Sales plumeting?

No, no, no.. $60 for many pairs of boots. Ripped off, huh? Oh. But, that doesn't explain the skirts.

Drop me an IM as to what times you will be online. I won't be back online 'til oh say 3 SLT today or therabouts. Have a business meeting today also, so that rl issue comes first today. Let me know so we can set up a time where I can wear a pair of the boots (without the socks I made) and the skirt without glitch pants, as I haven't even made them yet so they don't exist anyhow.

/me rolls my eyes. I dont want to see the items you have modified. That would make no sense. I want to see the items in store and then see if i can fit them. If i can they it is an issue with your modifying skills not with the craftmanship.

As for the skirt without the glitch pants... do you just read what you want to?? honestly. Like i said, just becuase you dont like that look doesnt make them badly made.It makes them a style you dont like. I have a whole folder called prims skirts -undie friendly. That is the type of skirt your whinging about cos you dont like the style choice the designer chose.

When you say Quality Control, do you suggest LL should be responsible for what each vendor sells? That doesn't make a lot of sense. The sellers themselves control what they sell, and what return policies , if any there are any. If a seller is not of acceptable quality, you simply don't shop there.

I'm sorry you've had such bad experiences with SL designers...but then, perhaps it was the attitude you came across with when you IM'd them.

I have been on SL for a bit over a year now and when various issues came up with a product I purchased, without fail EVERY SINGLE designer I contacted not only made the issue right, but included a gift or something extra as well.

Yes, there are the occasional idiots in any realm, and perhaps that is who you have been doing business with, but as I said, I have never had any problems in approaching designers.

Sorry Rha, of course you are right. My translation was not clear. I actually knew that "prim shorts " was wrong, but omitted the directional indicator.

Pep ("Prim shorts" => "Glitch pants"

avawyn...creators do not cap their own im's. that happens when they get so many ims in a period of time that LL will no longer allow them to have more sent to their email. the best course of action if you are unhappy with something is to very nicely send a notecard with your concern to the creator and then wait for their response. as you may know, many folks in the northeast us have lost power due to an ice storm, so i know that many have not been online for going on a week.

also, if you send someone an im or a notecard and they do not respond it could simply be that they did not get the msg. it does not mean they are rude or unresponsive. best to try several times and possibly even go to their store to see if you can speak with them in person.

i was just in my store and had a customer come in who had purchased a large number of items and was having trouble modding them as she needed them...so i happily went to her home and helped her with them. lots of us are like that..smile

To the best of my knowledge, mine are always sent to my email - the capping occurs when I log in. SL doesn't show them all to me at that time.

For Avawyn:
Not all sellers have their IMs sent to them by email, so Jojo's advice is good.

phil i seem to miss them coming into my email also...maybe its just me lol

yes but. the models adjust themselves too...

in RL if you have legs like giant radishes and you cant zip up the boots.. the manufacturer wont remake the boot for you.. you gotto adjust yourself..

same thing in sl .. make a less chunky shape for boot wearing you .. and a smaller butt shaped you for skirt wearing you ..
IMHO booties are way too big on a lot of ppl.
also Zero sized feeties are a must.

great thing about SL .. you wont need the gastric bypass to slender yourself down.

other than that .. most of what else you write just doesnt make much sense to me.

the best post so far today by far was the chicken salt.

Dunno. It may be me who hasn't noticed some not making it to email.

I do know that email is sometimes a problem. For a period of time not long ago, no email replies that I sent got through.

Even when your IM's cap, they are *supposed* to go to email, but I've had IM's that I got once I logged in that hadn't gone to email, which makes me wonder if there are some that just float off into the virtual aether altogether. I am generally online enough though that I don't really get capped messages too too often.

LOL you never intended to be a customer of mine or phil's

do you honestly think I am going to lose sleep over it? or that I am upset?

and for the record the customer is NOT always right... I do not believe that never have, never will

however I do believe the customer deserves respect, until they treat me like crap then customer or not, they get it back



and I suppose you think this comment was nice??

well since I am one of the designers you have encountered here, I took that comment personally, and when someone attacks me and makes comments saying that my sales will plummet and it would be deserved... I take that personally as an attack... and when someone attacks me, I attack back

you thought my previous posts were not nice... try getting on my bad side....
(which by the way, you are not on yet... but walking on thin ice and very close, with you insulting comments)

you have insulted a lot of nice, intelligent people in this thread, people that could have helped you with your idea, instead you treat us all like we are stupid morons who know nothing about the very thing we do, something which is obvious that you yourself do not do, and that is create, and run an SL business (be it an hobby or RL income, it is still an SL business)

heh

no worries, just did not want to confuse people is all

E she is not going to post the name of the boot, the designer name, the store name, none of that, because she doesn't want to be proven wrong...

I would not hold my breath for the name of that boot, designer, or store

(and I would say according to the TOD, naming the store and the boot name would be perfectly acceptable, as this is for us to help with the modding issue)

even one pair of boots would be a help....

but don't expect it

Honestly neither do I. She is out to provethat she is right and any chance that any of us could makethe boot fit would of course prove her wrong.

However I will continue asking. Mainly becuase she is saying all the pairs of boots she has purchased have this problem, which means either she is buying inferior crappy boots (which maybe one pair would make sense, but not $60 US worth) or she just doesnt know hot to mod items, in particular individual prims to fit her avie shape (much more likely).

The simple fact of the matter is she is either shopping in BIAB re sell stores and buying that junk for inflated priace or she has such high standards no one will please her, ar at the very least the very few stores that make items exactly to her personal preferences and have a shape very similar to hers

I buy stuff most days on SL, including prim items. I have a podgy avie. She is probably about a size 16. So she is a little plus sized short arse avie. I have to mod almost EVERYTHING i buy and I rarelyhave soemthing i cant fit to my body. The vast majority of my boots dont have a sock layer and looks fine *shrugs* becuase i edited the prims to fit.

Are you adjusting the calf piece vertically? You'll get some ankle show-through if you don't, especially if you're shrinking the entire piece...it stays attached at the same point, but the length become shorter and is therefore unable to meet the foot piece properly without some adjustment.

Those dress forms and all the clothing attachments are prims. Weren't you advocating "primming down" in order to tier down?

Anyway, I'm with the "I like pretty shops" crowd. I shop as a pastime, not just to get stuff. I like seeing how stores are designed, etc.

man you guys are giving me "pretty store" envy lol

After four years spent creating stuffs in SL i am still learning new things every now and then. And i don't think i'm such a slow learner.

Bottom line, to judge creations in SL i believe minimal knowledges in content creation are needed, wich the OP kind of proved he has yet to aquire.

It's like complaining IRL that there are too many seams on a lamb leather dress and not factoring that lambs only get so big, and so are the pelts you can get out of it.

same here I love to see how folks designed their store, and it makes the shopping experience much more enjoyable (again depends on the store type too)

same here, I am not saying I know it all LOL far from it
and I would not dream of trying to tell someone else how to do their store (unless they asked me for advice)

I get the feeling that this person wants everyone to do things exactly their way, which is silly.

The variety is what makes SL fun

Considering how you were going on and on yourself about intending to be a consultant, with designers and store owners as your clients, this post brings a whole new meaning to 'no professionalism whatsoever in how to deal with a customer.'

Still reading through the thread; FYI if these are system skirts (i.e. NOT PRIM SKIRTS) then all system skirts will always have holes in them. At least until this is fixed:

http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2258

This, again, is a function of the avatar mesh and the clothing mesh layers. For information, see here:

http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-3432

What are prim shorts? Do you mean system shorts (using the clothing mesh layers?)