How to tell someone they look like a noob?
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Bradley Bracken
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02-19-2008 17:05
From: Libby Russell Even though I do personally find it distracting, the two people I was thinking of when I decided to post are rather unhappy in SL, and I think their looks might be part of it.
Both move in the BDSM scene. One is a really sweet submissive who has been searching for a mistress for MONTHS, and the other is a promising dominant who keeps telling me he doesn't understand why submissives seem to shy away from him.
And I'm kinda like, "Well maybe it's because you look like you just escaped from Orientation Island! And why are you still holding that torch? We have local lighting here!"
I don't say that out loud, of course. That changes the question entirely. Yes, you should tell them. It's not being shallow, it's merely giving them your opinion why they are not finding success having fun in SL. If the guy is cute send him my way. We'll do Queer Eye for the Straight Av.
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Alyx Sands
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02-19-2008 17:05
From: Dekka Raymaker so what would you say about that "hey I like my cock a little bit more flacid"? I might have to file that for further use...  Most real noobs with wooden appendages, though, didn't take kindly to my reminding them of that thing hanging...er...standing out of their pants.
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Nika Talaj
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02-19-2008 17:06
From: ArchTx Edo Yep!! That would be my approach....
Dude / Girl ... You look like a NOOBy, LOL. We need to get you some decent skin/hair/cloths to show off how sophisticated/smart/desireable you really are!! LOL
We? /me desperately looks thru her inventory for noob stuff to put on when she visits ArchTx's store to get vicious swimming beasties
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Nika Talaj
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Join date: 2 Jan 2007
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02-19-2008 17:19
From: Libby Russell And I'm kinda like, "Well maybe it's because you look like you just escaped from Orientation Island! And why are you still holding that torch? We have local lighting here!" Hahaha! Well, it sounds like you have a good enough sense of humor to handle this lightly on your own  And I agree, if their looks are kinda wrecking their SL then maybe suggest a makeover. I showed up once at a popular BDSM venue dressed in a business suit just to see what would happen ... nothing, if anyone's curious ... but I did get involved in a great talk with a nearby noobish master guy where we critiqued what EVERYONE was wearing. It helped him think thru what he wanted his look to be, and I gave him a few store recormmendations. I pointed out the difference between how skins look (he hadn't noticed) and even put on a bathing suit and changed thru a few for him. He sent me a pic of himself a week afterwards, vast improvement! So maybe you could do your friends a favor by people-watching with them in some place where they usually hang out.
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Tiana Whitfield
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02-19-2008 17:25
From: Libby Russell
And I'm kinda like, "Well maybe it's because you look like you just escaped from Orientation Island! And why are you still holding that torch? We have local lighting here!"
I don't say that out loud, of course.
ROFL!! Thats cute!
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Trout Recreant
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02-19-2008 17:45
From: Bradley Bracken That changes the question entirely.
Yes, you should tell them. It's not being shallow, it's merely giving them your opinion why they are not finding success having fun in SL.
If the guy is cute send him my way. We'll do Queer Eye for the Straight Av. Wait - sign me up for this. I'm not decked out in Orientation Island gear, but I'm worthless when it comes to dressing. OP - tell me they don't have the torch still and that was a joke. Actually, considering your later post, I would tell them because it's holding them back from what they want to do and they apparently haven't figured it out. If they are just doing their thing and enjoying themselves, then it doesn't matter how they look. The only times I really notice are when I'm sitting in my favorite chair at Hanson and someone shows up looking like they just escaped from OI. If I notice that, I'll strike up a conversation and if they really are new, try to help them out and give them a little direction. Other than that, I just don't really pay attention.
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Tiana Whitfield
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02-19-2008 17:46
From: Trout Recreant Wait - sign me up for this. I'm not decked out in Orientation Island gear, but I'm worthless when it comes to dressing.
Oooh...can I take you shopping? I lurve to shop!
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Oryx Tempel
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02-19-2008 17:47
"Escape From Orientation Island" was John Carpenter's most underrated film.
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Trout Recreant
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02-19-2008 17:53
From: Tiana Whitfield Oooh...can I take you shopping? I lurve to shop! Yes. Actually, we should make this a Cartel mission. Get a bunch of us worthless guys together and the cartel women and Bradley can deck us out. All the stupid guy's clothes out there look the same to me, with a few exceptions. After we get decked out, we can wash the girly scent off by drinking beer and racing stock cars, or IM'ing each other about which Cartel Shopping Guide was the hottest. Maybe we can bet on sports illegally.
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Tiana Whitfield
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02-19-2008 17:54
From: Trout Recreant Yes.
Actually, we should make this a Cartel mission. Get a bunch of us worthless guys together and the cartel women and Bradley can deck us out. All the stupid guy's clothes out there look the same to me, with a few exceptions.
After we get decked out, we can wash the girly scent off by drinking beer and racing stock cars, or IM'ing each other about which Cartel Shopping Guide was the hottest. Maybe we can bet on sports illegally. And you can do it all on a 16sqm piece of prime mainland!! Seriously I would so be up for this!! I love this stuff!
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Lowen Raymaker
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02-19-2008 18:04
and here I was thinking that caring how other people look in RL was shallow
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Trout Recreant
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02-19-2008 18:05
From: Tiana Whitfield And you can do it all on a 16sqm piece of prime mainland!!
