Zero Tolerance = Zero Common Sense

Congrats!

You expressed it better then me.

I guess you prefer your neighbours have the same attitude when it happens to you.

Well after a 100 or so ignores it may get through to some thicker ones, but it's also possible they just think it's time to pull out a new disposable alt.

I thought using IBTL twice was against forum guidelines?

/me snickers

Well, if that's the case, I call IBTL again! And to make sure I summon the Resmod or Linden, IBTL, IBTL, IBTL!

Yeah, that's nothing more than a childish ego trip. Doesn't make the person doing the ignore seem any better than the person they are ignoring, at least to me, anyway.

Might as well add the obligatory "Neener neener" to it, too.

Neener, neener.

Seriously, Tal...have you NEVER succumbed to the desire to tell someone off?

Sure, I do all the time.

I just find more .. creative .. ways of doing so.

I've had several people here and in other forums tell me "I've added you to my ignore list! NEENER NEENER!". I just respond "Bravo! Do you want a cookie now?" or something similar. I really couldn't care less if someone reads my posts or not. That's why the ignore feature is there in the first place, but I have to wonder at the mental maturity of people who have to resort to a technical mechanism to hide things from themselves that they don't want to see when it is just as easy to not read posts from people they don't like or don't agree with. I mean, what ever happened to people using their own willpower to ignore things?

Besides that, I find the whole notion of getting one's panties in a twist simply over some words in a forum quite silly. Beyond the signal to noise ratio being laughably low, people have bad days, people don't play nice, people don't understand/speak the language well, whatever. Going so far as to "hate" someone you don't know and have had no other real experience with simply because of a block of text is rather superficial. If it weren't for the same reasons I am talking about here, I would have no use for superficial people either, but I know that everyone here has a much deeper side to their personality that the forums do not penetrate, so I never allow any kind of judgment of what anyone says here cloud my opinion of them for any significant length of time. In fact, I would say I have met some of the best people from being forum adversaries.

Now, I've used chat mutes before, mainly to curb spam and other similar crap, and I understand using them to block same from forums, but that's not really an issue in this case.

this analogy reminds of Spike Lee film "Do the Right Thing" where an entire riot starts because the Italian pizzeria owner refuses put "black people up on the wall".



Public Enemy

Gads, isn't there a Godwin's Law for using rap songs to obviate freedom of speech in private enterprise?

Ya know, I would love to see an African American owned pizzeria. Might even eat there if the Health Dept score is excellent, and the food is good. I like novelty restaurants.

The OP's profile is one of the creepiest I have ever seen in SL.

its only the creepiest because everyone else hides their groups

Given the detail provided in the profile itself, hiding groups is neither here nor there, surely?

i really wouldn't know. i have better things to do then snoop around other grown ups profiles and make morality judgments about them as human being based on what groups they are in.

edited: or whatever else they express in a profile which is not necessarily an indication of anything rl unless its under first life tab.

I wasn't aware of making any morality judgements, merely indicating that if someone chooses to furnish their profile with copious detail, the groups they are in matter not.

or whatever else they express in a profile which is not necessarily an indication of anything rl unless its under first life tab.

Uh, well, no, it really is just about the creepiest. OTH, the Forums are not the only place to play dress-up--and not even the most fun. Concurring with your subsequent post, I'm not in the habit of reading Profiles as Gospel--but the First Life tab least of all--so maybe what you see is what you get only on Thursdays with a full moon.

Which reminds me of another queasiness I had elsewhere in this thread: the assertion that all that "happens outside one's head is REAL." In fact, what happens inside one's head is real, too: real honest to gosh axons are spitting real chemicals at real dendrites. Those notti ideas aren't just imaginary epiphenomena. But having those ideas is not the same as expressing them, and expressing them is different from performing them. And what one does and says with an avatar or a computer-generated image is expression, not an action performed in Real Life.

Independent of the utility of this particular prohibition, there are damned good reasons not to ban ideation that remains unexpressed, and expression that remains unperformed. This is one of the reasons why the German law (and its would-be US counterpart) is so very dangerous.

