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Phil Deakins
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Join date: 17 Jan 2007
Posts: 9,537
09-07-2008 10:55
From: Gabriele Graves
LMAO I think these are the nicest things you have ever said to me - *sniff* I am touched, but obviously not as touched as you.
Give me something to work with, dammit. Or are you fresh out of real stupidities?
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Gabriele Graves
Always and Forever, FULL
Join date: 23 Apr 2007
Posts: 6,205
09-07-2008 10:56
From: Phil Deakins
Give me something to work with, dammit. Or are you fresh out of real stupidities?
Oh Phil, I love it when you talk bollocks!!!
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Trout Rating: I'm giving you an 8.2 on the Troutchter Earth-Movement Slut Scale. You are an amazing, enchanting woman, and, when the situation calls for it, a slut of the very best sort. Congratulations and shame on you!
Phil Deakins
Prim Savers = low prims
Join date: 17 Jan 2007
Posts: 9,537
09-07-2008 10:58
From: MortVent Charron
Phil a refusal to show evidence is admitting to most there is nothing to show.
Mort, do try to be sensible. Refusal to go and get the evidence may be interpreted in the way you say, but it is not an admission of anything.

From: MortVent Charron
By not showing the evidence you set yourself up for looking like a jerk who claims things he can't prove.
Whatever. She knows, and that's alright with me.

From: MortVent Charron
Any argument based on evidence you can not provide, well that is not going to work so well now is it?
She knows, and that's alright with me. I don't care about other people.

From: MortVent Charron
It doesn't work in a court of law, or the court of public opinion.
Public opinion is of no interest to me. I thought you knew that.
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Phil Deakins
Prim Savers = low prims
Join date: 17 Jan 2007
Posts: 9,537
09-07-2008 10:58
From: Gabriele Graves
Oh Phil, I love it when you talk bollocks!!!
Oh good. I makes you feel comfortable that you're not the only one, does it? ;)
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Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices.

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Gabriele Graves
Always and Forever, FULL
Join date: 23 Apr 2007
Posts: 6,205
09-07-2008 10:58
From: Phil Deakins
Mort, do try to be sensible. Refusal to go and get the evidence may be interpreted in the way you say, but it is not an admission of anything.

Whatever. She knows, and that's alright with me.

She knows, and that's alright with me. I don't care about other people.

Public opinion is of no interest to me. I thought you knew that.
I know you are a lunatic.
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Trout Rating: I'm giving you an 8.2 on the Troutchter Earth-Movement Slut Scale. You are an amazing, enchanting woman, and, when the situation calls for it, a slut of the very best sort. Congratulations and shame on you!
Gabriele Graves
Always and Forever, FULL
Join date: 23 Apr 2007
Posts: 6,205
09-07-2008 11:00
From: Phil Deakins
Oh good. I makes you feel comfortable that you're not the only one, does it? ;)
No Phil, you don't make me feel comfortable at all - just creeped out - constantly. People with vendetta's tend to do that to me. Especially Momma's boys who just might be stalker material too. Very creepy.
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Trout Rating: I'm giving you an 8.2 on the Troutchter Earth-Movement Slut Scale. You are an amazing, enchanting woman, and, when the situation calls for it, a slut of the very best sort. Congratulations and shame on you!
Phil Deakins
Prim Savers = low prims
Join date: 17 Jan 2007
Posts: 9,537
09-07-2008 11:01
From: Gabriele Graves
No Phil, you don't make me feel comfortable at all - just creeped out - constantly. People with vendetta's tend to do that to me. Especially Momma's boys who just might be stalker material too. Very creepy.
Well I'd rather be that than fat and ugly like you (somebody told me you are). At least I get a good social life ;)
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Gabriele Graves
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Join date: 23 Apr 2007
Posts: 6,205
09-07-2008 11:03
From: Phil Deakins
Well I'd rather be that than fat and ugly like you. At least I get a good social life ;)
LMAO I think you should prove that claim at the very least. How are you going to spin away from this one Phil?

