Ban the Noob !!

What a lot of bollix.

I am not a premium account holder, but I lease/rent land and have in the past spent a fair amount of money in SL, my spending sure as hell equates to more than $9.95 a month for an account (or however much it is).

You have NO more right to be on the grid than I do.

And yes, so true, today’s n00b is potentially tomorrow’s customer.

or investor

There's one of those born every minute.

You know, there's a difference between saying something like "Hey, I think one of the perks of Premium membership should be prioritized logins" and just coming in raving like a loon about it. People will still disagree with you, but they probably won't think you're an ass, and the people who DO agree will be more likely to support what you're saying, rather than distancing themselves from it.

and thats a bad thing?

Well I'm new & so are about 10 other friends with me on here. We all got premium accounts within the first week. None of us are the "campers" or bots that I see complaints about. And we all go out shopping almost every single day & buy everything from skins, hairstyles, clothes, house items, etc., etc. So we may be new but we're sure as hell paying our way on SL & I feel we deserve to be here as much as someone that's been around for years.

If you newb haters have shops or businesses please feel free to tell me about them so that I can spread the word NOT to bother you with our Lindens. There are plenty of stores & places for me to go to that like newbs.

funny how i didnt equate suckers to investors like your comment was implying. seems to me to be some bitterness from your own past failures.

premium from 2005 gets more than half back in stripen a month so really your 4 dollars and some change buys you around 1,000 lindens of bitch power.
plus by now should know how SL works if you were through all those wednsdays and glitches by now.

I have a couple of accounts and I sometimes get a "very" different response from shopkeepers when I use this one and when I use my newer "n00b/NPI" one.

Still don't understand why people would want to be on the grid when it's screwed up.

Logins were close due to grid issues and it wasn't the noobs fault. They just happen to be in world at the time the logins were closed. Heck, a good quarter of them probably went shopping and didn't receive their items. Another fifth probably built something and found it wouldn't 'take,' while another group might have tried rezzing something and had it fail.

These folks probably logged off to see if it was their end.. and guess what? They couldn't get back in either. There was no prioritizing, because NO ONE could get on! (Well, the Lindens probably could, but do they count as anyone? )


If you had said, "Gee, I'd like to see prioritizing for high load times, with Payment Info on File first," then many of us could agree. But blaming noobs for logins being closed? You'd be better off blaming traffic bots! At least then we'd get a good debate going...

Noobs, Newbs, Newbies... whatever you want to call 'em, we all had to start somewhere.
Some may go premium within a week or two, some may take a little while longer, and some may not bother at all and stay basic. One thing they'll all have in common, if they do decide to stay, is that one way or another they'll contribute in some form or another. Some will do that by spending their L$s in stores whilst others will create content for the former to buy.
Either way we need Noobs, Newbs, Newbies.

ROFL

Welcome.

Hey, hows about they just close Second Life off to new members and hand it over to you to run as a private club - where you can circle jerk each other, massage each others ego, and trot around lag free on your high horses.

You're so amazing. You deserve it.

NOT a newb hater and I have a store, so please do come by and visit

(my issue is not with new players, it is mainly with bots, and players who put NOTHING into the game AT ALL, as apposed to those of us (be we premium or basic account holders) that DO put a lot into the game, either via tier fees, premium fees, maintenance fees, buying lindens, or whatever.

It seems folks misunderstood my stand on who I feel should get priority over whom... (not premium over basic, or old over new) but paying over non paying... (be they paying via the above mentioned ways)

Can I just vouch for Rhaorth as being consistently nice on these forums...and having a nice shop too.

