Sales plumeting?

ty for the kind words tab...

The entire economy of the world is staggering and people are surprised that SL sales are slumping?

A lot of basements must not get CNN

My Partner and I went over to Orchid Dreams tonight (one of the best known designers of Japanese kimonos and other clothing items) because they are closing tomorrow.

Anyway, in the shoe department, they had this giant-sized shoe in the corner that we thought was a hoot...so we both jumped on and took photos with us posing on the giant shoe.

Errmmm...that made sense when I started typing it...oh, right...interesting things people do with their stores.

And then there's the post where she was taking her remaining 900L, donating it and leaving SL so content creators can scam others.

ROFL

sounds like you had fun

I wonder why she doing that.

It was probably just a shot out of the frustration of not being agreed with by so many people. She did come across as being quite young - my dad did this, my cousin does that, and I've bought and sold a few things on eBay at a good profit (earlier described as having been an antique dealer), therefore I'm an expert and, if you don't agree with me, you haven't a clue. If she'd hung around the forums more, she would have known for certain that I'm always right, and been prepared to accept it

Eme is a friend of mine, her creations are amazing. I am so sad to see she is closing her store Her stuff is truely stunning. She actually understands traditional japanese clothing and tried to re create it.

Ohh and I am the reason for her line of short kimonos I requested a custom short kimono and let her create others to sell but I have it in purple

Im going to miss her prety stuffs

Why is she closing the store?

RL keeps stealing her from SL

I tried to warn her not to argue with you, but..... oh well, live and learn.

You did indeed - one of the proudest moments of my life - brought a tear to my eye

Ooooo...I was looking at the short kimonos last night thinking "Now that's interesting." They are cute! I brought home her new argyle sweater-cape (forgot what she called it, but very stylish looking), a pair of beautifully-textured ballet-type slippers and the fat pack of ankle-length boots (purchased by my Partner for me as an early Christmas gift while I was agonizing over which color to get *smiles*).

I'm going to miss that store too. When my alt was in training to be a geisha, the first thing my okasan told me (errrrrr..."her" was to join the Orchid Dreams group and go over there regularly.

Correct. As far as getting po'd at people in this thread, it was a lot of ridiculous splitting hairs over my inappropriate "terminology".

I was merely relating some suggestions from what I've experienced in my rl during slow business times. However, this current economic environment is probably the slowest most of us will experience in our lifetime. It's going to go from bad to very bad. (Very bad, an understatement, not sure yet. None of us truly know yet how bad it is going to get.) So I merely suggested some ideas to increase profit growth as well as what consumers have to deal with since the basic no refund policy of SL, which can be very frustrating. No you may lose a potential future customer due to many reasons, some of which are, not returning IM's, badly constructed items with missings parts or item missing altogether in the folder and the SL consumer has no council to bring their grievances too.

However, the attitudes of some of the designers in this thread were downright mean, snide, pompous, among other adjectives I can't think of at the moment over mostly terminology.

If you don't like someones suggestions on any thread of this forum, just pass them by but don't be snide, rude, pompous in the way you word your posts.

Many of us are at fault for doing that in this thread and it's time to try to get back on the right foot with each other.

I apologize for my part. But again, my point of view, merely came with ideas to help not hurt, though I have been hurt in my pocketbook and have no recourse to retrieve my monies but perhaps that is a topic all of it's own. What it boils down to is what you buy via a photograph is not what it's going to actually look like in it's 3D form, so you take your chances as to your desired outcome. And I did say before, 50% of the time I found the actual 3D item bought from a photograph better than expected, and the other 50% a disappoint, if not shoddy workmanship by having missing parts. So yes, I have been doing some research on a variety of SL designers since the SL consumer is buying items with no quality control SL department whatsoever. That is real money I've lost, and I will learn to be a lot more picky if not shied away from buying altogether which I kind of am at the moment. I'm sure a lot of people go through this from time to time. My future spending on SL may be finding one or two designers I get to know on SL and pretty much use them exclusively? In short, I don't enjoy flushing money down the toilet!

Whenever i've bought and complained, i've been compensated.

