Mainland value, after adult content moved...

I'm not sure that noting an abrupt change in what had been a noticeable trend, qualifies as 'pouting'.

It depends on your definition of "value more/less". If that's just the price, then the answer for some time is going to be "less".
Prices were tanking in any case. I'm talking about the prices of quality land here - not desert wastelands.




It's funny.
The land sims in the new set are all Mature.
The older sims that they adjoin are all PG.

The water sims in the new set are PG.

Buyers of beach-front parcels need to bear in mind:
They can nippy-dip in their own Mature water, but should not swim out into the PG water.
They can bonk underwater in their Mature water, but only if inside a submarine - or inside a closed boat cabin above the surface.
They should beware of allowing their craft to drift while bonking. If it strays into the PG water, the Coast Guard cutter will arrive.
Wearing life-jackets does not get them off.
--- Well, kinks apart!

Crying 'cheater' when something doesn't go your way is pouting to me. But I'm glad really. It gives Des some humanity.

But it is a forum, after all. Not the place to find accuracy, impartiality, or meaning. Very little of importance is ever said in a forum, and when it is, it usually goes something like this:

Honestly, as my aforementioned snotty reply far above indicates, I think my own estate is far above all this and I don't have a horse in this race. It's more intellectual curiosity.

Which side should I take?

A more... adult, icky mainland benefits me the best I can tell.

A washed out PG wasteland does also, the best I can tell.

I'm seeing nothing but win, here. As for flaws, let's see... I've got pride, arrogance, stuff along those lines. Flaws, I got.

But pouting over a poll!? Oh, please.

I stand by my earlier statement, and anyone watching would have seen it too. The poll wavered between roughly 33 and 40% one direction, then roughly on Sunday night or Monday morning it went down to about 26% (the same direction). I looked at the names, and I know waaaay more on the one side than the other; a massive shift from prior days.

Given that, what would you think? My best guess is alt stuffing, or maybe a ton of noobs are bored at work Monday morning.

Quite frankly my gut impression before this all started woulda been 95%/5% anyhow.

Edit: after some reflection, it might be me: I don't know the pervy folk of SL that well. Could that be it? ducks and runs...

I vote for Argent's Deviant to Hanlon's Razor. "Never ascribe to malice what can be adequately explained by a Monday morning meeting."

Shame LL chooses not to poll it's customer base via the Login screen.

Question :
"Are you in favour of the segregation of Adult Content which will require a form of Adult verification to view such content"

If that question was asked translated in multi-languages, i would lay odds that the vote would be round 90%/10% for a NO

LL ask out opinion and then use it?
Nuuuuuuuu
I know its April Fools here.. but arent you still in March?

Lol- yeah it would be a April Fools joke question I guess!

btw i think a lot of diff language groups are blissfully unaware of the upcoming changes..
on SLmame (japanese sl blogsite) i notice a bunch of japanese love hotels (rent by the hour sex sky boxes and free sex areas) going up on mainland.

in fact.. i have seen no japanese announcements of the whole thing.

This is what many have been saying on the official LL Comments thread, which is predominantly inhabited by several 100 English speaking contributors.

The frightening thing about all of this.....LL won't inform the general customer base of which 60% come from non-English speaking countries. When cornered the replied that they created a blog (again only in English) and a few related forum threads (again in English) . How many read the blogs or forums?

There are now serveral in-world Groups trying to inform the masses.....again it will only touch a small percentage. It really depends how quick word of mouth can spread throughout the grid.

if handled the way the ad-farm changes were, the burden will fall on the residents to research and find out about these NEW changes. and if they don't 'comply' in the timely fashion LL has deemed, they could fall victims to land repossession just as the fellow did in the other thread over. it's very confusing and twisted, the way LL handles contracts.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too.


And yeah, like people are saying ~ I know those who only log in every few months to check on stuff. Anyone with adult stuff may be in for a surprise.

Hard to say, though... if it's really only about the most vile stuff, maybe all the BDSM toy shops and whatever will be left alone? Nobody really much worries about that stuff that I have ever seen.

Desmond puts the Punk in SteamPunk.

i would have TOTALLY put him in the Steam category, myself.

People said exactly the same thing about the gambling ban.

"OMFG, don't LLabs knows that casinos are the backbone of SL?"

"This is the end of SL. What will people do for fun?"

"I invested a lot of money in my tables and land, this suxxorz."

"land values are going to crater when all the casinos leave."

"nobody asked US whether we wanted a gambling ban or not."

"uptight, nanny-state conservatives are RUINING SL!!!."

"we are all adults here, what the hell is the problem?"



