Secret SL Viewers? "Cyro" and "V-Life"

Most of this conversation is beyond the scope of my knowledge or interest, but there is something here. Nicholaz has also voiced his frustrations in submitting fixes to LL, getting stonewalled with denials and comments like "You couldn't have fixed it because it couldn't have happened". it does seem to this luddite that they do adopt an ostrich stance at times. Whether it is from incompetence or arrogance, who knows?

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He isn't trolling anything here and I would not want to mute someone who could teach me or I may would end smacking my head on the desk - right in front of my computer (Just in case the someone cannot see your animated profile icon).

The more I follow this threat the more I do see how much people really know what's going on here inside SL. Especially those "elite" members with years of SL experience, high level scripting skills and so on who often think they know everything but don't know nothing.

I hope you see now that this Threat isn't any gossip (as you thought) nor any advertising.

Do NOT attack people. Stay on topic please.

That's J then who is part of GLE. So it's the same people behind Vlife and GLE as someone posted here: http://www.kabalyero.com/2009/05/23/vlife-means-trojan-horse-virus/

As I have spoken in the past with both J and Thomas not only about GPL issues that would make me pretty sad if that's indeed true but all points to this.

GLE and Vlife are two completely seperate viewers regardless of the people contributing code.

GLE is fully TOS and GPL compliant, is fully open source, and will remain so.

I take that as a confirmation then. It's not about viewers but about people and ethics.

It wasn't a confirmation, it was exactly the opposite, they are completely seperate.

Though at the same time, the only reason GLE has crash fixes is because the creators of these crashes have explained them and produced code to fix them.

You need to stop being closed minded, and to stop making assumptions based on your very limited knowledge of what's going on.

That statement is pretty clear.

There is a difference between "Contributing code" and "Being an author"

I've contributed code to LL's viewer, does that mean I created their viewer?

Let me draw an analogy for you.

There is this car dealer in your neighbourhood. He's around for a while, trying to sell all kind of a bit shady cars and accessories. Occasionally the police drops by. You don't care much.

From one day to the other the facade of the old workshop is painted new with a huge new brand logo above the door and right in front there is a fantastic new SUV you've never heard about. But the advertisement is amazing. It comes with all kind of super duper components and even Porsche parts. Looks really great.

Then the other day, in the backyard, there are 2 Porsche parked with sales ads on them, shiny and fresh polished. Little bit hefty on the price but they come with a tuned engine, speed radar detection, police radio, GPS and who knows what. Bit of a coincidence you read in the newspaper 2 of the same models were stolen a couple of days ago. But can't be these, the color was different.

You still think of perhaps giving the SUV a test ride. Then the police comes. And you figure out that shady dealer from the past is still the same and luckily you did not take the bait.

Cool story bro.

Because they don't exist you mean?

BTW I have a secret rock that can steal scripts too. I'll sell it to you for L$50,000. But I can't demonstrate it it until after you pay.

I'm not trying to sell anyone anything.

The tool that allows scripts to be made fully permissive is NOT included in the retail version of Vlife.

Plus, as you'll note above, someone who was arguing for your camp spoke to someone they know and trust, and confirmed that scripts can be stolen.

I'm done with this thread, continue to believe whatever you like, when you find your objects and scripts full perms with your name on them out there, don't say I didn't warn you.

Back to the trust problem I guess since I don't trust Jesse or his truustable friend.

Who is Jesse then and who is his/her trustable friend?


Why dont you trust them.. can you make an argument out of this statement so everybody can understand you and maybe Jesse and this friend too?

I totally understand that there is no reason for you to explain or comment something more in this Threat.

I know you are totally right

~sight~

We use the GreenLife viewer which is the best of those you can get from the Wiki. I am using it for 3-4 weeks now and I never crash.

I don't know Jesse personally, but here in the forums she is known as a scripter who has helped a lot of people. She gives generously of both her knowledge and scripts.

Jesse could be mistaken about something, but ill-intentioned ... I would have a LOT of trouble believing that.
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There is nothing to be mistaken here. The exploits exist and proof was provided. That does not mean they become available to the public.

Jesse is not involved in anything regarding that exploits though.

OMG! You scare me!

White Hats / Black Hats

Sim Buster @ van Eyck tonight .. we not not amused, came back twice to crash the sim under different names. Voice only and said he was A New Boss or Anubis Ok question, rouge client or sim buster or both?

What ???

heres a question.. someone told me that the emerald viewer has different shaped objects for building. and its depending on what sim your on. i still havent found a sim that changes the shapes of building objects or prims ? anyone know about this?