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Marianne McCann
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01-24-2008 11:11
From: Katie Singh
You know. You're right.

I've been playing an SL child for a little over a year now and honestly, this stuff is just gone. And good riddances! I remember a year ago wanting to take a nice bubble bath after going to most of the kids malls. You'd just see stuff that was. Well. Ick. And explore by searching for "kids" or "child"? That was a edumacation. 0.o I just never run into any of this stuff anymore. The ban worked and it's gone. Yay!

Now we kids can be kids!



/me remembers some of the things that came up while searching for kid stuff a year ago, and shudders.

True, Katie!

Mari
P.S.: My sis is gonna be in the came cabin as you at camp!)
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01-24-2008 11:22
Sorry didn't read the whole thread. Every time I've seen the title, it makes me think it's a message to child Avs

Attention Children of Second Life - You are directed to report to Train Platform 9 for relocation to City 17. Please be advised that ignoring this directive will result in your immediate incarceration in the Citadel...

Little HL2 reference there.

Didn't we do this to Japanese Americans in WWII. It was awful. We really should round up child Avs and make them report somewhere. Just leave them be and let them play and be happy. Sometimes I envy them. I usually envy RL kids. They get to have all sorts of fun and eat stuff like corn dogs and mac and cheese. That's why I steal their toys and play with them myself.
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Marianne McCann
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01-24-2008 11:28
From: Trout Recreant
Attention Children of Second Life - You are directed to report to Train Platform 9 for relocation to City 17. Please be advised that ignoring this directive will result in your immediate incarceration in the Citadel...


Watch out for head crabs.

From: someone
Didn't we do this to Japanese Americans in WWII. It was awful. We really should round up child Avs and make them report somewhere. Just leave them be and let them play and be happy. Sometimes I envy them. I usually envy RL kids. They get to have all sorts of fun and eat stuff like corn dogs and mac and cheese. That's why I steal their toys and play with them myself.


About 80 or so will be reporting at camp this Saturday. Does that count?

Mari
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01-24-2008 11:34
From: Marianne McCann
Watch out for head crabs.



About 80 or so will be reporting at camp this Saturday. Does that count?

Mari


Glad someone got it. The shotgun is the tool of choice for headcrab removal, IMHO.

So, this camp...they pay you 3L/20 minutes to make knock-off Gucci bags and Nike's, right? I'm not so sure that's a camp, but as long as it keeps prices down at the KMart, I guess I can't complain.

Heh - kidding. Have fun at camp!
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01-24-2008 11:44
From: Trout Recreant
Glad someone got it. The shotgun is the tool of choice for headcrab removal, IMHO.


I had a friend who got totally into HL2. I got used to hearing all those sounds behind my head, and would sometimes watch as he played.

From: someone
So, this camp...they pay you 3L/20 minutes to make knock-off Gucci bags and Nike's, right? I'm not so sure that's a camp, but as long as it keeps prices down at the KMart, I guess I can't complain.


Well, they have these really neat chairs there... ;-)

From: someone
Heh - kidding. Have fun at camp!


Thankoo! It'll prob'ly be a blast!

Mari
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It aught to be a requirement to live a week at a time as a Kid...
01-24-2008 12:09
Well that settles it!

I thought about making my alt (once I activate him) a robot, an alien, an animal or even walking rock...but after reading this thread, I think I will make him a kid!

No one expects a kid to be a business owner in SL
No one expects a kid to be able to carry on an intellectual conversation
No one expects a kid to be mature thinking
Everyone does expect a kid to have virgin eyes and ears
Everyone seems to make it their duty to 'protect' kids from adult things
Many people discriminate against, and stereotype kids

Well let’s prove them wrong...let’s have one more kid stand up for kids rights
Hell, it aught to be a requirement to live a week at a time as a Kid, as a Furry, as a rock, or as any other avi type that gets regular discrimination...It may open everyone's eyes to what it is like, and put a stop to all the evil BS slung at kids and aliens.

I had a crappy childhood, and I’ll be DAMNED if I let anyone in SL cause my second one to repeat history...Graph may be a nice guy who takes a lot of crap, but his child alt will have a totally different personality if treated like a second class resident.
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01-24-2008 12:43
From: Graphicguru Gustav
.....
Many people discriminate against, and stereotype kids
.....
put a stop to all the evil BS slung at kids and aliens
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treated like a second class resident.
I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. Maybe I'm too much of a noobie. I've never experienced any of that.

