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Ava Velde
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06-02-2009 09:22
From: Argus Collingwood
Sim Buster @ van Eyck tonight .. we not not amused, came back twice to crash the sim under different names. Voice only and said he was A New Boss or Anubis;) Ok question, rouge client or sim buster or both?


I translated this in arabic :)))


سيم المغفل
Eyck @ فان هذه الليلة.. لم يكن هذا مسليا بالنسبة لنا ، وعاد مرتين الى التحطم سيم تحت أسماء مختلفة. صوت فقط وقال انه

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Amaranthim Talon
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06-02-2009 09:23
From: Jack42 Meredith
heres a question.. someone told me that the emerald viewer has different shaped objects for building. and its depending on what sim your on. i still havent found a sim that changes the shapes of building objects or prims ? anyone know about this? :)

No- not different sim- different client- If i build a thing with the new shapes in GL and you are in a different client- it will look the same to you- but- if you try to change it, edit it- then it snaps back to the original shape, i.e, box, sphere- whatever.
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06-02-2009 09:24
From: Jack42 Meredith
heres a question.. someone told me that the emerald viewer has different shaped objects for building. and its depending on what sim your on. i still havent found a sim that changes the shapes of building objects or prims ? anyone know about this? :)

No change for any of the Second Life grids. Many of the alternative viewers allow you to create mega prims in external grids.
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06-02-2009 09:26
From: Amaranthim Talon
No- not different sim- different client- If i build a thing with the new shapes in GL and you are in a different client- it will look the same to you- but- if you try to change it, edit it- then it snaps back to the original shape, i.e, box, sphere- whatever.

Cool if they added more shapes. Never looked at that. I will have to take a peak this evening.
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Ava Velde
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06-02-2009 09:36
From: Jesse Barnett
Cool if they added more shapes. Never looked at that. I will have to take a peak this evening.



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Amaranthim Talon
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06-02-2009 09:44
Here is one of the shapes and how it is seen in both SL and GL clients. Note- I was told that if i changed the size the new shape wd snap back to the std form. This is incorrect- howeer, when choosing to change the form, say from cube based to sphere based, then you wd possibly lose the 'new shape' - size doesnt seem to affect it.

Here are pix:





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Boy Lane
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06-02-2009 09:47
Can I have a secret CIA chip too please? :p
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06-02-2009 09:53
Pleaseeeee!!!!!!!

This is a public forum where many newbies read "news"!


So please use the full name (GreenLife viewer = GL) instead of shortcuts or people will be busy using Google and may end up reading postings inside Girls' Life magazine *lolz

(GreenLife viewer = GL)

:rolleyes:
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06-02-2009 09:55
ZOMGWTFDYTWYA?
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06-02-2009 09:57
From: Jesse Barnett
I will have to take a peak this evening.
Just don't take Everest, the Chinese would be totally pissed if they found that one missing.
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06-02-2009 09:59
Singapore girls only team just returned from Everest YAY! :D
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06-02-2009 10:11
From: Argent Stonecutter
Just don't take Everest, the Chinese would be totally pissed if they found that one missing.


The Chinese own already the better half of the Everest. The Nepal side is full of dead bodies and empty oxygen tanks... and if you climb from the Chinese side you just need about 15.000 EUR instead of 30.000 from the Nepal side :)

Amaranthim Talon
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06-02-2009 10:12
From: Ava Velde
Pleaseeeee!!!!!!!

This is a public forum where many newbies read "news"!


So please use the full name (GreenLife viewer = GL) instead of shortcuts or people will be busy using Google and may end up reading postings inside Girls' Life magazine *lolz

(GreenLife viewer = GL)

:rolleyes:

Sorry! :o http://modularsystems.sl/
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Jack42 Meredith
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06-02-2009 10:29
From: Amaranthim Talon
Here is one of the shapes and how it is seen in both SL and GL clients. Note- I was told that if i changed the size the new shape wd snap back to the std form. This is incorrect- howeer, when choosing to change the form, say from cube based to sphere based, then you wd possibly lose the 'new shape' - size doesnt seem to affect it.

