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Mira Etoile
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08-26-2008 06:06
From: Dakota Tebaldi Asking someone to prove their claim is not the same as directly claiming the opposite. So I have no need to show any cards. On the other hand, you DID explicitly claim the opposite; I just called you on it. So ask Ponsonby to back his/her claim up, that's fine - but you now have your own burden of proof to shoulder, and "But...but....HE said" doesn't make it disappear.
You've discovered the point. If you KNOW you can't prove negatives, you shouldn't go around making arguments of them - that's intellectually dishonest. Although I admit, it's an awful nice escape hatch, saying something that can't be proven and then using that as a defense when somebody objects. "How can I prove that? It's unprovable!" Problem is, you just nullified your own argument. If you can't (or won't) back yourself up, how can you be taken seriously? Nah, I called him on his claim. and you came along, again, attached yourself like a leech, and tried to catch me in what you think is hypocrisy, and you're dead wrong. You're obsessive, you are dazzled by your own BS, and starting to become creepy, so this is where the trail splits. See you, snowflake. |
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Dakota Tebaldi
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08-26-2008 06:12
From: Talarus Luan Yes, but that was taken before you made your incredulous observation.  Well, you're right, there. Here's a newer photo. Tell me - do you see any hint of wavering in this face? 
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Dakota Tebaldi
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08-26-2008 06:13
From: Mira Etoile
See you, snowflake.
QUITTER! *sigh*
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Marianne McCann
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08-26-2008 06:38
This thread is now about LOL cats. 
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Dakota Tebaldi
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08-26-2008 06:41
From: Marianne McCann This thread is now about LOL cats.
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"...Dakota will grow up to be very scary... but in a HOT and desireable kind of way." - 3Ring Binder "I really do think it's a pity he didnt "age" himself to 18." - Jig Chippewa
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2k Suisei
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08-26-2008 06:44
why not lol frogs for a change?  |
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Marianne McCann
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08-26-2008 07:01
From: 2k Suisei why not lol frogs for a change? I c'n do that... 
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2k Suisei
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08-26-2008 07:07
is this a lol cat or a lol frog?   |
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Mira Etoile
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08-26-2008 07:10
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2k Suisei
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08-26-2008 07:21
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Steely Carver
The dreamer or the dream?
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08-26-2008 07:40
From: Dakota Tebaldi Asking someone to prove their claim is not the same as directly claiming the opposite. So I have no need to show any cards. On the other hand, you DID explicitly claim the opposite; I just called you on it. So ask Ponsonby to back his/her claim up, that's fine - but you now have your own burden of proof to shoulder, and "But...but....HE said" doesn't make it disappear.
You've discovered the point. If you KNOW you can't prove negatives, you shouldn't go around making arguments of them - that's intellectually dishonest. Although I admit, it's an awful nice escape hatch, saying something that can't be proven and then using that as a defense when somebody objects. "How can I prove that? It's unprovable!" Problem is, you just nullified your own argument. If you can't (or won't) back yourself up, how can you be taken seriously? You're way too smart for a kid Dakota. Get your nose out of those books and go outside and play.
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Tod69 Talamasca
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08-26-2008 09:31
Man! There should be a course for law students: "How to Win Forum Fights". Give the kids some good ol' Logic arguments. Hmmmm... there's an idea! Lawyer-For-Hire specializing in Forum Arguments. 
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Talarus Luan
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08-26-2008 09:47
From: Dakota Tebaldi Well, you're right, there. Here's a newer photo. Tell me - do you see any hint of wavering in this face? I can see you "cracking" a smile. |
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Dakota Tebaldi
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08-26-2008 10:36
From: Talarus Luan I can see you "cracking" a smile. HA! My confidence doesn't erode so easily.
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Talarus Luan
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08-26-2008 11:00
From: Dakota Tebaldi HA! My confidence doesn't erode so easily. Might need to photoshop your "new image" a bit, then. |
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Dakota Tebaldi
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08-26-2008 11:22
From: Talarus Luan Might need to photoshop your "new image" a bit, then. Oh...the image was artifically aged in a clothes dryer before release.
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Czari Zenovka
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08-26-2008 11:36
From: Tod69 Talamasca Man! There should be a course for law students: "How to Win Forum Fights". Give the kids some good ol' Logic arguments. Hmmmm... there's an idea! Lawyer-For-Hire specializing in Forum Arguments. I wish someone would offer that service...I suck at debating. 
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Talarus Luan
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08-26-2008 11:50
From: Dakota Tebaldi Oh...the image was artifically aged in a clothes dryer before release. Wow, so a clothes dryer is the new photoshop for image doctoring in the design world. I learn something new every day!  |
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Tod69 Talamasca
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08-26-2008 12:31
From: Czari Zenovka I wish someone would offer that service...I suck at debating. I used to be good at it! But only if it was in a large group. I'm a good mass debater! *waits for groans & moans from the audience
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Chris Norse
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08-27-2008 05:40
Something to consider. If it is true, would it also not apply to the sexual ageplay? (I do not take part in any sexual ageplay. This is just for discussion.) http://mises.org/story/3080"As Clemson's Todd Kendall points out, the diffusion of the Internet decreased the money price of pornography. It also decreased the social sanction from pornography because it became much easier to acquire. Kendall examines data from 1998 through 2003 and finds that while Internet diffusion appears to have reduced the incidence of rape, it has no apparent effect on other crimes. This gives us further reason to suspect that the effect is from the Internet to pornography and not because of some other cause. Kendall further isolates the relationship by showing that the effect was largest for fifteen- to nineteen-year-old men who live with their parents — the age group for which the social sanction from pornography was larger than for other groups. The estimate is large: Kendall finds that "a 10 percentage increase in Internet access is associated with a decline in reported rape victimization of around 7.3%." He establishes this using several different statistical techniques, first comparing changes in reported rape rates over time and establishing that the "early adopter" states saw reductions in reported rapes that were faster than "late adopter" states. It is important to note that Kendall found no similar pattern for murder; moreover, his evidence suggests a larger decline in states with a higher ratio of males to females. Kendall also reports that other scholars have found film violence to be a substitute for actual violence."
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Imnotgoing Sideways
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08-27-2008 06:48
From: Chris Norse Something to consider. If it is true, would it also not apply to the sexual ageplay? (I do not take part in any sexual ageplay. This is just for discussion.) http://mises.org/story/3080.... Yeah, and certain aboriginal tribes that encourage sex play from toddlers on up have no statistical evidence of homosexuality... And so on... And so on... As much as I would LOVE to support that article... It's just another pile of blind statics and fails to change anyones bias on this argument. (=_=) With that in mind... A club and the corpse of a horse comes to mind. (=_=) |
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Lindal Kidd
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08-27-2008 07:03
From: Tod69 Talamasca I used to be good at it! But only if it was in a large group. I'm a good mass debater! *waits for groans & moans from the audience Oh god. Please, Katt...Shoot this thread in the head and grant us all relief. A mercy killing it would be.
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Tegg Bode
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08-27-2008 12:32
From: Lindal Kidd Oh god. Please, Katt...Shoot this thread in the head and grant us all relief. A mercy killing it would be. Maybe no ones reported it And you know you want it, you wouldn't have had anywhere to post the above otherwise Damn I must want it too because I'm replying too.
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Marianne McCann
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08-27-2008 12:35
From: Tegg Bode Maybe no ones reported it I can guarantee that as least one person has. 
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LittleMe Jewell
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08-27-2008 12:49
Geeeeeezzzzz - are you people still at it? 
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