Yeah, people like to joke, some are in denial and call me a midget, and early on I was getting some 'requests' (O_o).... But, really, being an SL kid for nearly 3 months has been a total joy. \(^_^)/ It's come to the point where I can't stand walking around in SL as a biggie for more than a few seconds. (>_<;)

There's nothing more or less wrong with being 4'0" as there is being 7'6" with boobies the size of beachballs... (^_^)y
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Colette Meiji
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01-24-2008 12:59
When did the main grid of SL become open officially to people under 18?

If it hasn't then people need to cool it with this guilty until proven innocent stuff.




And stop spying on your neighbors.


Wow, I kind of wonder who was raised with manners sometimes.
Har Fairweather
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01-24-2008 13:03
From: Graphicguru Gustav
Well that settles it!

I thought about making my alt (once I activate him) a robot, an alien, an animal or even walking rock...but after reading this thread, I think I will make him a kid!

No one expects a kid to be a business owner in SL
No one expects a kid to be able to carry on an intellectual conversation
No one expects a kid to be mature thinking
Everyone does expect a kid to have virgin eyes and ears
Everyone seems to make it their duty to 'protect' kids from adult things
Many people discriminate against, and stereotype kids

Well let’s prove them wrong...let’s have one more kid stand up for kids rights
Hell, it aught to be a requirement to live a week at a time as a Kid, as a Furry, as a rock, or as any other avi type that gets regular discrimination...It may open everyone's eyes to what it is like, and put a stop to all the evil BS slung at kids and aliens.

I had a crappy childhood, and I’ll be DAMNED if I let anyone in SL cause my second one to repeat history...Graph may be a nice guy who takes a lot of crap, but his child alt will have a totally different personality if treated like a second class resident.



Not to be a troublemaker, or anything, but you might consider getting your kid a product called HANDS OFF. Most of the time it should probably stay in inventory, but at need just equip it (it is unseen), and anyone who bumps you (technically, collides) gets bounced halfway across the sim. A Siamese cat who does backflips when he's in the mood and doesn't like collecting bootprints on himself told me about it.
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01-24-2008 14:16
From: Colette Meiji
When did the main grid of SL become open officially to people under 18?

If it hasn't then people need to cool it with this guilty until proven innocent stuff.

And stop spying on your neighbors.

Wow, I kind of wonder who was raised with manners sometimes.
QFT

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01-24-2008 14:20
From: Imnotgoing Sideways

There's nothing more or less wrong with being 4'0" as there is being 7'6" with boobies the size of beachballs... (^_^)


Volleyballs at the MOST. :p
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Swan Legend
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01-24-2008 14:40
From: Colette Meiji
When did the main grid of SL become open officially to people under 18?

If it hasn't then people need to cool it with this guilty until proven innocent stuff.




And stop spying on your neighbors.


Wow, I kind of wonder who was raised with manners sometimes.



OFT

p.s. some of the players who have kid avatars and are posting in this thread are not doing themselves any favors when they draw lines in the sand and say "hay look i cut off my genitals. they were icky! im one of the "good" kids. more like self righteous and cowardly that they cant own up to being an adult baby. Nothing wrong with it and nothing wrong with the fact that you are an adult behind your avatar. an adult with healthy sexuality. it disturbs me more the amount of time some adults spend on sl trying to drive away every sexual thought in their heads. but you dont see me getting in other peoples business. anyway just wanted certain people to know . . see right through you . . youre are hypocrites.
Marianne McCann
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01-24-2008 14:53
From: Graphicguru Gustav
Well that settles it!

I thought about making my alt (once I activate him) a robot, an alien, an animal or even walking rock...but after reading this thread, I think I will make him a kid!


Feel free to drop me a line if ya need any help findin' stuff :-)

(I can hear my daddy now, thinking I'm recruiting!)

From: someone
No one expects a kid to be a business owner in SL
No one expects a kid to be able to carry on an intellectual conversation
No one expects a kid to be mature thinking
Everyone does expect a kid to have virgin eyes and ears
Everyone seems to make it their duty to 'protect' kids from adult things
Many people discriminate against, and stereotype kids

Well let’s prove them wrong...let’s have one more kid stand up for kids rights
Hell, it aught to be a requirement to live a week at a time as a Kid, as a Furry, as a rock, or as any other avi type that gets regular discrimination...It may open everyone's eyes to what it is like, and put a stop to all the evil BS slung at kids and aliens.