Aaaaand, just for laughs...a Desmond Shang quote from July, 2007.

No, "we" didn't. People in general didn't. "Some people" did, but it was hardly a consensus.

A whopping group of 250 is only a consensus of 250 people who cared enough to vote one way or another.

And, further, I didn't use the royal "we."

And, even further, go back and read the forums in the weeks following the gambling ban - there was far more outraged drama as hundreds of people were ACTUALLY put out of business. If you want to talk scale of public uproar, the creation of Pervistan isn't even close to the levels pinged when sim tier was increased to $295 and the Open Space debacle.

Sorry, but this rates as junior level drama that will be forgotten next month.

You don't think forcing everybody who wants to go to a strip club, or any place 'worse', to age verify will cause people to go out of business? Or that stuffing all those high-traffic places into a tiny continent won't lag people out of business?

/me thinks you are mistaken.

Also, I wonder what the top 5 professions for newbies to make a few L$ are.. Care to guess?

I wont move to mainland...even if all those blingtard laggy clubs go, i still wont move to mainland.

Mainland has that ominous word "lag" attached to it. Not only that but prices are usually horribly inflated for the good places. I'm happy renting out my quarter sim for my TARDIS time station and my photography studio in a private estate

I've always struggled to understand why people insist on claiming the mainland is more laggy. From other conversations I'm getting the inkling of an impression that it's because they have their draw distance set to 10 bajillion and can't handle when they finally teleport off that single, disconnected estate sim with no neighbours.

Draw distance lag caused by having a huge continuous continent must surely be the only type of lag the mainland suffers from more than tiny crappy estates.

AMD Dual Core set up
Dual nVidia 8800 Gainward GTX cards
Twined channel Crucial DDR2 2gb sticks x 2
Asus A8N-SLI Premium mainboard
Western Digital XtaGold Harddrives

I can go to Caledon on ultra setting with everything at max with antialiasing on and sit right in the middle of the caledon continent, fly up to 100 meters, start spinning the cam and my fps remains at a constant 47.

I try that same thing in mainland the FPS remains at about 40 odd, but when i go into the stats viewer nine times out of ten the mainland sim i am on has a time dilation that's non existant and sim FPS thats so low your walking in treacle.

I dont know what client lag is, cause i've never had it. Any lag i get i immediatly go into the stat viewer to look at the sim stats cause i know for a fact it aint my PC struggling.

Thats why i'll remain on my 'crappy' private estate

Everyone keeps speaking about the BDSM dungeons that may crop up next door. You may also want to consider will this shift effect your ability to add INTIMATE POSE BALLS to your home for cuddling and consensual, private, tasteful sex acts. Do you have a boyfriend or a girlfriend on SL that you occasionally like to participate in adult activities with??? Well guess what.

With PG mainland and the fact that cameras can cam through walls. Your consensual sex days may be over.

As for a youthful influx into SL.... they have the SL Teen World for that. Instead of moving adult content, why not just build an Adult PG area and let the people who do not want to be bothered move into their own little neighborhood. If we are all adults, should we not each be held accountable for our actions?

BDSM Dungeons = Gone.
Nude Beaches = Gone.
House with sexual pose balls = ???
Stores Selling Adult Lingerie, Latex, Short Skirts = ???
Where does the Adult line end and the "Acceptable/Non-offensive PG themed Adult" line begin?

Here's a good motto... Open the door an inch and they will kick it in a mile. Adding rules and regulations has a tendency to snowball into MORE rules and regulations, then pretty soon we will have an LL Gestapo with Lindens walking around with little arm bands, banning everything with breasts over a size "36" on the slider, saying "All Hail, A Better, More Wholesome Second Life!"

Moving people out without their mutual consent is a blatant form of censorship and discrimination, it does not matter how well you word it...

I think the poll result just reflects where people live SL. Mainlanders who love the mainland voted for more value =) Our way of living has value to us. Lots more people cant stand the mainland and many voted their preference. And at 26/74 I think is quite a few estateers in this number who sympathetic to us mainlanders so they voted for us to have a happy life =)

(Lorelei raises hand in air) Me me me -- can me guess?

1. Stripper in sex club
2. Escort in sex club
3. Bouncer in sex club
4. DJ in sex club
5. Getting paid to put sex club into profile picks

WELL SAID.
This is *exactly* how it will turn out..
Not after a week..
but after several MONTHS.

Really, almost nobody wants to spend time on a PG sim.
At least not for the rest of their lifes. Mainland is a mess, LL just kicks the people out that are at least active in the mainland. Anyway, way to go, .. nice attempt to balance the ship.