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Nina Stepford
was lied to by LL
Join date: 26 Mar 2007
Posts: 3,373
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06-18-2009 06:27
after activating your account (in your approval email) be sure to copy the links supplied in the final webpage as there IS NO WAY to go back and retrieve them later. i have been approved and have no idea what i should be doing, where it is done, and the webpage tells me nothing. theres nowhere to log in, etc. this is a fucked up implementation from where i sit. at the very least the email should tell you what to do next, or give some useful links.
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Nina Stepford
was lied to by LL
Join date: 26 Mar 2007
Posts: 3,373
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06-18-2009 06:29
good luck getting anyone to walk anywhere in sl, where nofly zones are a crime against humanity and telehubs are the bane of the grid hey. sl is such a teleportcentric vw they dont even bother with the roads and sim crossing issues are not a priority. i think maybe youre living in the past or whatnot. From: Argent Stonecutter But you won't be able to walk from the equivalent of Luskwood to the equivalent of Abbots Aerodrome. Or from Dogpatch to Night City in SPR.
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Anastasia Serenity
Registered User
Join date: 2 Jan 2009
Posts: 53
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06-18-2009 06:35
From: Nina Stepford after activating your account (in your approval email) be sure to copy the links supplied in the final webpage as there IS NO WAY to go back and retrieve them later. i have been approved and have no idea what i should be doing, where it is done, and the webpage tells me nothing. theres nowhere to log in, etc. this is a fucked up implementation from where i sit. at the very least the email should tell you what to do next, or give some useful links. Yes there is. Just go to the main Website http://www.bluemarsonline.com/And look under BLUEMARSDEV
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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06-18-2009 06:38
From: Nina Stepford good luck getting anyone to walk anywhere in sl, where nofly zones are a crime against humanity and telehubs are the bane of the grid hey. sl is such a teleportcentric vw they dont even bother with the roads and sim crossing issues are not a priority. Sim crossing issues are massively better than they were in 2006 and 2007. There's a lot of room for improvement, god knows, but it *is* possible. I don't need to "get anyone to walk" in SL, any more than I need to get people to stop teleporting or using the "64 bit bus" in SPR. I happen to be willing to do it, and interested in doing it, if you don't want to, that's fine.
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Nina Stepford
was lied to by LL
Join date: 26 Mar 2007
Posts: 3,373
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06-18-2009 06:44
youre the one giving bm a black mark because you cant walk from abbots. on bm abbots could be miles in any direction, with no sim crossings! not only could you spend hours walking, you could even fly! i cant wait for bm From: Argent Stonecutter Sim crossing issues are massively better than they were in 2006 and 2007. There's a lot of room for improvement, god knows, but it *is* possible.
I don't need to "get anyone to walk" in SL, any more than I need to get people to stop teleporting or using the "64 bit bus" in SPR. I happen to be willing to do it, and interested in doing it, if you don't want to, that's fine.
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Gabriele Graves
Always and Forever, FULL
Join date: 23 Apr 2007
Posts: 6,205
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06-18-2009 06:45
From: Nina Stepford good luck getting anyone to walk anywhere in sl, where nofly zones are a crime against humanity and telehubs are the bane of the grid hey. sl is such a teleportcentric vw they dont even bother with the roads and sim crossing issues are not a priority. i think maybe youre living in the past or whatnot. I think it depends on where your interests lay. I am one of a large group of people who sail, use roads, fly vehicles (dirgeables mainly) etc very frequently. I have personally traveled (in one go without region crossing hiccup) from my home through hundreds of sims and crossed from the north continent to the south (Corsica I think). I even posted in a thread about it here on the forums with a map of where I had travelled. Of course there are many problems with region crossing but you don't really get to hear about the many successes unfortunately. If this was not true then the Blake sea and its sailing sims would be pointless - yet many use them all the time. Cross sim traveling is far from being a dead activity even if there are large sections of the SL population that do not use it.
