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Traffic Bots Against the TOS of LL?

Gabriele Graves
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09-07-2008 13:35
From: Colette Meiji
While I don't think Gabi should have been expected to clairvoyantly known about Phil's mother's passing before the comment she made.

I do not think threats of future Mother jokes used against him have any place at all.
*sighs* That was a joke in itself, I have no intention of doing that at all.
Still because I am not a monster, Phil I apologise if that particular comment caused you distress.

Now how about you reciprocate and tell the truth that you know nothing about my RL?
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Gabriele Graves
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09-07-2008 13:36
From: Colette Meiji
:(

Please stop with that.
I am truly sorry. I got carried away but it is really getting irritating that he will not even tell the truth about the lies he told about me. Nevertheless you are right, stooping to his level is not right. It is easy to lose perspective also.
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Awnee Dawner
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09-07-2008 13:39
hey!

From: MortVent Charron
but reality is most shoppers are not going to go past a page or two

in my first days i thought a bestrankin shop is a shop with best products meanwhile ive learned that rankin has nothing to do with quality, and yes i clicked the shop with highest traffic
remember its 3-4 month ago

@ Gabriele Graves
where to go?
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Gabriele Graves
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09-07-2008 13:41
From: Awnee Dawner
hey!


in my first days i thought a bestrankin shop is a shop with best products meanwhile ive learned that rankin has nothing to do with quality, and yes i clicked the shop with highest traffic
remember its 3-4 month ago

@ Gabriele Graves
where to go?
Here is the link:

/327/85/252954/1369.html#post2139178
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Gabriele Graves
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09-07-2008 13:42
From: Rene Erlanger
and equally Bella, myself,Marcel and Lord Sullivan speak on the otherside of the equation
....that we don't really have strong feelings against the existance of Bots.

The bottom line....you can ban traffic bots......then you can welcome back mass AV camping. End result Places traffic is still being gamed
My opinion is that it does not necessarily have to be like that.
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09-07-2008 13:44
From: Gabriele Graves
You have one opinion, I have another and I am well versed in the history of things but this situation has never arisen before - not everything can be extrapolated from the past and so opinions are all we have.
Enforcement is popular at the moment with LL for a lot of things. Gambling, Banking, Ad Farming and even zoning will require it. It would not surprised me if LL is preparing some kind of in world security force to police the grid.



I can't reasonably argue you if now you're now introducing things like world security force
which goes against that LL has previously said in their own press statements ...it debases the notion of "your World, your imagination"

Lets start from scratch....do you accept mass camping existed before Traffic bot armies?
If you do accept that fact.......what impact did it have to Popular places and Places Search listing?
Do you think if i have set 50 camping pads on my SIM on which own and have a shop on....that Linden Labs will come along and tell me to stop paying my campers and remove those camping pads immediately?
Phil Deakins
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09-07-2008 13:44
From: Gabriele Graves
Funny that - you unearthed your dead mother into this thread. Now you cry, like a baby. Tell the truth and shame the devil ;) It is not too late even now despite your nastiness.
Alright. You win. I'll tell the truth.

You started the insults in this thread. You continued by belittling people in this thread. You got a slanging match with me because of it. During the slanging match you introduced my RL into it in the form of my dick. I introduced your RL into it, in the form of your face and shape. On all counts you are guilty as hell of being the first - of starting each aspect.

Happy now I've told the truth?

Oh, one more thing, your threat to use my dead mother against me in your posts is so shitty that no normal person could be anything but revulsed by it, especially after I told you that she is dead and I asked you nicely not to do it. I didn't judge you on it before I asked. You are judged on how you dealt with the request.

I think that's about it.

Btw, if I had an ugly face like yours, I think I'd top myself. I just couldn't live with it.
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Colette Meiji
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09-07-2008 13:45
From: Gabriele Graves
I am truly sorry. I got carried away but it is really getting irritating that he will not even tell the truth about the lies he told about me. Nevertheless you are right, stooping to his level is not right. It is easy to lose perspective also.


