Our favorite little adfarmer takes aim at Linden Lab auction Sims

I think you missed the one that is probably the most common. I think most people do it as a sign of surrender. With the number of Ad farmers and the number of people buying out those 16m ad farms they probably figure why should they stand their ground when so many others are going to pay in to the ad farmers. I can't say I blame them at all. Until there's a unified and organized plan to fight the ad farmers then a few people standing their ground here and there is really fruitless.

I think I have to agree with Colette here. Perhaps her choice of words isn't very kind, but ultimately, that's what it boils down to.

guess this is a reasonable point.

They figure no ones going to do anything about it.

They know if they pay the adfarmer off, the adfarmer will continue to open up ad farms.

But maybe they are more *desperate* than selfish.


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Not sure thats better either.

I choose Sneezy.

sneezy is a lot worse.


Ill take stupid, ignorant AND selfish over DISEASED.

Actually, I was incorrect. The Ad Zoo (proper) takes monetary donations at the main location, but no one else I know of who has set up a Zoo (including myself) does.



I do understand where you are coming from, I only question the veracity of your estimation that your business would have "become ruined" (as in totally, as you seem to imply) from trying. I mean, buying them out may have been what you thought was the only option at the time, maybe, but if you had another one, would you have at least given it a try if someone pledged to help you with it?



I'll take your word for it, but I don't know of many situations which it is true. If I can find a way to do it in my mall and make it successful, I think anyone else can, too.

Hey they can give in to Ad Farmers all they want -

But it is just going to perpetuate the problem.

That's the typical reason people give for not voting on election day. "My one vote amongst millions won't make any difference!" Maybe. Maybe not. However, if you don't vote, then it MOST DEFINITELY won't make ANY difference *AT ALL*. I can't say that I don't blame them. If more people who are disgruntled with the way things are stood up and made their voice heard, rather than just playing the defeated, letting the enemy just roll over them, then there'd be a lot less enemies around. The key point is that we are not alone. We CAN band together to make our voices heard. We CAN make a difference. We ARE making a difference.

Yes, I do vote in every election I can. I know that my one vote is of minuscule value in the greater scheme of things, but it DOES have value. In SL, my efforts, combined with others, are having an effect. Now people can go "oh, but it isn't getting rid of the worst ones!", but it is just a matter of time. Patience and perseverance are the keys to winning.

That said, I don't believe it is fruitless at all. It ALREADY is having success in a few short weeks after inception. One ad farmer down, one already selling some of his land at market value on request.

You are correct, but I also can't blame them for giving up out of frustration. The ugliness of SL is one of the reasons I almost left soon after arriving.

Until LL decides to step in and do something about it, whatever that may be, there may be small battles won but no real success will occur without a well organized concerted effort on the part of the residents. I've offered before to start a group to do this. Discuss possible ways to proceed. Distribute to the group names of advertisers with Ad Farms so they can be contacted? Regular contacts with LL via emails and office visits? Who knows? I truly believe that if a competitor comes along that simply offers people a choice other than ugly mainland or evil land barons, then SL will be a ghost town.

BTW, I realize there are many wonderful land barons in SL. Unfortunately we know many new people do not have an understanding of how "land ownership" works and they end up screaming here in the forums later.

In a system as large an complex as SL nothing will happen or change very fast. You have the right idea. Keep plugging away, keep making your point known whenever possible.

Remember this story and it will help anyone understand how to make changes gradually.

You can't boil a live frog. If you get a big pot of water boiling and throw the frog in he will immediately jump out of the pot. Get a big pot of cool water put the frog in and he will happily swim around as you slowly raise the heat. Before the frog knows what is happening the water is boiling and it is too late to jump out.

"CX"

why would you want to boil a live frog?

Cajuns eat anything. Really it is a metaphor for real life.

Think about smokers... first smoking sections, then restrictions for smoking on airplanes, then banning smoking on airplanes completely, then banning smoking in office buildings, then banning smoking in restuarants, then ban smoking in bars, then ban smoking around children, then ban smoking in your own private home and finally in the near future banning cigarettes completely.

I don't smoke but I have watched this take place slowly but surely for the last 20 years.

"CX"

Animal cruelty!! Boo!

Good thing my friend the frog is NPOF and can't read the forums.

If it's an ad-farmer, you would.

More seriously, folks, a change like this in a "society" like SL is going to take place one mind at a time. You take responsibility for your own mind, whoever you are, and that's a help. Pass it on...

In California this year a law goes into effect that makes it illegal to smoke in a car if there is a child riding in it. I'm about as anti smoking as I thought it gets but apparently I was wrong.

Banning death sticks entirely will never happen as long as money talks on Capitol Hill.

Funny, smoking is the thing I hate most in RL just as ad farms are in SL. Glad we could put all my pet peeves in one thread. Can tier fees and lag be added too?

I use to think you were right Ray until smoking bans occurred where I lived in North Carolina. Right smack dab in the middle of the Tobacco industry. After it occurred the Tobacco Industry had a major campaign to get a special election held to repeal the ban. People were so outraged by this, not only did they come out in droves the second time, but upholding the smoking ban won by a major landslide.

Sometimes enough of the little guys can speak up if they get their act together. We just need to get our act together against the ad farmers.

I hate when I've just paid my tier and still get lag, even after paying VAT on my Lolita Gorean Furry Vampire Camping Casino.


I think that covers everything but adfarms.

Ad cutter zoo huh? hmm. . .

I'm gonna make a Mr Potatohead with cotton in his ears. Riding a bus/train thingy. Maybe carrying a sign that says something liike "You all know where you can go"

Well I would pay off out of selfish desperation, to save the land that I pay tier on. This is a very different thing than "stupid," and yes, by coincidence it's much better. (If by "better," you mean "not insulting."

I have a neighbor whose property happens to butt up against one of my hotels within about 1 meter of the rooms. She's a good friend, and I'm fortunate that she's told me she would offer the property to me if she ever had to leave. But if she didn't hold to her word, and I woke up one morning to an adfarm, yes the business would become ruined over night.

And yes, I would explore every option and only buy out the ad farm as a last resort, with full realization that it's making this gargantuan problem a little worse every time someone does it.

I've got no beef with Furries.

By better I mean is being desperate better than being ignorant, selfish or stupid.


The insulting part is a bit irrelevant - since everyone does things that are stupid, Everyone does things out of ignorance, and everyone is selfish at times.

Why does saying people are stupid for paying off adfarmers get me grief but someone describing boiling live frogs is cool.

Or is it okay as long as you don't call the frog stupid?

banning smoking will never work in entirety, Tobacco is a simple plant to grow. Much like you could never ban marijuana in its entirety.

People no longer wishing to smoke is the only real future for "ending smoking"