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Ann Launay
Neko-licious™
Join date: 8 Aug 2006
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01-19-2008 15:00
That is why linden lab have a teen grid for kids and an adult grid for adults the way it should be. Except the child avs on the adult grid are controlled by ADULTS. Teens are very unlikely to want to run a young av...they're at the stage in their lives where they want to be seen as 'grown up.' _____________________
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Laurynce Book
Registered User
Join date: 6 May 2006
Posts: 14
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01-19-2008 15:02
I have been a resident for a year all im saying is that if say the press or any other body sees child avi's then they are not going to say "wow second life is great you can be a kid and play on swings n stuff" now are they it will end up being bad press witch means that less people will join sl because they will be put off. That is why linden lab have a teen grid for kids and an adult grid for adults the way it should be. Please note im not trying to upset anyone im just voicing my opinion. Cheers joddy Ya Know I sort of see your point but I have always hated the "punish the whole class" point of view. Bad press, "spin" or whatever is going to happen regardless. The idea that you need to ban child avies period in order to protect the image of SL is kinda extreme. I mean once again you would stop where? Ban Gor? Ban BDSM? Ban Furries? Ban Nekos? Ban tiny robotic vegetables? (and i dont believe you used the word "ban" but it is implied) Even before I was a SL parent, I wouldn't have been behind the idea of getting rid of child avies. Why? Because yes I am an adult and i know that other adults like to RP things that I may not be interested in RP'ing. I find myself talking to Neko's and seeing the purring and mewing and licking. Sometimes I stop and look and think this person is rubbing their "paws" behind their ears while I talk to them. For a second I feel like I am in Bizarroland. At those times I am seeing the RL person first, behaving as a "cat" person. But most times I see a Neko avi and hopefully i remember there is a rl person behind the Neko avi. That is the difference for me at least. |
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joddy Jacobus
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Join date: 27 Feb 2007
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Hmmm
01-19-2008 15:03
Except the child avs on the adult grid are controlled by ADULTS. Teens are very unlikely to want to run a young av...they're at the stage in their lives where they want to be seen as 'grown up.' I think this is going to be a long thread so im gonna quit while im ahead later lol |
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joddy Jacobus
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Join date: 27 Feb 2007
Posts: 18
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Yeh
01-19-2008 15:09
Ya Know I sort of see your point but I have always hated the "punish the whole class" point of view. Bad press, "spin" or whatever is going to happen regardless. The idea that you need to ban child avies period in order to protect the image of SL is kinda extreme. I mean once again you would stop where? Ban Gor? Ban BDSM? Ban Furries? Ban Nekos? Ban tiny robotic vegetables? (and i dont believe you used the word "ban" but it is implied) Even before I was a SL parent, I wouldn't have been behind the idea of getting rid of child avies. Why? Because yes I am an adult and i know that other adults like to RP things that I may not be interested in RP'ing. I find myself talking to Neko's and seeing the purring and mewing and licking. Sometimes I stop and look and think this person is rubbing their "paws" behind their ears while I talk to them. For a second I feel like I am in Bizarroland. At those times I am seeing the RL person first, behaving as a "cat" person. But most times I see a Neko avi and hopefully i remember there is a rl person behind the Neko avi. That is the difference for me at least. Im relating to what you have said and yes i have people in my friends list that are furry etc im just trying to get around the phsycie of an adult playing as a child. This is my last say lol i think. |
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Max Herzog
Cloudy
Join date: 9 Jul 2006
Posts: 1,073
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01-19-2008 15:12
Im relating to what you have said and yes i have people in my friends list that are furry etc im just trying to get around the phsycie of an adult playing as a child. This is my last say lol i think. child, cat, dragon, man, woman, alien etc all the same once you log in. You can be who or what you want to be, and that's the beauty of it. _____________________
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Laurynce Book
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Join date: 6 May 2006
Posts: 14
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01-19-2008 15:25
If a child avatar is on the adult grid then i think they should be removed,simpley because of all the bad press SL has been getting in the UK. Yes its a virtual world but i dont see why if at all a grown person needs to be a child and for that matter people adopting child avis on sl now that to me is very strange and hard to comprehend. Most of them are probably just trying to get your lindens well get a job thats what i say. Last I read, It was still your world, your imagination. So it isnt about needing to be a child avie but wanting to be for whatever reasons they choose. And from your other post I believe you are not trying to be argumentive but there are so many ways to scam someone in sl. Being an sl kids cant be at the top of the list. Join a sl family for lindens? ummm I dont give my sl kids Lindens. I think in a year I have given my sl son a whopping 15-25L in allowance. And that is just because I saw the cute little piggy bank.  I do buy things from Chelsea's Place for the girls now and then but there is no obligation to do so. My sl kids are creators in SL and could buy or make whatever they wanted. I turned down an offer of a new item created by one of my kids the other day. She often gives me things but SL is a rl source of income for her and I quietly told her I didnt want her ever thinking she had to give me things for my Love. (yes i said love, you do love some of your close friends right? ) And I really like the item and would purchase it if I could get away with her not noticing it. lol I have spoken to a few SL families similar to mine and I have never gotten any implication if was about getting lindens. My kids want...... some of my time, attention and hugs. at the least *sighs* I am coerced to send an IM: Hi Son or daughter, how are ya? Love you /me sends you daddy bear hugs I know. I know. They are quite the little scammers. |
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Har Fairweather
Registered User
Join date: 24 Jan 2007
Posts: 2,320
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01-19-2008 15:32
Frankly, the ones whose mental state I wonder about are the ones who, ten months into this endless back-and-forth about child avatars, look at a child avie in an innocent situation - not soliciting, no ball-gag, nowhere near a cock'n'coochie store or a sex club - and immediately think it is someone who wants to fuck. Gotta wonder who's weird and who isn't.
