Blake Sea
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Dakota Tebaldi
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Join date: 6 Feb 2008
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01-28-2009 08:17
From: Nber Medici There is no overall "race" wind in the Blake Sea. Normally your boat (assuming it is on of the classes of sailboats that uses "race" wind) takes race wind when it is either rezzed close to a wind setter or sails close to one. Most sailboats have the ability for the skipper to set the wind that the boat will use. In terms of how large an area... if a sailboat crosses a startline (i.e. starts a race) then the race wind parameters are locked in until the end of the race. If a sailboat doesn't have locked race wind, then it is possible for you to get new wind when you sail close to a wind setter. There are two wind setters in the Blake Sea. One is in Blake Pacific and the other is in Blake Atlantic. I hope this helps with your question. I'm curious as to where my brig gets the wind it uses to sail. This wind is 'usually' constant, but seems to change direction once every so often, usually by some 90 degrees or more (which can sometimes lead to a few moments of panicked adjustments, as my ship is capable of capsizing if I'm heeled over too far), and it changes speed relatively often, slowing down and picking up randomly. I'm aware that there is a "naturally-occurring" wind in SL - you can view its parameters through the Advanced menu - but -that- wind seems to change direction much too often to be the same wind that my ship uses. I can't set the wind for myself, and I don't believe the ship sets it either, as I've sailed with more than one of these vessels and each of us dealt with the same wind.
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Nber Medici
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01-28-2009 08:38
From: Dakota Tebaldi I'm curious as to where my brig gets the wind it uses to sail. This wind is 'usually' constant, but seems to change direction once every so often, usually by some 90 degrees or more (which can sometimes lead to a few moments of panicked adjustments, as my ship is capable of capsizing if I'm heeled over too far), and it changes speed relatively often, slowing down and picking up randomly. I'm aware that there is a "naturally-occurring" wind in SL - you can view its parameters through the Advanced menu - but -that- wind seems to change direction much too often to be the same wind that my ship uses. I can't set the wind for myself, and I don't believe the ship sets it either, as I've sailed with more than one of these vessels and each of us dealt with the same wind. IF your brig is "hearing" race wind from a wind setter somewhere, the likelihood of a 90 degree wind shift is extremely unlikely. Perhaps you should contact the maker of the brig and ask?
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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 7,145
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01-28-2009 09:08
From: Dakota Tebaldi And the cave in Windlass! Ooh, gotta look for that. The cave in spyglass seems right up your alley, Dakota. (Note to any LDPW types who might lurk the thread: interactivity! Thanks! It really adds to the overall quality of the build to have things to interact with!) From: Jim Perhaps Imagine you are sailng and a group of boats involved in an USS organized event come along and tell you that you must move because they have more rights than you do on public mainland. Or imagine a flyin is held at one of the six USS airports and a group of planes come along and tell you are interfering with their event and what you must do. I think that would cause a great deal of friction. FWIW, Imagine being told you can't use the stage in Oak Grove because some group is hosting an event there, or similar other spots across the SL mainland. I don't mind if the USS can host events there. What I'd be more concerned with is if you or I could do the same. The very one. I could be wrong, but I don't recall it being that far east.
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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 7,145
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01-28-2009 09:13
From: Jim Perhaps Imagine you are sailng and a group of boats involved in an USS organized event come along and tell you that you must move because they have more rights than you do on public mainland. Or imagine a flyin is held at one of the six USS airports and a group of planes come along and tell you are interfering with their event and what you must do. I think that would cause a great deal of friction. FWIW, Imagine being told you can't use the stage in Oak Grove because some group is hosting an event there, or similar other spots across the SL mainland. I don't mind if the USS can host events there. What I'd be more concerned with is if you or I could do the same. The very one. I could be wrong, but I don't recall it being that far east.
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Sindy Tsure
Will script for shoes
Join date: 18 Sep 2006
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01-28-2009 09:34
Speaking of spyglasses, I spotted a couple telescopes last night in my quick cruise through the area. One up on a hill in Half Hitch and another, IIRC, in that sim that's sortofan island park with trees & benches & such in a valley. I had the impression that they were pointing sorta-but-not-exactly towards each other and was going to track down their lines of sight and maybe find treasure at the intersection.. It's probably nothing but if somebody's bored and in-world before I finish work and can log in, you can check it out...  edit: the mole tank barge has been in Weiland for a while: /327/34/248406/27.html#post2187990
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Jim Perhaps
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Applauds the Lindens
01-28-2009 10:59
I believe that the Lindens as stated before in an previous post could not have picked better people to head up their efforts to promote sailing in Second Life than MarkTwain or Nber. Nor am I or anyone else I know opposed to those individuals holding events that we can all enjoy in the Blake Sea.