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Nina Stepford
was lied to by LL
Join date: 26 Mar 2007
Posts: 3,373
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06-18-2009 06:46
surely you lie
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Marcel Flatley
Sampireun Design
Join date: 29 Jul 2007
Posts: 2,032
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06-18-2009 06:49
950 posts about a product not even released From what I read on their web page, BM is aimed not to content creators, but play and interaction. The client and interface concentrates on that. If you want to develop content, you go another route then the average user. Well, for the average user that is no problem. And it is free to join. However: From: Blue Mars Web site Blue Mars is free to play and free to download. Different cities in the Blue Mars network can choose to offer premium pay to play, try to buy, and subscription based games and services. In addition, content creators will have custom clothing, appearances, items, furniture, behaviors, and animations available for purchase.
The above does make me think that BM is somehow a platform to develop games and services, i.e. a games platform. Where you pay per game/service. That does not sound like a virtual world to me... but only time can tell. As long as there is nothing published about pricing, no results of 1000 people being online in the same region/city, it is all way to speculative for my taste. For me, the only thing settled is the fact that the graphics are stunning. Anything more is not yet known. It may become a success, it might be a soap bubble.
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Nina Stepford
was lied to by LL
Join date: 26 Mar 2007
Posts: 3,373
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06-18-2009 06:49
i reckon those people might like the idea of huge regions too! From: Gabriele Graves I think it depends on where your interests lay. I am one of a large group of people who sail, use roads, fly vehicles (dirgeables mainly) etc very frequently. I have personally traveled (in one go without region crossing hiccup) from my home through hundreds of sims and crossed from the north continent to the south (Corsica I think). I even posted in a thread about it here on the forums with a map of where I had travelled.
Of course there are many problems with region crossing but you don't really get to hear about the many successes unfortunately. If this was not true then the Blake sea and its sailing sims would be pointless - yet many use them all the time. Cross sim traveling is far from being a dead activity even if there are large sections of the SL population that do not use it.
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Nina Stepford
was lied to by LL
Join date: 26 Mar 2007
Posts: 3,373
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06-18-2009 06:51
i like the idea of flying a jet in one direction for 10 minutes without a sim border than the idea of spending 10 hours dodging skyboxes and prim litter while rubberbanding through a sim border every 4 seconds. ymmv
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RobbyRacoon Olmstead
Red warrior is hungry!
Join date: 20 Sep 2006
Posts: 1,821
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06-18-2009 06:52
From: Anastasia Serenity Sandbox Viewer is not the Cryengine2 Editor. Well no, but the SandBox *Editor* from the Blue Mars Developer SDK is. It's got some tweaks, but it really is the CryEngine2 Sandbox Editor. .
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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06-18-2009 06:55
From: Nina Stepford youre the one giving bm a black mark because you cant walk from abbots. on bm abbots could be miles in any direction, with no sim crossings! Not when they're in different cities, which they would be in BM. Lusk and Abbots are owned by different people. In SPR, Night City is kind of like Zindra, and Dogpatch is kind of like Caletta.
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Gabriele Graves
Always and Forever, FULL
Join date: 23 Apr 2007
Posts: 6,205
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06-18-2009 06:57
From: Nina Stepford i reckon those people might like the idea of huge regions too! Sure they would but that misses something important about defining spaces between places, those wonderful places of diversity that you see when traveling. Maybe my long post about this didn't really describe it well but its like how we say something like "It is not the destination that counts but the journey". From: Nina Stepford i like the idea of flying a jet in one direction for 10 minutes without a sim border than the idea of spending 10 hours dodging skyboxes and prim litter while rubberbanding through a sim border every 4 seconds. ymmv I don't think anyone can argue with that. I think you really did miss my point above Nina, thats OK though as I previously said I probably didn't describe the concept well.
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Argent Stonecutter
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Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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06-18-2009 06:58
From: Marcel Flatley From what I read on their web page, BM is aimed not to content creators, but play and interaction. In Second Life, content creation is part of play and interaction. From: someone The above does make me think that BM is somehow a platform to develop games and services, i.e. a games platform. Where you pay per game/service. That does not sound like a virtual world to me... but only time can tell. Which is my point here. 
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Gabriele Graves
Always and Forever, FULL
Join date: 23 Apr 2007
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06-18-2009 07:02
From: Argent Stonecutter In Second Life, content creation is part of play and interaction. Which is my point here.  I agree with your point 
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Nina Stepford
was lied to by LL
Join date: 26 Mar 2007
Posts: 3,373
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06-18-2009 07:03
ok i clicked links until one took me somewhere other than marketing. so you were right 
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Nina Stepford
was lied to by LL
Join date: 26 Mar 2007
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06-18-2009 07:07
ok, well you guys enjoy your scenic trips through mainland then. im going to be checking out bm!