Actually, in this case, it's temptation reduction. If I put someone on the ignore list, it's because they've annoyed me enough that I will start in on THEM, which isn't any better. I don't say "You're on ignore," I simply say, "good day," or more often than not, nothing at all. Either way, I'm not addressing the person nor am I reading the person's responses any longer.

*shrugs* You've got more patience than I do!

I've noticed that it's pretty common for people on SL related forums and blogs to get out their microscopes and then judge, and thereby dismiss others opinions. Some just have a hard time arguing the ideas, I suppose, and they have to take it to the person with ad hominem. Or play class clown and make wisecracks at someone else' expense

It's a pretty sad technique. One which of course doesn't only happen with SL (try the WoW forums sometime, where you can't have any sort of opinion unless your armory gear is up to *par*, because they go straight to the armory, look at your gear, and if you aren't someone who spends inordinate amounts of time getting the good stuff, you'll be dismissed out of hand). But at least over there they have the excuse that they are mostly teens. It does seems a lot more common here though than other VRs I have participated in, and it probably has to do with the demographic SL and especially SL related forums tend to attract.

The forums are serious business/metagame for some, and some take the relationships they've kindled here just as, if not more seriously than RL. Sometimes the loyalties/saccharine praise displayed makes me wonder if they're even being real, and not just attempting to endear oneself to a certain crowd. I also wonder how some manage to have a life outside forums, when they have thousands and thousands of posts across multiple SL related sites.

I really think that some are actually addicted to forums, which is not healthy. But perhaps they are lacking in certain areas in RL, so maybe it's a good thing that they have forums to go to for affirmation.

*shields up*

*awaits the inevitable complaints of "This is your first post, how can you be taken seriously!!!??ZOMGHANDWRINGINGCHRISTONASTICK!11!!"*

To which I say, go play the Wow forums metagame, you'll fit right in.

And if what I have said above makes you defensive, especially defensive enough to want to take a swing at me, pause for a moment and ask yourself why you are getting defensive about it, when it was directed at no one in particular.

You don't have to be "better" than the person you're ignoring; you just gotta not want to see what they post anymore.

Uhhh...

Reading through all the posts I think that it's pretty sad that there are people who actually believe that it's okay to roleplay sexual ageplay. There isn't a lot that I would say another consenting adult should not do. But as a woman who was molested at three, as a woman who is the girlfriend of a man who was molested at 7, as a daugther of a woman who was molested by her uncle, as a women who's bestfriend was molested at 5 by her grandfather, and as a women whos neighbor was raped by her father, I think this is one thing that people should be hysterical about. Molestation and child rape happens a lot more than people like to talk about. As far as sl, we all know that majority of sexual age players are consenting adults but who the hell cares. People are normally halted in fulling their fantasies in rl for various reasons. But then there are some of them who arent. As for the people who say that real pedophiles are looking is rl for their victims, please, give me a dang on break. There is always a progression and these pedophiles start somewhere. For the men who find 15 year olds attractive, understandable. But when you look at a 10 year old and start fantasizing thats a problem. Come on people, this is just one thing that shouldnt even be a discussion. And for all the people who posted who have never experienced it first hand, shouldn't even have anything to say in arguement for free roleplay, every last person I named above is scarred for life from their experiance. So when someone rp's in sl, and when thats not enough and they take their desires to rl I hope all of you feel like dumbass*s.

I don't recall Lindal or I saying we "hated" anyone.

However you using terms like "mental maturity" (in the same paragraph as "Do you want a cookie" lol), and "getting panties in a twist" (never said that either...just that the OP was giving me a headache), makes me wonder what your agenda is.

Oh and IBTL!!

I'm seriously wondering (READ: Not stating that they have no lives, but rather wondering how they keep jobs and take care of day to day life), and in general. I didn't single anyone out. It's not ad hominem, but a nice try at a gotcha.

Did you win the debate yet?

It's always cool when someone complains that someone else is trying to win when they themselves approach the topic as if it were a high school debate, to be won.