All I have been saying all along is that the roughly 140 privately owned United Sailing Sims are engaged in unrestricted commercial enterprises. Even if they are unprofitable I believe there is some validity to the argument the Lindens have inadvertently provided them with advantage over all the other estate and business owners. So much so it should make at least a few jaws drop.
It started out as sailing.. now there is a huge push for aviation with the promotion of the Hollywood Airport as the central aviation hub for all of Second Life along with promotion of the commercial activities there that benefit the USS. To annex a small group of people engaged in commerce who presently have over 140 sims, (plenty of room for sailing and flying I would think) to a huge public mainland resource such as the Blake Sea with out transparency and a very clear set of limits on their authority and useage rights seems like the same kind of short sightedness that caused the Open Sim price increase issues.
If nothing more the Lindens have inadvertently shown considerable disregard for all other estate owners and businesss though I know this was not their intent.
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MarkTwain White
4th Incarnation
Join date: 6 Nov 2004
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01-28-2009 13:42
From: Jim Perhaps It started out as sailing.. now there is a huge push for aviation with the promotion of the Hollywood Airport as the central aviation hub for all of Second Life along with promotion of the commercial activities there that benefit the USS.
A huge push? So far the marketing of Hollywood Airport amounts to a weekly classified ad I run for the airport which contains typical ad copied designed to promote the airport. The hugely successful promotion of the Hollywood Airport and USS continues to come from your postings here Jim. Once again I must thank you for the great PR you are providing Hollywood Airport. Our traffic has more than doubled in the past week. 
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Argent Stonecutter
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01-28-2009 13:51
From: MarkTwain White Once again I must thank you for the great PR you are providing Hollywood Airport. Our traffic has more than doubled in the past week.  Oooh burn.
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Jesse Barnett
500,000 scoville units
Join date: 21 May 2006
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01-28-2009 14:57
Yep that is the one. I missed the Oct blog post and hence missed the Magellan Linden tie in. After all of this time it is still exciting to see a Linden log into that account and interact with the world. The blog post did solve one mystery though. I IMed Argent and said the barge was just west of Half Hitch, Marianne said it was just west of Nautilus and I forgot where Argent said it was  Well heck I guess none of us are all that great at navigation because the blog post from October stated: "Magellan: Just tow it out to Weiland or Shenning. I'll board it there, head south." And Weiland was exactly where Marianne and I found it last night. (Groan, 1:30AM my time. See I said I stayed up too late  ) Anyhooos, I made a silly statement in the Boat thread that I didn't want a big boat. That promise lasted just a handful of hours. Since the day before yesterday I have purchased a Flying Tako (which I still love. I second Marianne's recommendation on this one), a Trucor Beach Cat which is OMG fast and fun but maybe a little too finicky for relaxing, and finally a 200+ prim Trudeau Larinda Schooner which is an absolute joy to sail and easy as heck, but it seems to be affected a little more by slow, congested network, but did I say it is beautiful and easy to sail?  I actually spent quite a few years of my life on the water and instantly fell in love with the beautiful Larinda when I saw Infrared Wind's out on the water yesterday. Ooops and forgot to mention the custom sails for the Tako! I plan on logging in here in a little bit and going to take a look at Jaqueline's little bit smaller boats too, something around 29 prims. Sure wouldn't mind owning stock in her business right now. Did I say I was boat rich and $L poor yet? Then I'll be looking to catch a fair breeze and find those spyglasses and the cave and hopefully some more easter eggs. Thanks for the race wind explanation Nber. I think I need to rez another copy of my Tako because it is the only boat that keeps giving me the message when I try to set practice wind. Oh and make sure to dive into the whirlpools!
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Charlotte Bartlett
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Join date: 21 Sep 2006
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01-28-2009 15:44
There is a great rez point too that allows for bigger boats at Windlass http://slurl.com/secondlife/Blake%20Sea%20-%20Windlass/203/50/24 Happy Sailing!
