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Bradley Bracken
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01-21-2009 13:40
From: HoneyBear Lilliehook
Increasingly poor service, branching out into areas they should have left alone, possible merge of the teen/main grids....


Can someone explain why I chose to come back after a 4 month hiatus?
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HoneyBear Lilliehook
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01-21-2009 13:41
From: Bradley Bracken
Can someone explain why I chose to come back after a 4 month hiatus?


Cuz you love us and you missed us and you crave to make cute furniture again :D
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Czari Zenovka
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01-21-2009 13:44
From: Ceka Cianci
Lets just say last nights news about onrez and Xstreet...that was the show stopper for me..


This one did it for me too. Unless I see significant improvement in the next few months, I plan to tier down to 512, use that as my home or perhaps a small shop.

Or, I might just go back to Basic and rent a shop on estate property. Not sure.

All I know is I see one bad decision after another by LL and I don't want to immerse or expand my business until I see what happens. XStreet was always one area I could trust overall...now with LL buying it out...anything could happen.

/one disgruntled SL resident
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Bradley Bracken
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01-21-2009 13:47
From: HoneyBear Lilliehook
Cuz you love us and you missed us and you crave to make cute furniture again :D


True...true...and true
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Czari Zenovka
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01-21-2009 13:48
From: Arielyn Docherty
There are other platforms out there for educators--this isn't it! Perhaps LL could consider specific islands, purchased by educational institutions, allowing both teens and adults. It couldn't be that hard to configure. The adults could import the resources needed for any educational experiences. As an educator myself, I would love to be able to utilize the resources on the entire grid, but I'm enough of a realist to see the profound potential for abuses. Maybe it's time for us, as teachers, instructors and professors, to develop our OWN grid for just that purpose--teaching.


If this ever transpires, please count me in. One of my top interests in SL these days is eduction.
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Nika Talaj
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01-21-2009 13:55
From: Czari Zenovka
If this ever transpires, please count me in. One of my top interests in SL these days are eduction.
It's called Project Wonderland, backed by Sun and based on Java. Here's an overview with a pointer to the site.

http://blogs.universitybusiness.com/2008/06/project-wonderl.html

NMC (New Media Consortium) was heavily involved last time I checked.
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Brenda Connolly
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01-21-2009 14:26
From: Bradley Bracken
Can someone explain why I chose to come back after a 4 month hiatus?


Your butt. There is no other like it in all of SL buttdom.
Bradley Bracken
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01-21-2009 14:29
From: Brenda Connolly
Your butt. There is no other like it in all of SL buttdom.


Awwwwww. You remembered. (sniff)
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Dagmar Heideman
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01-21-2009 20:51
From: BB Bohemia
Not at all. SL has run more smoothly over past weeks and months than any time for me before that. A few minor glitches over the past few days but nothing really. Honestly, whenever there are a few temporary grid problems people start this kind of sky-falling nonsense. Or if people can't log in for a couple of hours all the toys come flying out of the pram.
While I don't think the SL sky is falling your statements simply don't comport with reality. Unless you live in an alternate universe the facts regarding grid performance cannot be reconciled with your first 2 sentences. I have experienced much better periods of grid stability and performance in SL than the past weeks as has anyone who has been here for at least a year.
From: BB Bohemia
As for merging teen/main grids... excellent idea and long overdue. Time to get rid of all the stupid fake-sex stuff and the people who get off on it. Time to open SL up to the possiblity of effective educational projects. Time for SL to become the platform it always had the potential to be.
That is an extremely short sighted and narrow minded statement that simultaneously displays a position of ignorance about the broader ramifications of merging the grids concerning speech, self-expression, creativity, content access, and id security.
Clarissa Lowell
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01-22-2009 00:27
From: HoneyBear Lilliehook
Or a certain unnamed Church ;)

*ducks*


Now THAT was offensive. And unnecessary.

Also inaccurate - pedophiles go anywhere kids are. And I can tell u from working with certain charities and organisations that means *everywhere*. Not just "one certain church."

Don't the SL TOS rules about not slamming religious groups, apply on the forums as well?

Just not funny. (And imagine a victim reading it, too if it's only "that church" you want to insult; not so funny from any vantage point.)
BB Bohemia
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01-22-2009 00:33
From: Dagmar Heideman

That is an extremely short sighted and narrow minded statement that simultaneously displays a position of ignorance about the broader ramifications of merging the grids concerning speech, self-expression, creativity, content access, and id security.


Not at all. It expresses the far-sighted vision that I share with Linden Lab and a number of organisations that would be prepared to explore the potential of SL for major projects that foster creativity and learning in people of all ages.

Unfortunately many people are unable to see beyond their own paradigms of what SL is or could be. These are based on SL as it is now, and reinforced by an aversion to change. This underpins many of the frankly ludicrous 'arguments' against any form of positive development for SL.

Merging the grids is just part of a much bigger picture.
Clarissa Lowell
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01-22-2009 00:35
From: BB Bohemia
Merging the grids is just part of a much bigger picture.


What is the bigger picture please?

