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Alyx Sands
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01-18-2008 15:47
I also have a child-sized avi, alongside my adult one, my furry one, my Tiny cat one and my normal-sized cat one....and my profile says I have a partner....

*gets nervous*
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Oni Horan
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01-18-2008 15:48
From: Brenda Connolly
If the post you quoted wasn't meant to be sarcastic, I agree with you. And it's frightening if someone did mean that seriously.


was he kidding or not? we will probably never know, id suggest we report him somewhere, just in case. better safe then sorry.
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01-18-2008 16:12
From: Oni Horan
was he kidding or not? we will probably never know, id suggest we report him somewhere, just in case. better safe then sorry.

I can't report anybody right now. All my brown shirts are in the laundry.
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01-18-2008 16:14
You know, a lot of adults are abused in RL too, we should stop playing adults in SL.










:rolleyes:
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01-18-2008 16:14
From: Brenda Connolly
I can't report anybody right now. All my brown shirts are in the laundry.


Ah, out of uniform.

You realize that could be "Broadly Ofensive" and must be reported immediately lest I be reported for not reporting it.
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Swan Legend
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01-18-2008 16:21
From: someone

Sadly because of what goes on in RL with children being sexually abused I feel we should not have child like avatars in SL. Of course I recall last year the TV reports of sexual abuse in SL by UK Sky News and the subsequent closure by Linden of the area due to sex with child like avatars by avatars who in RL were what was said to be perverts.


Linden Lab did not close down that parcel in question. The land owner closed it due to harrassment. There is a huge difference. I wont address the rest of your post because youre out of your mind. But, i wanted to take a moment to clarify that bit.
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01-18-2008 16:23
From: Swan Legend
Linden Lab did not close down that parcel in question. The land owner closed it due to harrassment. There is a huge difference. I wont address the rest of your post because youre out of your mind. But, i wanted to take a moment to clarify that bit.

Using the logic of the post you quoted, we should do away with Furries. I watch "Animal Cops" and they way those animals are abused is just horrible.
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Swan Legend
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01-18-2008 16:25
From: Marianne McCann
It is a bit more, but not *much* more.

This was specifically due to the Wonderland scandal, and refers to, for example, having a sexgen bed that looks like a crib and bondage equipment in a nursery -- with a child avatar in proximity of the above in such a way that a *reasonable person* might presume such activities.

This would not include a child avatar with a couple groups walking through a store as illustrated above.

Mari
(who also feels the "proxmity" rule is a huuuge gray area that you can drive a truck though)



There wasnt any sexually suggestive material at the Wonderland sim when it closed down. And the landowner closed it not Linden Lab, due to harrassment againt adult baby community. Wonderland was infact a pg parcel with no nudity, sex or xcite attachments or weapons allowed.
Swan Legend
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01-18-2008 16:27
From: Brenda Connolly
Using the logic of the post you quoted, we should do away with Furries. I watch "Animal Cops" and they way those animals are abused is just horrible.



im sure furries are next or vampires, or entire bdsm community or anything that involves anything except vanilla missionary positions. Personally i would like to see dolcett see go but im not arrogant and obnoxious enough to push my limits and morality onto other adult human beings.
Ciaran Laval
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01-18-2008 16:32
People who can't see a child avatar without checking their profile and trying to see if they're in dodgy groups need to take a good, long, hard, look at themselves.
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01-18-2008 16:34
From: Ciaran Laval
People who can't see a child avatar without checking their profile and trying to see if they're in dodgy groups need to take a good, long, hard, look at themselves.

They probably still wouldn't see anything
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01-18-2008 16:39
From: Brenda Connolly
Using the logic of the post you quoted, we should do away with Furries. I watch "Animal Cops" and they way those animals are abused is just horrible.


I'm a neko, and am waiting to be reported for the crime of having a tail...


"They came first for the child avs,
and I didn't speak up because I don't have a child av.

Then they came for the Goreans,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Gorean.

Then they came for the furries,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a furry.

Then they came for the nekos,
and by that time no one was left to speak up."

(with apologies to Pastor Martin Niemöller)
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01-18-2008 17:05
From: Damien Walworth
I'm a neko, and am waiting to be reported for the crime of having a tail...


"They came first for the child avs,
and I didn't speak up because I don't have a child av.

Then they came for the Goreans,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Gorean.

Then they came for the furries,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a furry.

Then they came for the nekos,
and by that time no one was left to speak up."

(with apologies to Pastor Martin Niemöller)


You forgot the tiny robot vegetables.

I've got to stop reading this forum.
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Har Fairweather
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01-18-2008 17:57
And of course, since we all know the environment has been abused, we mustn't have any land, sea or sky (air) in SL either.
Marianne McCann
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01-18-2008 18:18
From: Bodhisatva Paperclip
You forgot the tiny robot vegetables.