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Jim Perhaps
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Join date: 10 Dec 2005
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A brief exchange with Jack Linden
01-28-2009 15:56
From: MarkTwain White A huge push? So far the marketing of Hollywood Airport amounts to a weekly classified ad I run for the airport which contains typical ad copied designed to promote the airport. The hugely successful promotion of the Hollywood Airport and USS continues to come from your postings here Jim. Once again I must thank you for the great PR you are providing Hollywood Airport. Our traffic has more than doubled in the past week.  First a quick response to Mark. My statement regarding the huge push for aviation in USS is not based on your airport alone. In an earlier post you yourself Mark made the statement "sorry Jim the deal we were working on did not work out" I have shed a little light on just how misleading that "did not work out" statement was in a previous post so no need to repeat myself here. However your statement that we were working on a deal seems to suggests I had direct insight to your aspirations regarding the growing number of airfields within the USS you yourself documented in your note card.  I did, I just was not all that interested as I would be going to work for you doing the same thing I am successfully doing for myself. There was no deal I declined your offer.  I had no interest in the limit opportunity Patrick and Fanci offered me either but I am glad I met the both of them. Fanci is very pleasant and Patrick keeps his scheduled appointments faithfully. As far as me being directly responsible for you doing well I am glad to hear that. I have repeatedly said I want all people to prosper based on their efforts. I do not exclude you from "all people". To what degree you believe this is beyond my control. I could say my business has also increased but I think that would sound a bit like.. "nah nah na nah na"  I hope to avoid triggering people into turning this into a flame which is the way these forums so often go. Sorry folks.... Now my exchange with Jack Linden. How sincere it was time will tell. First, we both agreed that Mark and Nber were the the obvious ones to enlist for what Jack refered to as "version 1". I do not know how many times I have said kind words about Mark and Nber in my posts here regarding that. Jack stated that this first round is to see of how they will run projects like this" and that this first project will give them "the opportunity to learn how best to do it" They expect some things will go well and "some will not". They want to do more of these projects and partner with others so there will be "clearly stated eligibility guidelines" forthcoming from Linden Labs according to Jack. Time will tell. He feels as I do that it will all turn out very good and he was very interested in feedback. He asked me to elaborate on ways the USS might have advantages over other estate owners and businesses having had their estates annexed to the Blake Sea which they will be directly involved with for this first project. That should be an easy task and I will respectfully present them to him when I have written them out. He said they are looking for feedback as they determine how to mange these "projects". Once again time will tell. I think in all honesty I have accomplished all I set out to do. When I received a note card saying I had to observer the flight rules of the USS in all of Blake Sea, I felt there was a need to raise a red flag. I felt there need to be a general awareness that no matter how you cut the cake the United Sailing Sims is a commercial enterprise. After all you don't end up with 140 sims if you are not bring in the money. I feel that Linden Labs is going to handle this in a manner that benefits us all in the long run. This opinion leaves me satisfied with the results of my efforts. Happy Sailing! 
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Jesse Barnett
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Join date: 21 May 2006
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01-28-2009 16:18
You can rez large boats and set out to sea at Isla de Jacquinda at least at the marina where she sells and shows her boats.
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Jesse Barnett
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01-28-2009 18:23
Shhhh! Don't tell Dakota and Marianne! Windlass has a swim up bar there! Moles did a nice job there, all the cave under the waterfall needs is a sexgen bed now 
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Jim Perhaps
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Large Boats
01-29-2009 04:41
I also spoke with Michael Linden as mentioned in a previous post and he made additional rezzing room on the opposite side of the dock in Barbarossa for large boats.
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Calveen Kline
In pursuit of Happiness
Join date: 5 Jan 2007
Posts: 682
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No voice in the Blake Sea
01-29-2009 06:40
Hi guys and gals, does anyone know why there's no voice allowed in any of the Blake Sea sims? is this intentional or just another LL flup?
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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01-29-2009 06:43
No voice allowed? Bliss! 
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Sling Trebuchet
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Join date: 20 Jan 2007
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01-29-2009 06:52
From: Calveen Kline Hi guys and gals, does anyone know why there's no voice allowed in any of the Blake Sea sims? is this intentional or just another LL flup? I was on the spectator blimp during the big race, when some commented on the absence of Voice. I suggested that it was to cut the posibliity of too many people shouting "Ahoy!" This resulted in a small blizzard of "Ahoy!"s in Chat  Seriousness aside, sailors are accustomed to shouting for water and right of way during races. It would be hard to type that in a tight situation, particularly on a single-handed boat. Hot-key gestures would do it though. The number of calls is very limited and they are standard in content.
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Calveen Kline
In pursuit of Happiness
Join date: 5 Jan 2007
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01-29-2009 10:17
Does this mean then that all these sims are solely for the use of racers? or for public recreation as well? There's nothing romantic about sailing with your sweetheart, whispering nice things when suddenly encountered by silence when crossing the sim border. And back to typing... WTF! I totally understand those who regard voice as a possibility for abuse, but you can't have a blanket ban on voice due to some remote chance that someone may abuse it. If there's a sailor(s) who don't want to be part of voice, he/she can just deactivate in Preferences settings.