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Qie Niangao
Coin-operated
Join date: 24 May 2006
Posts: 7,138
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01-19-2008 15:32
im just trying to get around the phsycie of an adult playing as a child.  ) But it wasn't the filthy lucre that won me over, it was the fact that all those child AVs were just having a heck of a lot more *fun* than I was. And it really wasn't until much later that I began to appreciate that for some of them, it went much deeper. And still later to realize that "ageplay profiling" could make their SecondLife a living hell.If the press gets it wrong--and if residents who haven't had the right experiences don't know what to make of it--we shouldn't be surprised. It's only if they don't try to understand it that it becomes their fault. We shouldn't expect understanding to be quick or easy; that makes it all the more valuable. _____________________
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joddy Jacobus
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Join date: 27 Feb 2007
Posts: 18
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Good point
01-19-2008 15:37
If a child avatar is on the adult grid then i think they should be removed,simpley because of all the bad press SL has been getting in the UK. Yes its a virtual world but i dont see why if at all a grown person needs to be a child and for that matter people adopting child avis on sl now that to me is very strange and hard to comprehend. Most of them are probably just trying to get your lindens well get a job thats what i say. Last I read, It was still your world, your imagination. So it isnt about needing to be a child avie but wanting to be for whatever reasons they choose. And from your other post I believe you are not trying to be argumentive but there are so many ways to scam someone in sl. Being an sl kids cant be at the top of the list. Join a sl family for lindens? ummm I dont give my sl kids Lindens. I think in a year I have given my sl son a whopping 15-25L in allowance. And that is just because I saw the cute little piggy bank. I do buy things from Chelsea's Place for the girls now and then but there is no obligation to do so. My sl kids are creators in SL and could buy or make whatever they wanted. I turned down an offer of a new item created by one of my kids the other day. She often gives me things but SL is a rl source of income for her and I quietly told her I didnt want her ever thinking she had to give me things for my Love. (yes i said love, you do love some of your close friends right? ) And I really like the item and would purchase it if I could get away with her not noticing it. lol I have spoken to a few SL families similar to mine and I have never gotten any implication if was about getting lindens. Good point and fair play to you but if someone that was very creative and inteligent suddenly wanted me to be thier dad in a virtual family i would think that was quite bizzare. But that isnt the point of the disscusion and i didnt say that all of them were just out for a scam i think the whole thread is related to fans of michael jackson. |
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joddy Jacobus
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Join date: 27 Feb 2007
Posts: 18
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Well done all
01-19-2008 15:41
Good point and fair play to you but if someone that was very creative and inteligent suddenly wanted me to be thier dad in a virtual family i would think that was quite bizzare.
But that isnt the point of the disscusion and i didnt say that all of them were just out for a scam i think the whole thread is related to fans of michael jackson. Im going to try and keep an open mind on this issue. By the way any nice ladies reading this thread im in world rofl. |
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Mickey McLuhan
She of the SwissArmy Tail
Join date: 22 Aug 2005
Posts: 1,032
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01-19-2008 15:48
I don't understand it either...