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Rock Vacirca
riches to rags
Join date: 18 Oct 2006
Posts: 1,093
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06-18-2009 07:09
From: Novis Dyrssen Pretty stupid to not even let the user choose a screen resolution, neither during install nor later on, since this is an essential setting for many users IMO. As an example, I am stuck with a client in widescreen format now while I still work on a non-widescreen TFT format. But I am no game developer of course.  We did find a way to change from widescreen to fullscreen though. It was posted a few days back. Rock
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Rock Vacirca
riches to rags
Join date: 18 Oct 2006
Posts: 1,093
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06-18-2009 07:12
From: Argent Stonecutter But you won't be able to walk from the equivalent of Luskwood to the equivalent of Abbots Aerodrome. Or from Dogpatch to Night City in SPR. True, but does anyone want to? One thing I can do though, is travel in a scripted vehicle the equivalent of 16 sims, in a straight line, without any scripts crashing. I think that is a more likely scenario than walking that distance. Rock
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Anastasia Serenity
Registered User
Join date: 2 Jan 2009
Posts: 53
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06-18-2009 07:12
From: Nina Stepford ok i clicked links until one took me somewhere other than marketing. so you were right  Yes  However, you can post this experince in the BM forum, so they can fix it. Posting problems here wont help BM guessed
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Rock Vacirca
riches to rags
Join date: 18 Oct 2006
Posts: 1,093
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06-18-2009 07:14
From: Nina Stepford after activating your account (in your approval email) be sure to copy the links supplied in the final webpage as there IS NO WAY to go back and retrieve them later. i have been approved and have no idea what i should be doing, where it is done, and the webpage tells me nothing. theres nowhere to log in, etc. this is a fucked up implementation from where i sit. at the very least the email should tell you what to do next, or give some useful links. Contact me off-list Nina, PM here, or in the BM Dev Forum, or PM in the Life on Mars forum, and I will give a walkthrough of what to do. Rock
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Gabriele Graves
Always and Forever, FULL
Join date: 23 Apr 2007
Posts: 6,205
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06-18-2009 07:16
From: Nina Stepford ok, well you guys enjoy your scenic trips through mainland then. im going to be checking out bm! *sighs* To say your comment misses the point would be an understatement 
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Gabriele Graves
Always and Forever, FULL
Join date: 23 Apr 2007
Posts: 6,205
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06-18-2009 07:17
From: Rock Vacirca True, but does anyone want to? One thing I can do though, is travel in a scripted vehicle the equivalent of 16 sims, in a straight line, without any scripts crashing. I think that is a more likely scenario than walking that distance.
Rock I am at least one other who thinks that these concepts are important for a VW. What if I want to drive a vehicle 40 sims worth of distance? Or when the world grows 100 sims worth - even with the way SL is today the *only* thing (apart from the crossings) that limit how far a vehicle can travel in a straight line is how many sims you can put end to end. It is that kind of extensibility that I feel is important in a contiguous space.
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RobbyRacoon Olmstead
Red warrior is hungry!
Join date: 20 Sep 2006
Posts: 1,821
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06-18-2009 07:28
From: Gabriele Graves even with the way SL is today the *only* thing (apart from the crossings) that limit how far a vehicle can travel in a straight line is how many sims you can put end to end Well, I don't think "only" really fits, since banlines and sim border crossings will limit that, in practice. If Second Life ever resolved that, I might actually be interested in SL vehicles. Until then, I can get my daily dose of frustration in too many other ways to want to deal with border crossing. .
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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06-18-2009 07:33
From: Rock Vacirca True, but does anyone want to? That would be "yes", since I've done it on a number of occasions. From: someone One thing I can do though, is travel in a scripted vehicle the equivalent of 16 sims, in a straight line, without any scripts crashing. I recently flew the Kessel run in Mehve, and the only place I had to reset scripts was when I lost Physics over Jesse. I've also done the longer, though not straight line, trip on the eastern supercontinent, as well as nap-of-land flying following the roads from east to west on the main continent.
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