This piece of good news only adds to the other item when I discovered the LL booted out a person for design theft.
My negative feelings about SL are getting better all the time.
"CX"
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ConductorX Nieuport
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02-14-2008 05:15
This piece of good news only adds to the other item when I discovered the LL booted out a person for design theft.
My negative feelings about SL are getting better all the time. "CX" _____________________
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Yumi Murakami
DoIt!AttachTheEarOfACat!
Join date: 27 Sep 2005
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02-14-2008 05:19
The ad plots near my land are still there and as ugly as ever,just not for sale anymore. I wish we could AR the ugly. If you could AR the ugly it would devastate anyone's ability to freely create. I'm aware of zoned sims that actually specified that "builds must be of above average quality". That by definition excludes the majority of people on the grid, especially since according to Wikipedia, "the average player is below average". |
Tegg Bode
FrootLoop Roo Overlord
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02-14-2008 05:21
This could very easily become an area where LL doesn't have enough staff to keep up with all the ARs that could pour in. No reason to stop ARing them, finally some people power, if 16m owners want to have ads they better be nice about it ![]() I'm going to send some IM LOL's now back to our favorite $1L giver, isn't Karma wonderful ![]() LOL, look at http://secondlife.com/community/blotter.php It's the Valentines day Ad Farmer Massacre ![]() TPing to every yellow dot on the map for around 5 sims radius around home, I've AR'd about 20 different names, highest I found so far is $24k for a 16m, most were about $9k Found some are in group names witn no objects but for sale at extortion prices, but guess can't do anything about them, as you can't seem to AR a group anyway. _____________________
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Screwtape Foulsbane
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02-14-2008 05:30
I'm glad to see some progress about adfarmers. I just hope this doesn't get used on regular people who like eccentric builds. Please no SL Home Owner Associations!
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Alice Katayama
Making Faces
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02-14-2008 05:49
I am hoping that a certain egregious extortionist orthodox Russian Jew, currently residing in Germany is rethinking his actions. The ARs on that guy are going to cause the whole mainland to crash... ![]() Deu. I cant wait to get on and do a search for all his land just so I can hop around and file AR's! There is on near my store where he flat out said he wouldnt accept anything less than 6000l for a 16m square. I hope he looses a ton of money with this! _____________________
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Adz Childs
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02-14-2008 05:59
This could very easily become an area where LL doesn't have enough staff to keep up with all the ARs that could pour in. _____________________
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Alex Moraff
Random Speaker...
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02-14-2008 06:02
I am sure this has been said many times but...
ITS ABOUT TIME! That is all lol |
Puppet Shepherd
New Year, New Tricks
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02-14-2008 06:08
Have just logged into home to inspect a nice clocktower I had erected around a certain root vegetables spinning ad... and it's gone (the ad, not my nice clocktower). The 32 m2 is now Governor Linden land... I hadn't sent an AR so either he saw my nice clocktower and thought wow, that's cute... don't want to ruin that.. or.... Have any other instances gone from the grid? Mr. root vegetable's land near my skybox in Disl has also been abandoned back to Gov. Linden. Guess he figured if he couldn't get $2,500 or so for each 16 sq.m. parcel, he'd just abandon them. Of course I would have bought them for a REASONABLE price - but this guy is not reasonable. Good riddance, at any rate. _____________________
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Lindal Kidd
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02-14-2008 06:10
The ad plots near my land are still there and as ugly as ever,just not for sale anymore. I wish we could AR the ugly. Rioko, this just adds a step to your AR process. 1. Contact the land owner and offer to buy. 2. Get their price. 3. We'll assume that it's extortionate. Create an AR and send the chat log as evidence. _____________________
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Rioko Bamaisin
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02-14-2008 06:13
Rioko, this just adds a step to your AR process. 1. Contact the land owner and offer to buy. 2. Get their price. 3. We'll assume that it's extortionate. Create an AR and send the chat log as evidence. Ah,good idea! ![]() |
Puppet Shepherd
New Year, New Tricks
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02-14-2008 06:14
The ad plots near my land are still there and as ugly as ever,just not for sale anymore. I wish we could AR the ugly. I doubt that many of the 'advertising networks' will be financially stable without the extra profit from selling the land at extortionist prices. Now they have to rely solely on suckering businesses into paying ad fees for their income. Businesses may be reluctant to do this knowing that LL is taking action against adfarms. So sit tight - ideally, if LL goes through with enforcing this, eventually the rest of them will dry up and go away. Edit: I've had a look around, and it appears that many of the 'legit' ad networks have taken their parcels off the market entirely. Give it time, and remember that you can always AR them for obscenity if they are displayed porn within eyeshot of a PG sim (eyeshot is a pretty long way if you disable camera constraints.) _____________________
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Dekka Raymaker
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02-14-2008 06:16
The ad plots near my land are still there and as ugly as ever,just not for sale anymore. I wish we could AR the ugly. What next, I can't sell my land because the owner of the plot next to me as an ugly avatar, lets ban people with ugly avatars? |
Nina Stepford
was lied to by LL
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02-14-2008 06:26
the 'advertising' language worries me. i wonder if this will apply to simple rotating, particle emitting 'for sale' signs...