Simple rules, if you're not sure, contact the creator first and ask for it to be modelled and ask about refund policy.

Same as RL... Caveat Emptor!!

Now...about the creator name of those boots cos i'm interested too... and yes i'll bite, i'll come and see them inworld on you and the glitch pants.

/me peeks in and asks politely for the name of the boots you have had so much trouble with.

Seriously there are some very skilled creators here who may actually be able to help you fit things to your avie which is far from an easy feat, particularly if like me you have an unusual avie.

IF you are having troubles with so many pairs of boots then I do think it is likely a fitting issue.

Maybe Avawyn has cankles.

Avawyn.

LL does not have a "no refund" policy in SL, and their quality control dept. isn't missing. Neither is there either of those in RL. SL is a world and RL is a world, neither of which have the ability to implement a "no refund" policy or a quality control dept. on what is sold.

If you treat SL as a world, just like RL, you will buy where the store offers a refund policy, and you will also buy where you feel confident of the quality; e.g. by first seeing their clothing on friends and aquaintances.

But you should understand why very few stores have a refund policy. In the SL world, it is too easy the cheat stores and store owners are not very keen on being cheated. For instance, many clothing stores sell their goods with the copy permission so that outfits can be made up in their own folders (RL stores can't do that), and it is too easy to return the item for a refund, for whatever reason, having made and kept a copy. It's probably very rare for a store that sells copyable items to give refunds - and neither should they.

Such cheating also happens in RL where people buy clothes for an occasion, use them, and then return them with some sort of false fault, or because it's within the store's time frame for refunds. In SL, cheating would be much more prevalent, so stores don't tend to leave themselves open to it.

There are other ways to easily steal from SL stores, so SL isn't exactly like RL, and some RL business practises are not suitable for SL.

You need to get away from the idea that SL business should be the same as RL business, and just do what everyone else is happy with.

Ec has cankles and can make boots fit

the thing is no one was snide to you, until you decided to treat us as though we were idiots who knew nothing about the very thing we are doing.

We ALL tried to explain to you that doing things in SL for a business that you would do in RL just do not always work, AND we even tried to explain it to you

you got defensive instead of saying, oh I did not know that, thank you

then you decided to be snotty with a cheap shot at me claiming you were going to spend money at my store but decided not to (still not sure why you even said that, cuz I am sure there are a lot of folks that plan to spend money somewhere and change their minds)

THEN you decided to insult us all with your comments about how we are all bad and hope that our businesses fail and if they do we deserve it (paraphrasing)

I wish you luck with whatever you decide to do, be it SL or RL or both

I think that you absolutely have to do something to get shoppers to spend a few minutes in your store. There are so many hundreds (thousands?) of generic vendor-board stores in SL - to expect someone to look at your products when you just look like them is wildly optimistic.

You HAVE to market your space, which means make people looking at it think "Hmm, this is a place where I can get something that I want". That means putting things that you sell in context, and showing in a very obvious way the level of style that your goods show.

The most effective thing to do, of course, is to actually have your items rezzed (or temp-rezzed) - allow people to cam around the item, and actually see it in-world, rather than pictures. Or, of course, provide demos, if that is practical (not possible for some goods).

Does it cost you prims? Yes, of course it does. But if you want to be a "cut above the rest" it's the price of doing business.

This whole thing of things not fitting correctly and not looking as good in world as they do in some photos is exactly why im a freebie fiend. I religiously check out the free items offered by top designers pretty much daily. I take it all home, try it on, delete what i dont like and keep what i do. In most cases i will return to the store of the items i liked and buy some. That is my method for doing my own quality assurance and getting what i want.

and this is the very reason I decided to put out freebies that are actual samples (not demo's) of the item for sale. usually a few pieces from the package or a color not for sale.

This way folks can try it on, and if they like it, and want a color different than the one they purchased, they can come back and get it.

Usually I make the system clothing layers on the samples no mod, but on the for sale ones, they are mod. The reason for the no mod on the sample is so they can not change the color thus bypassing the need to purchase the color of their choice.
Prim parts (if I remember to) are set as mod