Here are pix:







hi :) i still dont understand.. when i go to edit in greenlive viewer, all the objects look the same even when i rez them. so if im in the gl viewer and some on is in sl viewer and i rez a box it will look different to them? this sounds screwed up to me. please help me understand this so i dont create a build with the gl viewer and some one in sl viewer sees my build all messed up :(
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06-02-2009 10:36
From: Jack42 Meredith
hi :) i still dont understand.. when i go to edit in greenlive viewer, all the objects look the same even when i rez them. so if im in the gl viewer and some on is in sl viewer and i rez a box it will look different to them? this sounds screwed up to me. please help me understand this so i dont create a build with the gl viewer and some one in sl viewer sees my build all messed up :(


"learning by doing"

If you have an alt log in using two different clients (GreenLife and Standard SL client). A manual of the GreenLife viewer doesn't exist yet but it is an interesting question and I hope you can explain that here in a few.
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06-02-2009 10:53
From: Jack42 Meredith
hi :) i still dont understand.. when i go to edit in greenlive viewer, all the objects look the same even when i rez them. so if im in the gl viewer and some on is in sl viewer and i rez a box it will look different to them? this sounds screwed up to me. please help me understand this so i dont create a build with the gl viewer and some one in sl viewer sees my build all messed up :(


Oh, it looks the same, and basic edits like stretching will work in any viewer. You can get into a little trouble if you try to make bigger changes on one of these special prims using a regular viewer, for example if you try to hollow one, it will revert to a box or some other basic prim type.
Jack42 Meredith
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06-02-2009 10:59
i still dont know how u are seeing these new shapes? do i see them while im in greenlife? :)
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06-02-2009 11:03
From: Jack42 Meredith
i still dont know how u are seeing these new shapes? do i see them while im in greenlife? :)

Oh, sorry, from what you wrote I thought you had found it =)

What you do is rez one of the standard prim types, and then you can change it to one of the custom ones. In the edit window under the Object tab, you will find a bunch of extra options under the little Building Block Type menu. Try them out and see what they do, some look more interesting than others.
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06-02-2009 11:07
From: Viktoria Dovgal
Oh, sorry, from what you wrote I thought you had found it =)

What you do is rez one of the standard prim types, and then you can change it to one of the custom ones. In the edit window under the Object tab, you will find a bunch of extra options under the little Building Block Type menu. Try them out and see what they do, some look more interesting than others.



ohhhh :) thank you Viktoria this was my question from the get go . i will check it out when i get home
Amaranthim Talon
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06-02-2009 13:14
From: Jack42 Meredith
i still dont know how u are seeing these new shapes? do i see them while im in greenlife? :)

OK- rez a box- then in the drop down in Object tab where you can choose if it is to be say a sculpt- choose one of the new shapes there-

ETA- NMV - i see it was answererd :)
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06-02-2009 16:08
From: Argent Stonecutter
Just don't take Everest, the Chinese would be totally pissed if they found that one missing.

You should no by now that I can not speel wurth a carp!
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Singapore girls only team just returned from Everest YAY! :D

From: Ava Velde
The Chinese own already the better half of the Everest. The Nepal side is full of dead bodies and empty oxygen tanks... and if you climb from the Chinese side you just need about 15.000 EUR instead of 30.000 from the Nepal side :)

(I took out the image of the ferret, no use in making Argent suffer anymore then necessary :p )
The owner of our company just came back from the Chinese side Everest Base Camp. He also had the "pleasure" of being driven on the Friendship Highway(Google it to see some mind blowing pictures). He is 70+ but this was on his bucket list. Everest of course is worth seeing but he will never go back. The crushing poverty in the area is pretty bleak. Children lined up outside the door of a "restaurant" waiting for the owner to turn their back for a second so that they could rush in and steal a handful of rice off of his plate.

I have been very fortunately and had the opportunity to travel the globe. Wish they made it a requirement during the college years. Your perspective is forever changed. Once you look past religion and governments, you will see that all the majority of people on this earth wants is shelter, food and maybe a better life for their children.