We all know he lied about your RL self. Yes its very pathetic he wont admit it.

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I don't think he understood you comment about his "size" was related to Chip's comment about him compensating for something by bragging.

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Which in turn was completely justified since Phil called Chip a dickhead not long ago.

And Phil has issued more personal attacks than I think anyone ever has on these forums. By a good margin.

So your anger is understandable

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Just went too far is all.
Gabriele Graves
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09-07-2008 13:51
From: Phil Deakins
Alright. You win. I'll tell the truth.

You started the insults in this thread. You continued by belittling people in this thread. You got a slanging match with me because of it. During the slanging match you introduced my RL in for form of my dick. I introduced you RL in the fom of your face and shape. On all counts you are guilty as hell.

Happy now I've told the truth?

Oh, one more thing, your threat to use my dead mother against me in your posts is so shitty that no normal person could be anyhting but revulsed.

I think that's about it.

Btw, if I had an ugly face like yours, I think I'd top myself.
LMAO You are absolutely unbeleivable. Why bother wasting your time typing in crap you know if false.
Even if you cannot accept that my comments were general (and really I get to choose what I meant) then it is without doubt you lied saying someone had told you things about my RL. Yet you cling to this crap. The mind boggles. Still it is up to you, you are the one who wanted it this way. It is your choice to stop it.
Say without twists or wriggling and without nastiness that you lied and actgually know nothing about my RL and nobody came and told you anything about my RL and I will gladly desist.

Do you actually think I am enjoying this? No far from it, but I you are calling the shots here, I have laid out what I am prepared to do quite candidly and reasonably. Hell I have even apologised for one of the comments I made. Now its your turn and we can all go home.
I think I am being pretty reasonable considering all the threats (bodily threats), promises of vendetta's, RL lies and other assorted torments you still are saying.
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09-07-2008 13:51
From: Phil Deakins
And keyword stuffing is where? ;)

You can call it abuse if you like - the rest of the world calls it search engine spam. There is nothing abusive about keyword stuffing, for instance.


Let's ask Google...
http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=66358
From: http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=66358

"Keyword stuffing" refers to the practice of loading a webpage with keywords in an attempt to manipulate a site's ranking in Google's search results. Filling pages with keywords results in a negative user experience, and can harm your site's ranking. Focus on creating useful, information-rich content that uses keywords appropriately and in context.

To fix this problem, review your site for misused keywords. Typically, these will be lists or paragraphs of keywords, often randomly repeated. Check carefully, because keywords can often be in the form of hidden text, or they can be hidden in title tags or alt attributes.

Once you've made your changes and are confident that your site no longer violates our webmaster guidelines, submit your site for reconsideration.


That's pretty clear.
Your "rest of the world" might call it raspberry jello. but Google takes a dim view of it.


Let's ask Wikipedia - not an absolutely infallible source, but generally a good guide
QUOTE=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyword_stuffing
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyword_stuffing

Keyword stuffing is considered to be an unethical search engine optimization (SEO) technique. Keyword stuffing occurs when a web page is loaded with keywords in the meta tags or in content. The repetition of words in meta tags may explain why many search engines no longer use these tags.

Keyword stuffing had been used in the past to obtain maximum search engine ranking and visibility for particular phrases. This method is completely outdated and adds no value to rankings today. In particular, Google no longer gives good rankings to pages employing this technique.



You and your ilk, using traffic bots, pick buying, and any other attempts to game search systems are regarded as abusers.
Your "rest of the world" are a small lonely band of sociopaths.
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Gabriele Graves
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09-07-2008 13:53
From: Colette Meiji
We all know he lied about your RL self. Yes its very pathetic he wont admit it.

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I don't think he understood you comment about his "size" was related to Chip's comment about him compensating for something by bragging.

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Which in turn was completely justified since Phil called Chip a dickhead not long ago.

And Phil has issued more personal attacks than I think anyone ever has on these forums. By a good margin.