Then I remember that their motivations are none of my business, any more than my motivation for being a 'toony bushbaby with an insanely long tail that changes into whatever shape I want it to is anyone else's business. _____________________
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joddy Jacobus
Registered User
Join date: 27 Feb 2007
Posts: 18
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Pleased to see your views
01-19-2008 15:52
Well i have taken on board everyones views on the matter and i think that you will agree that im right so take care and may see you in another disscusion sometime.
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Penny Rau
Registered User
Join date: 26 Feb 2007
Posts: 71
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01-19-2008 16:05
When I see a child avi, I don't assume they are there for ageplay sex, I do assume that they are expressing their individuality and personality. My avi is a hot sexy chick with long pretty hair and a perfect body, never a hair out of place, never a pimple or a wrinkle, and any outfit I want fits me because they are 1 size fits all... This is not who I am in RL, this is who I'd like to be in SL.. So as said in an earlier post, it's an adult grid, therefore we can all be adults about who eachother wants to be...
but in certain circumstances, it looks really bad...especially the fact that she was in a 12 year old group and a nudist group. You can say all day long that nudists aren't sexual, but that's so not true, they're mostly swingers anyway...lol go to any nudist party, and when the sun goes down, they aren't sitting around on towels in front of a campfire, they're in tents getting it on...lol If you are a child avatar, please do us a favor and don't join groups that may lead others to believe you are truly a child in RL. |
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Espectro Slade
Registered User
Join date: 19 Apr 2007
Posts: 8
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01-19-2008 16:36
"If a child avatar is on the adult grid then i think they should be removed,simpley because of all the bad press SL has been getting in the UK"
Think you should remove yourself, intolerance is against TOS |
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
Join date: 17 Nov 2007
Posts: 4,694
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01-19-2008 16:58
Sorry for the derail...
I'm yet to meet an anti-childAV person in world yet. If people are creeping out over me, they're sure quiet about it. I put the best reaction I ever heard into my signature. (=_=)q For those of you here on the forum that are so troubled by us... Please stop by in world and chat for a while. Find out what we're really like. (^_^) I, for one, may still be very creepy *poses in a trampy-revealing outfit* but really I just want to be playful, to join dance parties, and most of all chat with other fun people. Just be careful. My presence often drops the maturity level through the floor. And I'm prone to gory details of an evil persuasion. (^_^)y _____________________
Somewhere in this world; there is someone having some good clean fun doing the one thing you hate the most. (^_^)y
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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 7,145
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01-19-2008 17:07
There are so many perverts in the world and SL is a place that probaby 40% of people are using for cyber sexual activity. 18% The number as reported in New World Notes a couple months back. Now, an adult that chooses to look like a child sometimes is a totally different thing, but do you really think an adult would join a group for under 12 year olds? Yes. I'm going to be going to a camp in Second Life for 4-12 year olds. Role play age. i think the whole thread is related to fans of michael jackson. As the risk of casting my own stones, I s'pect yer tinking about the issue too me. :-/ (I never have been a fan of MJ neither, so nyaaah!) Mari (Ya go away for a few hours an suddenly there two more pages on dis thread!) _____________________
 "There's nothing objectionable nor illegal in having a child-like avatar in itself and we must assume innocence until proof of the contrary." - Lewis PR Linden "If you find children offensive, you're gonna have trouble in this world " - Prospero Linden |
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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 7,145
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01-19-2008 17:14
Lesse, why be a kid. Without reposting Marianne's essay. (Do you still have your photo books from your exhibit for sale in the grid?) In my store in Livingtree, within the big school-lookin' building. If a child avatar is on the adult grid then i think they should be removed,simpley because of all the bad press SL has been getting in the UK. Well, if SL did everything based on sensationalistic new reports, they'd have closed down ages ago. Most of them are probably just trying to get your lindens well get a job thats what i say. I have several, thankoo. Im a hostess at a mall. I write for the M2. I have my own store(s). I also build-for-hire. I tink I'm set there. Just thought that i would also add that when they say being a kid avi is fun then you have got issues. Thankoo for your psychiatric evauation. We all do SL in our own way. Some people are into Gor, but it's not my thing, ya know? Each to their own, as long as the horses ain't skered. Mari _____________________
"There's nothing objectionable nor illegal in having a child-like avatar in itself and we must assume innocence until proof of the contrary." - Lewis PR Linden "If you find children offensive, you're gonna have trouble in this world " - Prospero Linden |
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Laura Lobo
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Join date: 8 Sep 2006
Posts: 79
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01-19-2008 17:16