Back on topic. Both Thomas and LGG have done some really amazing work with the viewer. I had already been using LGG's PAR plugin for over a month. Now that it is integrated into the viewer code it is amazingly fast and helpful. Hopefully, now that alternative viewers are giving ways to list the av's in a sim, LL will get off of thier butts and finally give us llAgentsInSim. Stupid amount of bandwidth wasted over the years on needless sensors.
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06-02-2009 16:30
From: Ava Velde
I translated this in arabic :)))


سيم المغفل
Eyck @ فان هذه الليلة.. لم يكن هذا مسليا بالنسبة لنا ، وعاد مرتين الى التحطم سيم تحت أسماء مختلفة. صوت فقط وقال انه

:rolleyes:
がSim Buster @ van Eyck今夜..私たちは、面白がってはいない別の名前の下のシムを2回クラッシュするようになりました。音声のみで、彼は新しいボスまたは[ OK ]をアヌビス ;) 問題は、クライアントまたはシムルージュバスター、あるいはその両方だったか?
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06-02-2009 16:49
From: Jack42 Meredith
hi :) i still dont understand.. when i go to edit in greenlive viewer, all the objects look the same even when i rez them. so if im in the gl viewer and some on is in sl viewer and i rez a box it will look different to them? this sounds screwed up to me. please help me understand this so i dont create a build with the gl viewer and some one in sl viewer sees my build all messed up :(
Okay... You know how, when you rez a new prim, you can make it a cube, or a sphere, or a pyramid, or a torus, or a tube, and so on?

Well, GLE (GreenLife Emerald viewer) simply adds to the list of shapes that a new prim can take when rezzed. It does not alter any of the existing shapes; it just adds more shapes. So a cube rezzed in either viewer will appear as a cube in both (GLE and official) viewers; a sphere rezzed in either viewer will appear as a sphere in both viewers. One of the special new shapes can only be initially rezzed with GLE, but will still appear the same in both viewers. Once created, you can even put it in your inventory and rez it in a different viewer, and it will still look the same.
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06-02-2009 17:59
From: Jesse Barnett
You should no by now that I can not speel wurth a carp!


(I took out the image of the ferret, no use in making Argent suffer anymore then necessary :p )
The owner of our company just came back from the Chinese side Everest Base Camp. He also had the "pleasure" of being driven on the Friendship Highway(Google it to see some mind blowing pictures). He is 70+ but this was on his bucket list. Everest of course is worth seeing but he will never go back. The crushing poverty in the area is pretty bleak. Children lined up outside the door of a "restaurant" waiting for the owner to turn their back for a second so that they could rush in and steal a handful of rice off of his plate.

I have been very fortunately and had the opportunity to travel the globe. Wish they made it a requirement during the college years. Your perspective is forever changed. Once you look past religion and governments, you will see that all the majority of people on this earth wants is shelter, food and maybe a better life for their children.

Back on topic. Both Thomas and LGG have done some really amazing work with the viewer. I had already been using LGG's PAR plugin for over a month. Now that it is integrated into the viewer code it is amazingly fast and helpful. Hopefully, now that alternative viewers are giving ways to list the av's in a sim, LL will get off of thier butts and finally give us llAgentsInSim. Stupid amount of bandwidth wasted over the years on needless sensors.



Let me just quote everything as I think it is important. A man in age of 70+ can make it to the summit of the Everest. Must be the "girls only team" from Singapore pushing or pulling him. Just amazing. I could not do it. I am jealous about so many ppls.

I agree with GreenLife ad all the neat functions. Its my favorite viewer and I also use the PAR Plugins now and then. But GreenLife is not the thema here either so lets step back to the right thema of Sony's threat about "secret viewers" which arent public, not listed in the Wiki. We are talking about this VLife (I dont know it), so if someone has the cash she/he/they can get the best view, can feel stronger and also look down onto others? So the coders of the new and secret viewers are the climbers of the Everest who want to reach the top while LindenLabs is watching them from Basecamp???

And everybody who wants to be part of the summit trip just need cash and can feel like god? What makes people pay 50.000 Lindens for the VLife viewer that comes with a Serial number and works for only one account? As far as I see you can find people gridwide (everywhere) inside SL and other functions which no other viewer and no Proxy tool offers.

Something is going wrong in SL - something is up-side-down








I think it is really a trip


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06-02-2009 18:04
LOL Base camp NOT the summit! He said there wasn't nearly enough air for him even there at the 16K elevation.
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