So your anger is understandable

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Just went too far is all.
Thank you Colette, despite what is said about you, you are actually a very level headed and reasonable person, far more so than I. I appreciate you giving me a nudge and helping me realise it has gone too far.
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Phil Deakins
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09-07-2008 13:54
From: Gabriele Graves
LMAO You are absolutely unbeleivable. Why bother wasting your time typing in crpa you know if false.
Even if you cannot accept that my comments were general (and really I get to choose what I meant) then it is without doubt you lied saying someone had told you things about my RL. Yet you cling to this crap. The mind boggles. Still it is up to you, you are the one who wanted it this way. It is your choice to stop it.
Say without twists or wriggling and without nastiness that you lied and actgually know nothing about my RL and nobody came and told you anything about my RL and I will gladly desist.

Do you actually think I am enjoying this? No far from it, but I you are calling the shots here, I have laid out what I am prepared to do quite candidly and reasonably. Hell I have even apologised for one of the comments I made. Now its your turn and we can all go home.
I think I am being pretty reasonable considering all the threats (bodily threats), promises of vendetta's, RL lies and other assorted torments you still are saying.
I type because you are piece of lying shit. Nothing you can say now will change anything back in the thread. Not only are you a lying piece of shit, but you are an ugly lying piece of shit with a nature that is beneath contempt.

[added]
You apologised for something? Where? I missed it.
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Gabriele Graves
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09-07-2008 13:55
From: Phil Deakins
I type because you are piece of lying shit. Nothing you can say now will change anything back in the thread. Not only are you a lying piece of shit, but you are an ugly lying piece of shit with a nature that is beneath contempt.
Change the record, calling someone a liar from your position is just making you look even more of an idiot than you have made of yourself already.
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Gabriele Graves
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09-07-2008 13:58
From: Rene Erlanger
I can't reasonably argue you if now you're now introducing things like world security force
which goes against that LL has previously said in their own press statements ...it debases the notion of "your World, your imagination"

Lets start from scratch....do you accept mass camping existed before Traffic bot armies?
If you do accept that fact.......what impact did it have to Popular places and Places Search listing?
Do you think if i have set 50 camping pads on my SIM on which own and have a shop on....that Linden Labs will come along and tell me to stop paying my campers and remove those camping pads immediately?
Look if you want a discussion, leave out the condescention and lets discuss this properly because right now you are acting like an asshole just like Phil.
You may not like my opinions or agree with them but the scorn you are pouring over them is unwarranted and just shows you to be pathetic and not really interested in discussion.

Come back when you are ready to discuss properly.
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Phil Deakins
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09-07-2008 14:00
From: Gabriele Graves
Still because I am not a monster, Phil I apologise if that particular comment caused you distress.

Now how about you reciprocate and tell the truth that you know nothing about my RL?
I didn't see even this post until you mentioned apologising. Does this mean that you won't now carry out your threats of using my mother in posts regardless of whether I admit anything or not? If it does, we can stop this right now.
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Phil Deakins
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09-07-2008 14:01
From: Gabriele Graves
Look if you want a discussion, leave out the condescention and lets discuss this because right now you are acting like and asshole just like Phil.
I am acting like someone who is offended beyond words at threats to use his dead mother in posts against him. See my previous post.
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Gabriele Graves
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09-07-2008 14:06
From: Phil Deakins
I didn't see even this post until you mentioned apologising. Does this mean that you won't now carry out your threats of using my mother in posts regardless of whether I admit anything or not? If it does, we can stop this right now.
Yes it does. Though if you were any sort of human being you would not have brought this to this point and you would admit you told lies about me.
You have no right to be outraged when you have committed so many outrages against me and others here.
You don't care what hurt you do others but the story changes when you are hurting.
You should be deeply ashamed of yourself and your behaviours but I know that appealing to your common decency is likely to be met with more abuse from you.
I don't mind being wrong about that though.
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09-07-2008 14:06
i`ll give you all a suggestion that i`ve only started taking shortly (should have listend to it along time ago)

drop this thread as you all look bad
trying to discuss bots with what has been said (by all) will only keep returning to insulting/flaming eachother again and again

you`ll only eat your self up if not quitting, not to mention the consiquences if LL does follow up on AR`s sent by each other...