I've got to stop reading this forum.


You know, I was with you until that very moment. Tiny Robot Vegetables are simply too offensive for Second Life.

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01-18-2008 19:44
In response to the thread title, child avatars should report to the attendance office, then to the toy dispensary.
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Susie Boffin
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01-18-2008 19:48
Are you just an idiot or trying out to be one? Report it to your local police dept. :rolleyes:
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01-18-2008 20:00
I suppose you could report it to your mother. :rolleyes:
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Caz Catteneo
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01-18-2008 20:35
Thank you for all the replies. After reading them all, I can now see there is no harm in child avis. I may even get one of my own.

I had seen reports on Sky News about child avatars being used for sex and put 2+2 together, as I expected all characters to be adults, having never come across them.

"People who can't see a child avatar without checking their profile and trying to see if they're in dodgy groups need to take a good, long, hard, look at themselves"

No, when you read about perverts using child avis, what do you expect? I am a parents and don't wnat people like that to be encouraged to see kids this way!
It's only a tiny part of child abuse but I hope if anyone does see anything they suspect is wrong that they do report it.
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01-18-2008 20:42
From: Caz Catteneo
Thank you for all the replies. After reading them all, I can now see there is no harm in child avis. I may even get one of my own.


If ya do, look me up. I can point ya in the right direction :-)

Mari
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Caz Catteneo
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01-18-2008 20:52
thankyou marianne.
After seeing the sky news report, it has given the game a bad name, for people who have never played it.
I genuinly though child avis were not allowed on the game, but I was wrong.

I would love to try being a child again and having a pony and cute clothes.

I hate pushy men on here, and would freak if a man appraoched me if I was a child at the time.
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01-18-2008 21:26
From: Caz Catteneo
...I hate pushy men on here, and would freak if a man appraoched me if I was a child at the time.
In some places, it will happen. (^_^) ... And it's oh-so-exploitable for a good laugh in the right crowd. (^_^)y
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01-18-2008 21:40
From: Caz Catteneo
Thank you for all the replies. After reading them all, I can now see there is no harm in child avis. I may even get one of my own.

I had seen reports on Sky News about child avatars being used for sex and put 2+2 together, as I expected all characters to be adults, having never come across them.

"People who can't see a child avatar without checking their profile and trying to see if they're in dodgy groups need to take a good, long, hard, look at themselves"

No, when you read about perverts using child avis, what do you expect? I am a parents and don't wnat people like that to be encouraged to see kids this way!
It's only a tiny part of child abuse but I hope if anyone does see anything they suspect is wrong that they do report it.


Gee, I took a long hard look at myself (again..I do that a lot) and just saw a parent. It comes with the territory to be protective.
Asherah Elytis
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Don't assume all child avatars are "bad"......
01-19-2008 01:49
From: Marianne McCann
It would be a standard abuse report, for age. If there was something to report.

Bear in mind, however, that simply because someone is wearing a child avatar does not necessarily mean that the player of the avatar is a child as well. Likewise, Linden Lab usually only acts on ARs against child avatars if you spot them acting in a broadly offensive manner -- those groups are likely not enough.

Of course, one need not report this at all, assuming that all you did was happen across another avatar who was not doing anything untoward.

See also my sig line, below.

Mari
(Who would have much more to say here... but it's past her bedtime. Ni ni!)


Remember, this is an ADULT game... Some ADULTS do not want to deal with the sexual content or the "relationship" issues in game and just want to have fun. So don't naturally assume because you see a child AV that there is a child behind the computer(after all, we are supposed to be over 18 in this grid). I do agree.. there are some people that mis use a child character in game...but make sure you have witnessed a child/adult act with such an avatar BEFORE you go ARing someone because of group listings. Under 12 girls?? could mean that this is a group for girl avatars that are playing age 12 or under(totally assuming it's an innocent group). I wish people would stop freaking out and naturally first assume that because they see a child avatar that they automatically participate in child/adult rp situations or sexual acts! I for one know SEVERAL child avatars that are VERY aggressively against such acts occurring and do AR any situations that are inappropriate for a child av.
So, before you jump to conclusions about any child avatar you see in game and AR them...make sure you are POSITIVE something had been done wrong.. walking in a store simply doesn't mean anything(unless it was a sex related store). but hmmm.... I do know one store that has CHILD animations such as swinging on a swing/tetter totter (all that are completely child oriented but they also have(in another section) adult animations so we can't just assume because a child av is there that's what they are there for ... be sure before you AR ANYONE!
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01-19-2008 02:50
Child Avatars shoud be IMMEDIATELY reported to Dateline NBC & Chris Hanson!!!

"Please. Have a seat. Did you KNOW this avatar was RP'd as underaged? What were you thinking?? We have the Chat & IM transcripts right here" :D
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