Train Wreck?

Honeybear, I don't want to start a debate here, as you already know I am sooo with you on the issues with LL. My question to you, however, is at what age do we stop monitoring our own children's internet use? I ask for a reason. In another thread, someone mentioned being with a child at all times while he/she is on the grid. That would mean sitting right next to the child, which is certainly feasible and perhaps even advisable MOST of the time. In my case, I have a fifteen year old; a twelve year old; and a seven year old. Each has his/her own computer with computer time limited dependent upon age. My seven year old is only allowed on the computer in the dining room; is only allowed to visit sites I have previewed (Webkinz, Ty, Neopets, etc). My oldest two, however, have their own computers and are SUPPOSED to be only on sites we have discussed. I check the history on both computers periodically, I have filters on both, and to some extent want to TRUST them to be "on their own." Their doors are always open, so I can pop in at any time, and do, to see what they're doing online. I guess my point is that it would be nearly impossible to sit with all three, every time one of them wants to access the computer. I don't expect LL to make my job "easier" as a parent, but I also don't want them opening the door to many things that will make my job more "difficult." Thoughts?

Or a certain unnamed Church

*ducks*

I'm sure you're aware, Arielyn, that the teen grid is for teens age 13-18.

My point wasn't so much that the teens are unchecked, as much as it was that their parents aren't checking them. Each parent has to decide for themselves whether their child is mature enough to handle the internet...but just like with television, too many parents put the internet in charge of entertaining their children.

There's a huge difference in my mind between a 13 year old and an 18 year old. If LL does something responsible like making "teen islands", then I'll be a bit more supportive of this idea. If they just unleash these kids to the main grid as it currently exists, then I can't support it.

Here here.

heres another question..would they even fit on the grid? it's about to pop already lol
or do they plan on getting rid of something else to make room

/me blinks rapidly mouth hanging open


http://media-dis-n-dat.blogspot.com/2008/09/second-life-can-offer-freedom-to-people.html


Now I think back to a recent artical I saw on my local news where a lovely couple, he in a wheel chair paralized and her not, but through second life "stupid fake-sex stuff" they are able to simulate a loveing and warm relationship. It keeps both happy and who hte hell are you to judge people who do use thes items! You have no idea what drives them and a majority of them this is there ONLY form of sex play with partners.

As for merging the teen grids, you will just be feeding the possibility of pedofiles having access to teens or younger and that my friend will be the silencing of the grid for sure when LL is slapped with a lawsuit over a teen being raped because SL allowed some lurking pedofile access to a child!

This is where I come in and say, "This ain't got nothing on October 2006."

What happened October 2006?

ooooh... you are feisty today, aren't you?

Or May 2008.

mmhmm....checking the magic 8-ball "it is decidedly so".

The grid was a mess. As well as the usual Wednesday morning outages (which lasted all day as the updates failed, and failed again), there were additional outages -- full kick-you-off-the-grid outages -- on more days than not. When the grid *was* up, the script kiddies were crashing things left and right with gray goo attacks ranging from the flying penis to the noisemaking shuttlecock. This was around the advent of the "Gray Goo Fence." Also, they had just changed how textures loaded on the system, causing most avatars to end up wearing "Missing Image" across their bodies with no easy way to fix the issue. SL itself was almost wholly unusable, when you could even get online.



Ya, that was pretty ugly too.

Um...what happened May 2008?

Sheesh people..give us newbies a chance to catch up here!

I think the beginning of the last OpenSpace sim debacle. Though due to personal losses My memory may be subjective.

I agree, from our point of view...Train Wreck.

Maybe just maybe, they have a plan....

So naive.

In May 2008 we went through a month of failed transactions that drove businesses and customers to insanity. Linden$ balances wouldn't show, purchases timed out, item deliveries failed.

People stopped shopping because they were worried about not getting their items. Business owners would log in and have to redeliver half of their sales for the day. It was a disaster and it lasted for weeks.

Yeah, but nothing beats 6/6/6.

I agree with you (and I'm not related to a Linden heh).

I must note that I'm not a typical user though - I use many different clients, I like to tweak settings, I know how to optimize my SL experience; also, I'm based in Italy (so our timezones are different) and I use Linux (so that many client issues are different).

I'm still optimist about SL - I think SL won't fade until something appears that really provides every feature SL is providing now, in a better way - and it appears this is not such a trivial task.

I just have to say after reading the article in the link above i had to swipe tears from my face. I work with partial and fully wheelchair bound people, and If SL can bring that kind of happiness to their lives that is just awesome and, as for the couple being able to enjoy themselves ina adult manner in sl because they can't in rl thats a trully moving thought too.

I know many couples who live apart for various reasons (work, family so on and so on) that use Sl as a way to connect. merging the two grids and telling these ppl that they can no longer behave in a ADULT manner is just plain outrageous.

Pair of aces??

There is an important lynchpin in the whole discussion. WHO does LL want SL to appeal to. The geeks, and computer hobbyists who don't mind endlessly fiddling with things, and don't mind buying a new piece of hardware several times, or do they want they "average" person, who just wants to turn it on and play for a while?

Then there was the 2 day long outage of 2004

Actually I have had that train wreck feeling for quite a long time. I just never expected the train to pick up so much speed before impact.

I strongly suspect that this is the cause if many of the problems we face - that LL doesn't know, or keeps changing more likely - who they want to appeal to. There have been times when I've felt they are mainly interested in RL companies using it as an alternative to a traditional website, mainly for advertising, times when it's felt like they wanted it to be a place to host virtual meetings, times when SL businesses seemed their focus, presenting it as a place you could run your entitree business, and times when it's felt like they are really interested in people like me - who use SL in a variety of ways - to create, as a chatroom, and as a place to wander and explore what others have created, but basically just as entertainment.

It may be that they are constantly changing the vision or it may be that different parts of the company are pushing in different directions, what I am sure of is that they don't have a clear and consistent idea of where they are trying to go with this thing. As a result we get confused decisions that get reversed, most obviously the OS fiasco, and there is never-ending tension between new features and improving stability (which to a certain extent is probably inevitable).

As for the sky falling, the last 10-14 days have been bad for lag in all its forms, but I've seen worse, February 2007 was awful as I recall, and May 2008 was worse than it is now. It will get better, it always has and I see no reason to think it will be different this time.

SL now is much much better than when I jopined in December 2006 - it is far more stable, performs better, and has new features that have improved my experience. Notrhing that's gone in that time has really affected me, and overall I'm happy with the way things have gone.

So something like a third, education-only mixed grid? I like it. There are many islands on the main grid that are university branch campuses. I have no idea what they do with students who are 16 or 17 years old--and colleges do get such students. Islands owned by educational institutions that would allow for high-school/college co-enrollment might be a good thing.

But teens all over the main grid? I agree, that seems like a very bad idea.

Second Llama, the Virtual Drama Environment.