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Nber Medici
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Join date: 18 Feb 2004
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Autoreturn Turned On
01-29-2009 10:27
Some of the Blake Sea sims did not have autoreturn on ..when parcels were made in order for us to set race buoys...autoreturn did not get turned back on. That has now been done (thanks SO much Michael). Autoreturn times vary in the sea... most is 15 minutes. Just FYI.
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Nber Medici
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01-29-2009 10:29
From: Calveen Kline Does this mean then that all these sims are solely for the use of racers? or for public recreation as well? There's nothing romantic about sailing with your sweetheart, whispering nice things when suddenly encountered by silence when crossing the sim border. And back to typing... WTF! I totally understand those who regard voice as a possibility for abuse, but you can't have a blanket ban on voice due to some remote chance that someone may abuse it. If there's a sailor(s) who don't want to be part of voice, he/she can just deactivate in Preferences settings. Voice is activated in the vast majority (maybe all) of the USS. The racers have no preference one way or the other as far as I can tell. Personally I would be fine with having voice turned on. You are exactly correct in saying that all that has to be done if you DON'T want it, is to turn it off in Preferences.
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Argent Stonecutter
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01-29-2009 10:31
From: Calveen Kline I totally understand those who regard voice as a possibility for abuse, but you can't have a blanket ban on voice due to some remote chance that someone may abuse it. If there's a sailor(s) who don't want to be part of voice, he/she can just deactivate in Preferences settings. From: Nber Medici You are exactly correct in saying that all that has to be done is to turn it off in Preferences if you like. I'd be all for it if they'd just implement http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1317 so that those of us who disable voice aren't left standing around like idiots not knowing if you're idle, afk, or just chatting away on voice ignoring us.
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Nber Medici
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01-29-2009 10:51
From: Argent Stonecutter I'd be all for it if they'd just implement http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1317 so that those of us who disable voice aren't left standing around like idiots not knowing if you're idle, afk, or just chatting away on voice ignoring us. I usually just assume that people are ignoring me if this happens 
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MarkTwain White
4th Incarnation
Join date: 6 Nov 2004
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The Making of the Blake Sea
01-29-2009 13:01
Hi everyone. It is great to see the enthusiasm and downright excitement about the Blake Sea. Since Nber, ZATZAi Asturias and I have worked hand in hand with LL on this project we will, as time goes along, provide help and assistance to you both here on the LL Forum and on the pages of the USS Web site at http://unitedsailingsims.com. Nber is already doing so I see. I am sure that the Lindens will be doing the same, but I don't want to speak for them as to what venues they will use to provide helpful information. Michael Linden heads up a team of some ten or so "moles" that have been working hard for over a month (maybe two?) to create the Blake Sea. He has been great to work with throughout the process which, of course, is very much still ongoing (the initial development I mean). Just a teaser: In the near future I will begin a series of articles called "The History of the Blake Sea: The Beginnings". Much of what went into developing the Blake Sea concept, much of what you see in the Blake Sea, and much of what will be coming in the future for SL sailing on the overall grid will be discussed. In the meantime: LET'S PLAY! 
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MarkTwain White Living in Union Passage on the shores of the BLAKE SEA http://slsailing.COM
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Nber Medici
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Sunday Sail On Regatta - 10 am SLT
01-30-2009 08:47
Every Sunday (except on rare occasions) since August of 2007, we have held a regatta at 10 am. A regatta is a series of races. The regatta is scored and a winner announced later. It usually lasts for about 1 1/2 hours. With the move to the Blake Sea, we will be using the start line in Blake Pacific (NE corner of the Blake Sea). This coming Sunday we will be racing the Flying Tako. If you would like to come and watch, we would love to have you. I am giving some SLURLS to good viewing spots for the regatta. Crows Nest is at the orange buoy which is likely to be the farthest West that the races will go. The audio feed is available here. http://slurl.com/secondlife/Blake%20Sea%20-%20Crows%20Nest/129/204/54The Angel's Gate Lighthouse Bar in Hollywood is another popular place to watch / listen to the live telecast. The SLCN live video feed will be available there for your viewing pleasure. http://slurl.com/secondlife/Hollywood/25/49/45Soon after the event the televised regatta will be available online at: http://slcn.tv/sailonThanks!!
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Scott Savira
Not Scott Saliva
Join date: 10 Aug 2008
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01-30-2009 12:05
I thought I had SL figured out and my noobie wonder had ceased. After reading this thread I realize just how little I know. I have a lot to learn. All this stuff sounds like good fun. I should really explore the mainland some more. Heck, maybe I'll ditch my 4096 estate plot and get a mainland one somewhere.
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