I cannot see an upside to this plan. I'd love to know.
Tiberious Neruda
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01-22-2009 01:07
From: Arielyn Docherty
From: Talarus Luan
Yeah, but nothing beats 6/6/6.
Pair of aces??


You'll bet those bullets against a set? I'll gladly take some of THAT action!

No, 6/6/6 refers to 6/6/06, when the Great Unwashed Masses™ were allowed in. Previously, you needed a valid payment method to get an account... now all you need is a disposable (or fake) email address. Why do you think griefing went to absurd levels after that point? Just roll a disposable alt, and blast away. Gets banned? No big deal. Can roll another and keep going if you want.
Sling Trebuchet
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01-22-2009 02:42
From: Wulfric Chevalier
.........
It may be that they are constantly changing the vision or it may be that different parts of the company are pushing in different directions, what I am sure of is that they don't have a clear and consistent idea of where they are trying to go with this thing. As a result we get confused decisions that get reversed, most obviously the OS fiasco, and there is never-ending tension between new features and improving stability (which to a certain extent is probably inevitable).
....


Harkening to another current thread -- it's like the storyline of Lost.
------ made up as it goes along.



And people keep watching.
HoneyBear Lilliehook
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01-22-2009 03:31
From: Clarissa Lowell
Now THAT was offensive. And unnecessary.

Also inaccurate - pedophiles go anywhere kids are. And I can tell u from working with certain charities and organisations that means *everywhere*. Not just "one certain church."

Don't the SL TOS rules about not slamming religious groups, apply on the forums as well?

Just not funny. (And imagine a victim reading it, too if it's only "that church" you want to insult; not so funny from any vantage point.)


Let's see...I specifically did not name a particular religion or group. If your mind filled the blank in....*shrugs*

OK, so that's now two posts where you're putting words into my mouth.
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Tabliopa Underwood
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01-22-2009 03:57
From: Sling Trebuchet
Harkening to another current thread -- it's like the storyline of Lost.
------ made up as it goes along.

And people keep watching.


True =)

Although sometimes I think SL more like a reality TV show. And we all in it.
Yngwie Krogstad
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01-22-2009 05:10
From: Tabliopa Underwood
True =)

Although sometimes I think SL more like a reality TV show. And we all in it.


We're Truman?
Tabliopa Underwood
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01-22-2009 05:42
From: Yngwie Krogstad
We're Truman?


More like Neighbours From Hell sometimes I think =)
Czari Zenovka
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01-22-2009 07:01
From: Nika Talaj
It's called Project Wonderland, backed by Sun and based on Java. Here's an overview with a pointer to the site.

http://blogs.universitybusiness.com/2008/06/project-wonderl.html

NMC (New Media Consortium) was heavily involved last time I checked.
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Thanks Nika :)
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Eli Schlegal
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01-22-2009 07:08
From: HoneyBear Lilliehook
Let's see...I specifically did not name a particular religion or group. If your mind filled the blank in....*shrugs*

OK, so that's now two posts where you're putting words into my mouth.


There was no question what religion you were talking about. Why not just admit it was a bad joke and appologize?
HoneyBear Lilliehook
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01-22-2009 07:18
From: Eli Schlegal
There was no question what religion you were talking about. Why not just admit it was a bad joke and appologize?


Really? No question? If there was no question...then why be offended?

For all you know, I could have been discussing my local church and it was an inside joke to the person I was responding to who, while we're making assumptions, could very well be my sister.

Or it could have been the House of Honey Fashion Worship Center.

If someone filled in the unnamed portion of my statement with a church that they think has that reputation...I'd say that it's not MY fault.

So no, not apologizing.

And I'm simply amazed that someone will get their panties in a bunch over an *intentionally* unnamed church, but not say a word about Congress being a pedophile haven.

Sheesh. Get over it.
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01-22-2009 07:21
From: Clarissa Lowell
What is the bigger picture please?


Eli Schlegal
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01-22-2009 07:24
From: HoneyBear Lilliehook
Really? No question? If there was no question...then why be offended?

For all you know, I could have been discussing my local church and it was an inside joke to the person I was responding to who, while we're making assumptions, could very well be my sister.

Or it could have been the House of Honey Fashion Worship Center.

If someone filled in the unnamed portion of my statement with a church that they think has that reputation...I'd say that it's not MY fault.

So no, not apologizing.

And I'm simply amazed that someone will get their panties in a bunch over an *intentionally* unnamed church, but not say a word about Congress being a pedophile haven.

Sheesh. Get over it.


Fail.
HoneyBear Lilliehook
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01-22-2009 07:26
Awww, I'm crushed.
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01-22-2009 07:26
From: HoneyBear Lilliehook
Really? No question? If there was no question...then why be offended?

For all you know, I could have been discussing my local church and it was an inside joke to the person I was responding to who, while we're making assumptions, could very well be my sister.

Or it could have been the House of Honey Fashion Worship Center.

If someone filled in the unnamed portion of my statement with a church that they think has that reputation...I'd say that it's not MY fault.

So no, not apologizing.

And I'm simply amazed that someone will get their panties in a bunch over an *intentionally* unnamed church, but not say a word about Congress being a pedophile haven.

Sheesh. Get over it.


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