18% The number as reported in New World Notes a couple months back. That is complete BS. I have no idea how they came up with that number. That means out of the 55,000 currently online only 9,900 are doing something sex related? NOT. Just explore SL and cruise the sex related spots and you will easily blow that number out of the water. |
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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 7,145
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01-19-2008 17:23
My kids want...... some of my time, attention and hugs. at the least *sighs* I am coerced to send an IM: Hi Son or daughter, how are ya? Love you /me sends you daddy bear hugs I know. I know. They are quite the little scammers. /me grins Ya, we're alllllways tryin to sneaky a little more time from ya before we hafta go ni ni. Or the chance to jump on the bed. We're jes terrible! Mari (Love ya, daddy!) _____________________
"There's nothing objectionable nor illegal in having a child-like avatar in itself and we must assume innocence until proof of the contrary." - Lewis PR Linden "If you find children offensive, you're gonna have trouble in this world " - Prospero Linden |
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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 7,145
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01-19-2008 17:27
That is complete BS. I have no idea how they came up with that number. That means out of the 55,000 currently online only 9,900 are doing something sex related? NOT. Just explore SL and cruise the sex related spots and you will easily blow that number out of the water. Sorry. I misspoke. 18% was only the number of mature parcels. Nevertheless, the numbers are a lot smaller than the press might like you to think. Here's the study: http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2007/11/undersexed-over.html#more Mari _____________________
"There's nothing objectionable nor illegal in having a child-like avatar in itself and we must assume innocence until proof of the contrary." - Lewis PR Linden "If you find children offensive, you're gonna have trouble in this world " - Prospero Linden |
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Laurynce Book
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Join date: 6 May 2006
Posts: 14
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01-19-2008 17:35
/me grins Ya, we're alllllways tryin to sneaky a little more time from ya before we hafta go ni ni. Or the chance to jump on the bed. We're jes terrible! Mari (Love ya, daddy!) Let's try NOT to be broadly offensive Princess. (love ya in a non-broadly offensive way) |
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Strauss Ulderport
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Join date: 3 Dec 2007
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01-19-2008 17:45
I wont address the rest of your post because youre out of your mind. LMAO!! best... post... ever... _____________________
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Rihanna Laasonen
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Join date: 22 Nov 2006
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01-19-2008 18:07
And you absolutely should! If you're running an adults-only venue, then certainly no one in a child avatar should be there, and you are absolutely correct to ban them from coming there as a child and trying to have sex. I am assuming, of course, that they are actually trying to get into the areas that have the adult poseballs, and not just walking down the road, perhaps unaware of what is going on inside. But if they know what goes on in there, and are actively trying to go in with a child avvie? By all means, ban them and abuse report them too. It's Players like that who screw it up for the innocent "kids". I'm not sure it's even as simple as that, although I certainly wish it were. I think we really need to assume innocence unless it's absolutely unequivocal otherwise. For instance -- one of my neighbors has set up a free sex area in the park next to my home. I -- and my child alt -- were there before the sex area was. But suddenly, because of the large central location, my child av effectively can't go anywhere outdoors in the sim without being suspect. Now, fortunately, his park is subtly designed; there's nothing graphically adult out where you can see it, just teleport signs to the hidden spots and adult keywords in the parcel description. If a child av showed up in those hidden spots, it really would be unequivocal and ARable. But this owner's a nice guy. He could just as easily have been a jerk and left x-rated material in full view all over the place. Given how lag affects the speed and direction of movement (and my computer's way laggy), it'll be almost impossible to avoid accidentally straying into the parcel sooner or later. So if he had been a jerk and left x-rated stuff out all over the place, it would be all too easy for the child av to end up there unintentionally -- even though it might look to other people like she was actively trying to go there. Frankly, I'm hesitating at this point to bring her out at ground level even on my own land, just because of the random folk who are going to wander out of his park and into mine without realizing the difference. (There's goes my plan for a tree swing.) |
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Alyx Sands
Mental Mentor Linguist
Join date: 17 Feb 2007
Posts: 2,432
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01-19-2008 18:21
Let's try NOT to be broadly offensive Princess. (love ya in a non-broadly offensive way)Hey, so you're Mari's dad? Nice meeting you, sir! Your daughter is the coolest kid I ever met! _____________________
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Laurynce Book
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Join date: 6 May 2006
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01-19-2008 18:25
Hey, so you're Mari's dad? Nice meeting you, sir! Your daughter is the coolest kid I ever met! Yep, I confess I am her dad. Most people say she takes after her mom though. She can be pretty cool. *also quite a geek* Nice to meet ya Alyx. |