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Alice Katayama
Making Faces
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02-14-2008 06:27
What next, I can't sell my land because the owner of the plot next to me as an ugly avatar, lets ban people with ugly avatars? You act like this is a disaster, and linden interference like government interference is heavy handed, however in this case like so many that have gone before, the issue spun way out of control before anything but the heavy handed approach was useless. I for one will be doing a happy dance on any land that used to have a Black spinning cube with an ugly happy face on it. _____________________
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Broccoli Curry
I am my alt's alt's alt.
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02-14-2008 06:28
i wonder if this will apply to simple rotating, particle emitting 'for sale' signs... If it's encroaching off of the border on to your land... then it's harrassment. Simple 'for sale' cubes probably not - unless the land is at an extortionate price, because surely a 'for sale' cube counts as advertising? _____________________
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Dekka Raymaker
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02-14-2008 06:30
You act like this is a disaster, and linden interference like government interference is heavy handed, however in this case like so many that have gone before, the issue spun way out of control before anything but the heavy handed approach was useless. I for one will be doing a happy dance on any land that used to have a Black spinning cube with an ugly happy face on it. If you read my other posts in this thread you will see that on the whole I think this is a good thing to happen, I'm just trying to point out that vigilantism (ARing) needs to be tempered ![]() |
Rioko Bamaisin
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02-14-2008 06:31
What next, I can't sell my land because the owner of the plot next to me as an ugly avatar, lets ban people with ugly avatars? No, just ugly builds.... ![]() |
Yumi Murakami
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02-14-2008 06:31
Rioko, this just adds a step to your AR process. 1. Contact the land owner and offer to buy. 2. Get their price. 3. We'll assume that it's extortionate. Create an AR and send the chat log as evidence. But what happens if the farmer argues that, "we can charge L$50/week for ads in that spot, and there are 12 ads, so it's fair to charge L$2400 for the land since we'll lose far more than that by selling it?" That would be a concern for a legitimate advertising business too, of course. |
Nina Stepford
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02-14-2008 06:38
i certainly hope thats the case.
but a part of me thinks this is just too good to be true. Simple 'for sale' cubes probably not - unless the land is at an extortionate price, because surely a 'for sale' cube counts as advertising? |
Broccoli Curry
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02-14-2008 06:43
i certainly hope thats the case. but a part of me thinks this is just too good to be true. I guess the best way then is to AR it anyway if it is beyond what people would consider 'acceptable' and let Linden Lab make the decision. _____________________
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Alice Katayama
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02-14-2008 06:55
Check the incident reports they are already acting on it in a huge way!
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Travis Lambert
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02-14-2008 07:02
Wow - sounds fantastic!
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Colette Meiji
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02-14-2008 07:06
Not really. Once LL start banning the creator for multiple violations, that will disappear like the Casinos did when they banned gambling. You still hear about Casinos from time to time, And gambling even more so. Hopefully you are right. And Hopefully people are responsible about that thy turn in. Being responsible about what we turn in is going to be a good test for the future of the Age Verified policing. |
Katie Singh
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02-14-2008 07:10
I am a RL graphic designer and suppose to be very good in my field. So for example if I had a 16 m plot and construction a 1 prim 4 x 4 x 10 on the area, had it dead center on the ground (not floating) and had 4 very well professionally designed adverts on each side, each with PG content, without having the land set for sale how many people would object to that? Honestly, I don't want stuff next to my house that is there only to cram advertising into my eyeballs. I want a nice area that actually looks like something, if it's residential I want other houses, other people. If it's commercial, I want other businesses. So yes, if you stuck that next to my land, I would be very irritated by it. I'd stick a big screen there, which is itself irritating. Or I'd move to a skybox. (Well in reality, I won't buy on the mainland period.) And honestly, I don't know why someone paying $10-25 dollars for a small 512-4096 plot should have their space ruined by someone who's paying 10 or 20 cents for a microplot. And really, what is the point of this advertising? Does anyone ever look at these things and buy something? Or is this just some kind of web advertising "impression" scam? Because if that popped up next to my plot, commercial or residential, I'd swear on a stack of Bibles to never do business with the person ever ever ever. |
Kalderi Tomsen
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02-14-2008 07:25
Will this get rid of the problem? Probably not.
Will it reduce it? Probably. It is encouraging that this is yet another example of how LL is listening to the cires ot its residents? Yes, most definitely. At the worst, the extortionists will find some new way to do what they do, and we will be after them. Until then, some major eyesores and harassment is gone from SL. A positive bit of news, as far as i am concerned! Well done LL! _____________________
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