Someone told you I am? ROFLMAO - now I know everything you have ever said and claimed must be a complete an utter lie. Nobody in SL nor on the forums knows what I look like for real or what social life I have. You have no credibility left - at all. I would at this point not trust you to tell the time.

Get that ferrit from up your ass and try to act like a real human being for once.

You know absolutely zero about me other that what you think you know from the forums, however my comments are based upon your own words. How ironic - hoisted by your own petard I would say.
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Trout Rating: I'm giving you an 8.2 on the Troutchter Earth-Movement Slut Scale. You are an amazing, enchanting woman, and, when the situation calls for it, a slut of the very best sort. Congratulations and shame on you!
Phil Deakins
Prim Savers = low prims
Join date: 17 Jan 2007
Posts: 9,537
09-07-2008 11:05
From: Gabriele Graves
LMAO I think you should prove that claim at the very least. How are you going to spin away from this one Phil?

You know absolutely zero about me other that what you think you know from the forums, however my comments are based upon your own words. How ironic - hoisted by your own petard I would say.
I don't need to spin away from it. I trust the person who told me. You are fat and ugly in RL. It's good enough for me.
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http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/
Phil Deakins
Prim Savers = low prims
Join date: 17 Jan 2007
Posts: 9,537
09-07-2008 11:07
From: Gabriele Graves
You know absolutely zero about me other that what you think you know from the forums, however my comments are based upon your own words. How ironic - hoisted by your own petard I would say.
Sneaky! Your comments are lies and have nothing to do with any of my words. You're just a retard who can't stand being wrong. And that's surprising because you have had so much experience of it.
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Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices.

http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/
Gabriele Graves
Always and Forever, FULL
Join date: 23 Apr 2007
Posts: 6,205
09-07-2008 11:07
From: Phil Deakins
I don't need to spin away from it. I trust the person who told me. You are fat and ugly in RL. It's good enough for me.
So finally your true colours are out - you will smear a person with lies. At least find something true about me to smear me with. You are losing credibility by the second.

I don't think I can recall anyone in the history of these forums as far as I have read that has resorted to what you have claimed.

Even if I was as you say - think I would care? I am still a thousand times a better person than you.
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Trout Rating: I'm giving you an 8.2 on the Troutchter Earth-Movement Slut Scale. You are an amazing, enchanting woman, and, when the situation calls for it, a slut of the very best sort. Congratulations and shame on you!
Gabriele Graves
Always and Forever, FULL
Join date: 23 Apr 2007
Posts: 6,205
09-07-2008 11:09
From: Phil Deakins
Sneaky! Your comments are lies and have nothing to do with any of my words.
So you are not saying that your Momma's says you are always right after all? Are you saying that you did not declare open season on me here in these forum posts? That is a vendetta. The only extra I gave as opinion is the extrapolation that you might be a stalker too.

Where did I not use your own claims if not your own words?
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Trout Rating: I'm giving you an 8.2 on the Troutchter Earth-Movement Slut Scale. You are an amazing, enchanting woman, and, when the situation calls for it, a slut of the very best sort. Congratulations and shame on you!
Phil Deakins
Prim Savers = low prims
Join date: 17 Jan 2007
Posts: 9,537
09-07-2008 11:09
From: Gabriele Graves
So finally your true colours are out - you will smear a person with lies. At least find something true about me to smear me with. You are losing credibility by the second.
Lies? what lies? you mean the ones you wrote? next you'll be blaming me that you're ugly.

From: Gabriele Graves
Even if I was as you say - think I would care? I am still a thousand times a better person than you.
Only a deluded person could possibly think that, so I understand you thinking it ;)
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Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices.

http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/
Gabriele Graves
Always and Forever, FULL
Join date: 23 Apr 2007
Posts: 6,205
09-07-2008 11:11
From: Phil Deakins
Lies? what lies? you mean the ones you wrote? next you'll be blaming me that you're ugly.