Seriously I would so be up for this!! I love this stuff! I don't have my 16 anymore. After three hours of me playing Back in Black and other AC/DC classics on the bagpipes buck naked, the neighbors bought it for 50,000L.
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Tiana Whitfield
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02-19-2008 18:15
From: Trout Recreant I don't have my 16 anymore. After three hours of me playing Back in Black and other AC/DC classics on the bagpipes buck naked, the neighbors bought it for 50,000L. You have been doing the Bad boy boogie..hmmm Have a Drink On Me and keep a Stiff upper lip and we will find you a Mistress For Christmas. 
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Bradley Bracken
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02-19-2008 18:17
From: Trout Recreant Actually, we should make this a Cartel mission. Get a bunch of us worthless guys together and the cartel women and Bradley can deck us out. All the stupid guy's clothes out there look the same to me, with a few exceptions. /me ponders Trout in a tank top and assless chaps.
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Tiana Whitfield
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02-19-2008 18:18
From: Bradley Bracken /me ponders Trout in a tank top and assless chaps. Erm thats my outfit....
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Zed Kiergarten
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02-19-2008 18:26
From: Bradley Bracken You know what I said to him? Nothing. It's none of my business. Good post. Its nobody's business how you look in SL... as far as I know there are no requirements to buy a 4000L$ skin or waste 400L$ on a body shape that anyone can get for free. I say if they ask feel free to help, otherwise let em' be... If you think it might actually be affecting their fun in SL, tell them a story about how you were in the same boat and got a "make-over" that really helped you out. Even if its not true, its less tacky than saying "you look new, fix yourself.."
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Argos Hawks
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02-19-2008 18:38
I got my skin and a fresh suit from a friend that got sick of looking at me once. I wasn't offended when she offered to help. I knew what I looked like. I just didn't care. I don't like shopping in RL, and I'm not in SL to shop either. That's probably not an uncommon opinion among guys. If you go to them as a friend that wants to help, then even if they like their current look, they will understand your intentions.
And I was also one of the guys with the stupid bit of hair sticking out occasionally. If you take all the hair sliders to zero, you shouldn't need a bald wig. I made my av bald because it looked better than any option I saw at the time.
A lot of guys will just stick with what they've got rather than go shopping for something better unless a better option is right in front of them.
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Colette Meiji
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02-19-2008 18:43
From: Zed Kiergarten Good post. Its nobody's business how you look in SL... as far as I know there are no requirements to buy a 4000L$ skin or waste 400L$ on a body shape that anyone can get for free. I say if they ask feel free to help, otherwise let em' be... If you think it might actually be affecting their fun in SL, tell them a story about how you were in the same boat and got a "make-over" that really helped you out. Even if its not true, its less tacky than saying "you look new, fix yourself.." Zed .. I don't know how to break this to you ..
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Ceka Cianci
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02-19-2008 18:59
if there is something that needs a delicate touch i just don't use the short term for it.. and Noob is not Newb.Noob or Nub the insult versions where Newb is short for new person or new to.. Oh you are new to sl?no? Ooooh my mistake.. Sooo you are just a NoOob then*SMACK!!!!*  *giggles*
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Bree Giffen
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02-19-2008 19:05
Offer them a folder full of freebie clothes and such. Be sure to put in a lot of choices to pick from so that they can feel like they're in control of customizing themselves. If they start enjoying it you could try bringing them to a store and buying a gift for them.
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ArchTx Edo
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02-19-2008 19:17
From: Trout Recreant I don't have my 16 anymore. After three hours of me playing Back in Black and other AC/DC classics on the bagpipes buck naked, the neighbors bought it for 50,000L. Sounds like a reasonable price considering....
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Xanthia Nightfire
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02-19-2008 19:26
I had a hard time convincing my husband to drop the newbie look when he joined SL. He really liked his boy next door look, and kept saying so. I finally needled him into a new skin just because he couldn't get a beard to look right with the sliders. I knew he couldn't resist the Ohio State t-shirt, so I got him to change that. I'll never get him to change again though, I know it! 
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Johan Durant
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02-19-2008 19:39
I remember when I met with a customer once and he immediately exclaimed, "You are wearing noob clothes!" Never wore that shirt again.
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Ty Gabe
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02-19-2008 19:52
Simple. Next time they show up, mention that you were just getting ready to TP over to a really awesome freebie place (Free Dove, perhaps?) and ask if they care to tag along. Promise a non-shopping event afterwards (left wide open to interpretation, of course). Even as a male alt (I currently have 2), I initially found the noob look not too undesirable, but I like to play around with appearance for fun. However, once I picked up my first decent looking prim hair, it went downhill from there. 
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Ann Launay
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02-19-2008 20:02
From: Ty Gabe Simple. Next time they show up, mention that you were just getting ready to TP over to a really awesome freebie place (Free Dove, perhaps?) lol, I was there with my new alt a couple days ago and some guy IM'd me, "So how much for some head?" and then proceeded to follow me around, bumping me and running flexing gestures. He probably continued to proposition me too, but I muted him after the first attempt. Mind you, she had the freebie Calla hair and some freebie clothes, but still the default skin.
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Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
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