feel free to insult and flame eachother in a personal vandetta if not, last post from me in this thread
Phil Deakins
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09-07-2008 14:15
From: Gabriele Graves
Yes it does. Though if you were any sort of human being you would not have brought this to this point and you would admit you told lies about me.
You have no right to be outraged when you have committed so many outrages against me and others here.
You don't care what hurt you do others but the story changes when you are hurting.
You should be deeply ashamed of yourself and your behaviours but I know that appealing to your common decency is likely to be met with more abuse from you.
I don't mind being wrong about that though.
I am in no way ashamed of myself for stating the truth about what is in this thread, and about who started each part of where it went wrong. I can't get away with lies about because it's all still there.

Of course I lied about your face and shape, just as your suggestions about my rl dick were make believe. On the latter, there really are RL girls who use SL who can testify from their own experiences that what you suggested simply isn't true ;)

I'll repeat what I said earlier. I didn't blame you for the mother things. I only blamed you for the way you dealt with my request about them. It was callous, and I was really incensed by it.

Now, if you want to stop the slanging match, I am happy to do that.
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09-07-2008 14:15
Every boy's best friend is his mother.





Gabriele Graves
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09-07-2008 14:19
From: Phil Deakins
I am in no way ashamed of myself for stating the truth about what is in this thread, and about who started each part of where it went wrong. I can't get away with lies about because it's all still there.

Of course I lied about your face and shape, just as your suggestions about my rl dick were make believe. On the latter, there really are RL girls who use SL who can testify from their own experiences that what you suggested simply isn't true ;)

I'll repeat what I said earlier. I didn't blame you for the mother things. I only blamed you for the way you dealt with my request about them. It was callous, and I was really incensed by it.

Now, if you want to stop the slanging match, I am happy to do that.
Yes I can be callous, just as you was over my request to stop calling me "Love". Did it occur to you how creeped out you have made me feel throughout this? and how unable to post I feel I am? The bodily threats and promise of vendetta are still outstanding - what is your intentions as regards those?
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09-07-2008 14:25
From: Phil Deakins
I am in no way ashamed of myself for stating the truth about what is in this thread, and about who started each part of where it went wrong. I can't get away with lies about because it's all still there.



There is still the fact that of all the posters I have seen in my three years on these forums, you perform the most personal attacks.







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Rebbecca that post really didn't help anything
Phil Deakins
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09-07-2008 14:25
From: Gabriele Graves
Yes I can be callous, just as you was over my request to stop calling me "Love".
That was intended to get up your nose in a mild way. I'm sorry.

From: Gabriele Graves
Did it occur to you how creeped out you have made me feel throughout this? and how unable to post I feel I am?
No. Sorry. You were giving as good as you got, and I'd no idea that you felt like that.

From: Gabriele Graves
The bodily threats and promise of vendetta are still outstanding - what is your intentions as regards those?
No intentions at all. There's nothing I could do. It was blurted out at the height of my being incensed. I'd actually lost it at that point. Glibly saying things like, "bring it on and I'll bring out all the mommy jokes. I have 8 hours left today." can cause feelings that generate empty threats like that in these particular circumstances.
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Ciaran Laval
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09-07-2008 14:27
This thread has gotten real silly.

A couple of things, cutting your plot into 16M parcels isn't cheating the system, if one chooses to do that it's upto them but the traffic figure will be squished.

Prim stuffing, if you're using vendors then search doesn't look in vendors so prim stuffing makes sense. if you're using search terms in the description of your buildings then I don't see the issue with that either, you're just telling people what's on your parcel.
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09-07-2008 14:28
From: Colette Meiji


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Rebbecca that post really didn't help anything



Maybe not but that's what came to mind and I thought i'd inject some dark humor.
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