Only a deluded person could possibly think that, so I understand you thinking it ;)
There only ugliness here is you Phil, I don't care what you look like I know how ugly inside you are from what you post. I would rather be externally ugly everyday than be ugly like you.
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Trout Rating: I'm giving you an 8.2 on the Troutchter Earth-Movement Slut Scale. You are an amazing, enchanting woman, and, when the situation calls for it, a slut of the very best sort. Congratulations and shame on you!
Phil Deakins
Prim Savers = low prims
Join date: 17 Jan 2007
Posts: 9,537
09-07-2008 11:11
From: Gabriele Graves
So you are not saying that your Momma's says you are always right after all? Are you saying that you did not declare open season on me here in these forum posts? That is a vendetta. The only extra I gave as opinion is the extrapolation that you might be a stalker too.
You should read that post again, and stop lying about it. If I'm having a vendetta against you, you deserve it. What can I say? You started it, you're reaping it.
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Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices.

http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/
Phil Deakins
Prim Savers = low prims
Join date: 17 Jan 2007
Posts: 9,537
09-07-2008 11:12
From: Gabriele Graves
I would rather be externally ugly everyday than be ugly like you.
Then you have your wish :)
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Colette Meiji
Registered User
Join date: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 15,556
09-07-2008 11:13
From: Chip Midnight
Otherwise corporations aren't going to want to deal with all the BS or they'll just want their own private walled gardens for internal company use.


Kind of like when Companies in Real Life set up business in Countries where outlaws and rebels are common.
Gabriele Graves
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Join date: 23 Apr 2007
Posts: 6,205
09-07-2008 11:14
From: Phil Deakins
Then you have your wish :)
LMAO You don't even know anyone I know *in* SL, let alone RL. I bet you wish you did. Perhaps I was too close to the mark about that penis - I mean seriously all those bots and the need to win so bad must be compensating for something.
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Trout Rating: I'm giving you an 8.2 on the Troutchter Earth-Movement Slut Scale. You are an amazing, enchanting woman, and, when the situation calls for it, a slut of the very best sort. Congratulations and shame on you!
Phil Deakins
Prim Savers = low prims
Join date: 17 Jan 2007
Posts: 9,537
09-07-2008 11:18
From: Gabriele Graves
LMAO You don't even know anyone I know *in* SL, let alone RL. I bet you wish you did. Perhaps I was too close to the mark about that penis - I mean seriously all those bots and the need to win so bad must be compensating for something.
Maybe they do, and I take thousands of US$ out of SL every month without fail. By comparison, you are an utter failure, as well as ugly. As for my dick, there are girls in SL who are able to confirm that your guess is so untrue ;)
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Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices.

http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/
Colette Meiji
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Join date: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 15,556
09-07-2008 11:19
From: Phil Deakins
Oh no. That honour belongs to Colette.


Oh please, by all appearances your definition of "troll" is anyone who disagrees with you.


From: Phil Deakins
Hold back the tears. You are still one the 2 in my ignore list. I only see anything you write when someone quote it.


Learn to ignore better


From: Phil Deakins
And you are a bucket of shit, full of pseudo morality, and grossly lacking in intelligence. It's a genuine pleasure to look down on you - and laugh at you. Sad, deluded person.


The sweety love condescending approach must have been taking too long I guess, huh Phil?
Colette Meiji
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Posts: 15,556
09-07-2008 11:20
From: Ciaran Laval
That's the point we're making. 16M parcels with banlines have started to be successfuly AR'd even before this announcement, I've AR'd them before to no effect. However now there are reports that successful AR's have been made against them.

The existing TOS can be used in many ways, one day something isn't visible spam, next it is. One day bot farms aren't deemed to be draining resources, the next they could be. The TOS doesn't need to change to make this so.


Adfarms had been around longer than Trafficbots.
Gabriele Graves
Always and Forever, FULL
Join date: 23 Apr 2007
Posts: 6,205
09-07-2008 11:22
From: Phil Deakins
Maybe they do, and I take thousands of US$ out of SL every month without fail. By comparison, you are an utter failure, as well as ugly. As for my dick, there are girls in SL who are able to confirm that your guess is so untrue ;)
SL girls? I was not talking about SL girls or your prim penis lol. So I am a failure am I? How so - tell us all your impressive knowledge about me? No I really want to know. Don't hold back now just because I ask you.