I had a crappy childhood, and I’ll be DAMNED if I let anyone in SL cause my second one to repeat history...Graph may be a nice guy who takes a lot of crap, but his child alt will have a totally different personality if treated like a second class resident.


You'd be amazed (or maybe you wouldn't) to know how many business owners and great builders I know with kid alts or kid avatars. Or maybe you wouldn't, but there's a lot more than some might think. It would probably also surprise people if they knew how old most of the kids in SL really are behind the screen.

An ya, enjoy a great second childhood!

From: Colette Meiji
When did the main grid of SL become open officially to people under 18?

If it hasn't then people need to cool it with this guilty until proven innocent stuff.


/me points to the quote at the bottom of her sig line, and nods in agreement.

Mari
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Yumi Murakami
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01-24-2008 16:18
From: Colette Meiji
When did the main grid of SL become open officially to people under 18?

If it hasn't then people need to cool it with this guilty until proven innocent stuff.


To be fair, they did add the following statement to the TOS:

From: Linden Lab

Linden Lab cannot absolutely control whether minors gain access to the Service other than the Teen Area, and makes no representation that users outside the Teen Area are not minors.


So at that point, the Lindens did effectively announce that there could be people under 18 on the main grid.

On the other hand, I doubt that very many of them are using child avatars. A teenager wanting to act like a grown up, I understand; a teenager wanting to act like a grown up _who's pretending to be a teenager_ is.. psychedelic. :)
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01-24-2008 16:46
From: Har Fairweather
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Boy he gets around. (^_^) He's one of my favorites in SL. He's getting famous fast for being an all-around good kitty.
From: Swan Legend
...im one of the "good" kids. more like self righteous and cowardly that they cant own up to being an adult baby...
You haven't seen my outfits, have you? Ain't no good kid here. And I don't need no momma! (^_^)

Anyways... Is it bad to be disinterested? You know, that is a legitimate orientation as well. (^_^)
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01-24-2008 17:08
From: Imnotgoing Sideways
Boy he gets around. (^_^) He's one of my favorites in SL. He's getting famous fast for being an all-around good kitty.
You haven't seen my outfits, have you? Ain't no good kid here. And I don't need no momma! (^_^)

Anyways... Is it bad to be disinterested? You know, that is a legitimate orientation as well. (^_^)



its bizarre to me but i wouldnt make a judgement against you for how decide to express or represent yourself in sl or in rl. i was simply pointing out the hypocrisy of pg kid avatars who preach the loudest and cower to hysteria in order to protect themselves with no care to the adult baby community in sl. in my eyes they are traitors to their own kind and nothing less. its weak and cowardly. we could have all stood up together and we would have been strong together fighting for our rights to ageplay. instead we betray eachother. pathetic. its no wonder things are the way they are for ageplayers in sl when they are so incapable of standing up for own rights as adults and reiterate all the sensational garbage spewn by people who dont even understand.
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01-24-2008 17:27
*blinks* Swan, are you saying that the age players should have stood up for the sexual age players? Or are you implying that they should be more sexual themselves?

I don't understand your points at all. Or maybe I simply don't "get it." To me, it's just role play, where if I want to play a child, I shut down those parts of "me" that don't have anything to do with the role.. and in a child's role, I'd shut down the parts that are sexual. Most kids I know don't have sexual thoughts.. and if they did, I'd start looking at the parents. Oh, after twelve, I can see the hormones starting, but... in this world, it's just better to be asexual in that respect, unless said age player wants a banning.

I know a lot of age players DO stand up for their rights, but the sexual part wasn't a 'right' in their minds. Why should it be? Most of them are playing a kid to get away from the sex!
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01-24-2008 17:31
From: Swan Legend
...pg kid avatars who preach the loudest and cower to hysteria in order to protect themselves with no care to the adult baby community in sl...
I dunno, hypocrisy sounds harsh. (=_=)

I admit I'm a lolicon quite openly, my group tag that I wear is /cake/ and I never take it off. But I keep my activities in SL PG, even if they are borderline PG, out of respect for others that are deeply offended by my own personal tastes. As for the ageplay community... There isn't just one, and there isn't just one kind of SL kid. Some of us really do just want to rez a nice red rubber ball and kick it around. (^_^)y
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01-24-2008 17:33
From: Raudf Fox
*blinks* Swan, are you saying that the age players should have stood up for the sexual age players? Or are you implying that they should be more sexual themselves?