As for 'newbs' - /me like newbs. /me helps newbs. It's fun. (Well usually)

Can't blame anyone else for joining a game we all enjoy right? Even the bots...that's just people using what exists to their own advantage, it can be solved if LL cares to, if not, I ignore it and do my own thing.

shucks... thanks hon


and I suppose you have a point about the bots, and you are right, if LL cared to solve it they could...
most of the time I ignore it, just been a bit of a frustrating weekend with SL and all the issues

I was trying to point out that making a simple statement in the forums at times can be misconstrued.... I no longer build and buy very little, however Im helping new people every day and I consider that giving back a lot.... so there is really no way LL could determine who contributes or doesnt. But making a statement with limitations such as what is contributing and what isnt cannot be controled or measured. So there will never be logins determined by what one contributes

not saying there ever will be

but I was speaking strictly from a monetary point of view, after all it is the money coming into Linden Labs that keeps SL going is it not? (I was not speaking on a "who contributes more and how do they contribute... again I repeat to avoid confusion, I am speaking strictly on a monetary point of view)


IF everyone just stopped paying, went strictly free, only picked up freebies, owned no land, rented no land, and bought no lindens, then SL would cease to exist

so in a technical side of it, it is those who pay in that keep it going

I am not saying helping folks is a bad thing, I help people all the time... I was just putting out a thought, which did not paint with a broad brush, and was a narrow point of view (which is not to be confused with narrow mindedness)

after all, we all know nothing will be done, but sometimes to keep sanity it helps to blow off a little steam

granted

This was me (and technically IS me, I am now premium but it was paid for ith oney earnt in sl). I have never put a single dollar of RL money into SL. Not once. I am a student and can find better thingsto spend $10, like food for 3 or 4 days. However I run a store, i earn lindens, hell I even take lindens out of SL.

I know people who are like me but go around in SL with freebies and no jobs etc.

Those people contribute to SL as much as those who put money in.

Everyone in SL is vluable regardless of the amount of money we do or dont pour into this game or how we pour it in. SL is a community, it is about the people not the money.

I am sadden to see that eve in acommunity where we all start off on the same foot we still create the haves and the havenots, we start our own little class systems

did you not read my last post? about the fact that I am not talking about who contributes to SL in other ways, and that I am speaking strictly from a monetary point of view

and yes SL mimics RL in the haves and have nots


but that was not what I was talking about... as I said I was talking about strictly the money side of things


I would love for SL to add priority log in to premium account holders... but doubt it will ever happen... would love to see a lot of stuff but doubt it would ever happen

Did you stop to think i was typing what I was while you wrote that??? opps guess not.

My point still stands that monetay contributions to any community is not everything. Yes it is needed, but honestly if all anyone did was put moneyinto this place than damn it would be bloody boring.

nuuuuuuuuuuuuu... nooblets are needed to pick up the high horse poop.

Jack still doesn't get his immense ignorance. Which is understandable on it's own.

Listen. let's say you are a newbie, just joined, and walk around on the first welcome centre like a chunky ugly looking, funny walking idiot.

Then Jack wants to log in;

"You have been kicked off the grid, because someone who pays us more wants to log in. We don't give a shit about freeloaders, so die and try again later when jack thinks it's his bedtime."

You think with such a message people ever log back in? Always bashing those new to the game.

One good example are noobs who know nothing about the game, start clicking at random and then poof, gone clothes.
Newbie stands there naked, and the only thing that happens is the noob asking how to get his clothes back, and "Jack like people" just reporting them with abuse, but helping them? Nooo, their E-penises are way too large for helping others.

So your premium account should give you priority, and you don't care if someone who pays less Lindens should just be kicked off the grid because YOU have arrived.

I bet I pay more than Jack, a premium account is 9.95 per month. so?
I don't have a premium membership, but do lease a 1/3 SIM for about 10 dollars a week.

So Jack, how much Dollars are you spending each month? I'm at 40, plus the stuff on Lindens I buy, which was about 100 Dollars last month.

So if my monthly costs are a but higher than your, and we both want to log in, you say I have the right to go first.

So what is still left to discuss?

They should ban the traffic bots, they are in great numbers, and useless non-human players. And camping bots. Also they should be either real players, or be kicked once the grid is full.

being the time difference no I did not think you were typing when I wrote what I wrote

sorry my bad...

amd again I am not saying monetary contributions is everything, I am saying that THAT is what I was specifically talking about