Though you didn't have any - its all bullshit. You know nothing about me other than some things about my forum self and my SL self.

Hey it just occured to me that you must really be a stalker if you really do know stuff about me. Of course you got off to a really bad start with the false info in your first try.
I would to be proud to be fat, ugly and be a failure than be Phil Deakins. Thankfully I don't have to be those things.
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Trout Rating: I'm giving you an 8.2 on the Troutchter Earth-Movement Slut Scale. You are an amazing, enchanting woman, and, when the situation calls for it, a slut of the very best sort. Congratulations and shame on you!
Phil Deakins
Prim Savers = low prims
Join date: 17 Jan 2007
Posts: 9,537
09-07-2008 11:22
Just out of interest, Gabriele. If you'd stuck to discussuing the topic, instead of trying to put people down who continue to disagree with you, this slanging match wouldn't have happened. You really need to learn that, even though you are sure you are right, other people may continue to think you are not. You need to learn to aloow other people to have thier own opinions without feeling the need to put those people down.
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http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/
Colette Meiji
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Posts: 15,556
09-07-2008 11:24
From: Lord Sullivan
Wherever a loophole exists people will use it as we have seen with camping, ad farms and the bending of the gambling rules. The rights and wrongs of it are not up to us to decide, but for LL to decide as i see it maybe i'm wrong here but unless we have a vested financial interest in LL as a shareholder etc. we have no say in how LL runs its business.

As with all things however if we don't like it we can lobby (for want of a better word) LL and ask them to change it. However if they, LL, doesn't change it then perhaps we should look for another game that gives us as individuals what we want and percieve for the game. LL will maybe then change things if people start leaving in droves.

Maybe this is to simplistic but at the end of the day whats the point of whining about stuff when we can lobby LL and try and get things changed. Weather or not i agree with what Phil and others are doing, (and yes i run 3 bots for groups/land management) is besides the point, they are competing in a marketplace that LL have built by perhaps not looking fully at all the ramifications of it. We are in a developing and evolving environment and things are changing now as LL see things harming others, we now have an undertaking that they are removing ad farms, now maybe if people lobby and seek change in enough numbers then LL will maybe change the rules, however, personally i don't see bots disappearing from the grid but i hope that the search feature will be changed and traffic etc done away with at some point as imho its a fossil from a now bygone age for SL.

But these things happen only with reasoned debate not trolling or name calling, thats the sort of behavior i would expect to see on the teen grid not here in the "Adult" Grid :) Maybe if people lobby LL then things will change but then again maybe they wont who knows but i am personally happy to be part of this great changing frontier of the internet with all its problems :) Remember though Rome wasn't built in a day ;)



Your version of the "stop whining" post is nicer than most.

There is another answer though, please don't take it harshly.

Those who do not wish to read anti-criticism do not have to!

Simply don't open the anti-trafficbot threads.

See? Then people can whine about what they want, and it wont bother anyone who doesnt want to read it.
Gabriele Graves
Always and Forever, FULL
Join date: 23 Apr 2007
Posts: 6,205
09-07-2008 11:24
From: Phil Deakins
Just out of interest, Gabriele. If you'd stuck to discussuing the topic, instead of trying to put people down who continue to disagree with you, this slanging match wouldn't have happened. You really need to learn that, even though you are sure you are right, other people may continue to think you are not. You need to learn to aloow other people to have thier own opinions without feeling the need to put those people down.
I did go back on topic, as I have done several times in the past but you chose to derail it again. You wanted this - you even said that you are enjoying it - you get what you wanted. What's up don't you like it anymore?

I don't even know how you can say the stuff you do about putting people down with a straight face. At least I know when I am doing it - and when I do it - I do it deliberately. You just seem totally oblivious to your own behaviour. Or are you really deluded that other people saying the same things to you are really just wrong as well?
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Trout Rating: I'm giving you an 8.2 on the Troutchter Earth-Movement Slut Scale. You are an amazing, enchanting woman, and, when the situation calls for it, a slut of the very best sort. Congratulations and shame on you!
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