I don't understand your points at all. Or maybe I simply don't "get it." To me, it's just role play, where if I want to play a child, I shut down those parts of "me" that don't have anything to do with the role.. and in a child's role, I'd shut down the parts that are sexual. Most kids I know don't have sexual thoughts.. and if they did, I'd start looking at the parents. Oh, after twelve, I can see the hormones starting, but... in this world, it's just better to be asexual in that respect, unless said age player wants a banning.

I know a lot of age players DO stand up for their rights, but the sexual part wasn't a 'right' in their minds. Why should it be? Most of them are playing a kid to get away from the sex!


sl kids arent rl chidren they are grown adults who are either roleplaying or doing age regression. so you are wrong about that. and missing my point as usual
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01-24-2008 17:35
From: Imnotgoing Sideways
I dunno, hypocrisy sounds harsh. (=_=)

I admit I'm a lolicon quite openly, my group tag that I wear is /cake/ and I never take it off. But I keep my activities in SL PG, even if they are borderline PG, out of respect for others that are deeply offended by my own personal tastes. As for the ageplay community... There isn't just one, and there isn't just one kind of SL kid. Some of us really do just want to rez a nice red rubber ball and kick it around. (^_^)y



its sad you feel you hafta limit your expression in sl due to how others feel about it. i dont agree with that. i think as an adult you have a right to expression the same as anyone else.
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01-24-2008 17:42
From: Raudf Fox
*blinks* Swan, are you saying that the age players should have stood up for the sexual age players? Or are you implying that they should be more sexual themselves?

I don't understand your points at all. Or maybe I simply don't "get it." To me, it's just role play, where if I want to play a child, I shut down those parts of "me" that don't have anything to do with the role.. and in a child's role, I'd shut down the parts that are sexual. Most kids I know don't have sexual thoughts.. and if they did, I'd start looking at the parents. Oh, after twelve, I can see the hormones starting, but... in this world, it's just better to be asexual in that respect, unless said age player wants a banning.

I know a lot of age players DO stand up for their rights, but the sexual part wasn't a 'right' in their minds. Why should it be? Most of them are playing a kid to get away from the sex!



some kids dont play children to "get away from sex" they play children for the same reasons you do or they are compelled to participate in age regression because of the freedom the platform provides. since we are all adults and assuming SOME of us are healthy adults who are not conflicted about their sexuality the fact that they are adult babies would not cancel out their sexuality. That you assume it would might be cause for alarm but unlike the preachy kids, i prefer to let adults be how they choose without pushing my morality onto them.
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01-24-2008 17:45
From: Swan Legend
sl kids arent rl chidren they are grown adults who are either roleplaying or doing age regression. so you are wrong about that. and missing my point as usual



Then I'm very glad that I am missing your point. I'll just offer the word, "Duh" and go on from there. They know they are real adults only playing kids, if they didn't they'd need more help than SL would ever provide.
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01-24-2008 17:52
From: Raudf Fox
Then I'm very glad that I am missing your point. I'll just offer the word, "Duh" and go on from there. They know they are real adults only playing kids, if they didn't they'd need more help than SL would ever provide.


well if you understand that sl kid avatars are not real children then why did you say this?

From: Raudf Fox
Most kids I know don't have sexual thoughts.. and if they did, I'd start looking at the parents.



hrm?
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01-24-2008 18:16
From: Swan Legend
well if you understand that sl kid avatars are not real children then why did you say this?




hrm?



Easily enough. They are basing the characters on RL kids. RL kids do NOT think this way, so they can't/won't either. How do I know how an RL child thinks? I'm a parent RL side and if one of my six year old child's friends started all the sexual dirty talking, I'd be having a chat with their parents and/or DHS. And if it's my child... well, a long chat followed by a very long grounding.

They are role playing a part, just like your favorite actor/actress would be. They have studied this role as thoroughly as the actors/actresses, in order to keep it 'realistic.' I'm also sure that once the user is done, they simply shut off the child-character and go back to being RL adults.

Now I'll flip the coin, why should SL kids behave like SL/RL adults, when Linden Labs has decreed that doing such is a bannable offense? Lets simply set aside the fact that in RL many countries forbid even the depiction of child sex.
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01-24-2008 18:20
From: Swan Legend
sl kids arent rl chidren they are grown adults who are either roleplaying or doing age regression. so you are wrong about that. and missing my point as usual

"Age regression"? You say that like it's a bad thing.
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