Charging more for Copy/NoTrans over Trans/No Copy animations.

Recently i was dance shopping. And i came across this dance place that a few months ago said they were reworking their system to that they would offer COPY dances.

Well, i went there today and noticed that all the regular NO COP/TRANS dances are $250, and the COPY/NO TRANS dances are $500. This really ticks me off. I understand if you make sculpture or furniture or actual objects that get rezzed in world therefor you charge more for a COPY version as opposed to a NO TRANS. But FFS we are talking about dances and making life easy for people who use Chimera's/Dance Huds.

There is nothing except PURE GREED motivating a person who charges this way for animations. It is only a simple check box and makes life easier for the customers who use the product. It is not as if they are selling the $500L/more expensive animation as COPY/TRANS - its COPY/NO TRANS for $500, or TRANS/NO COPY for $250 and that is one of the biggest and most unfriendliest rip offs of the community i have seen.

Once people get a taste of money, their greed mutates into something that knows no boundaries and becomes insatiable.

And on top of that, I really wish they would remove me from their stupid IM update system. Nothing worse than getting a friendly IM about the new products of a greedy MotherF"er, only to go there and see they are squeezing the community for every penny they can get.

I know i won't ever send a new person that way again.

Everyone has a right to charge what they think they can get, and i have a right to not buy their products, and i will be exercising my right, and will not be buying anymore.

You should IM them and get them to justify their pricing to you. Maybe it's just stupidity. This creator saw that copiable items were more expensive within other sorts of content and assumed that was the norm for all content. If you were kind enough to point this error out to them as you have done here then it could enlighten them and make them reduce the price again. After all, nobody wants to intentionally alienate their customers.

You should never underestimate the stupidity of our fellow residents. It may be the reason for their current sales tactic as apposed to greed as you suggested.

If this were 2005/2006 i would have said something out of concern that the person was unsure of their pricing. But these days, someone 3-4 years old knows better.

Not ALL of their animations are priced that way. Which is to me intentional greed.

It is rather disappointing, but hey, that's life.

oh, if they are that old then there is no exscuse.

Name and shame them here.

Go on, I double dare you

Yep, Briana's right. They saw that no copy stuff brought in a higher price and decided that enough people would be sheep and pay it to justify any lost sales from the real smart ones. It's greed and nothing more.
This is the same place (I'm assuming from the description) that region-banned a friend of mine for complaining that all of the older stuff was sold as no mod, thus renaming it was not possible so she couldn't adjust their playback order in her Owenimations chimera. There are no adjustments even possible on an animation once it's been uploaded into SL, but try pointing out that fact. They don't want people questioning things like this, thinking twice before buying, and they want you to buy their own dance HUDs too. Proprietary thinking is NEVER motivated by the common good.

I once saw a sign wave in the wind...twas the weirdest thing.

Actually in many ways it makes perfect sense.

Consider a walking animation. theonly wau to use this type of animation is to use it from your inventory or within an ao. One one is going to put it into a pose ball for anyone to use etc.

However with a dance animation they can be ade to dance balls and rezzed in world. A copy version of this means many of the same dances could be added to many dance balls.

Im not saying it is the right thing to do but i can understand their justifications in doing it. I would prefer ALL dance animation creators went to copy so that we no longer risk our chims and huds going poof everytime we detatch them

*nods* I now take all my business to Henmations and Akeyo, as the owners of those places don't view their customers as money-laden sheep

You can put a copy dance into umpteen objects, why shouldn't they charge more?

Back before the Intan couples dance ball, if you wanted to have multiples of the same couples dance available, you either had to buy many copies or buy a copyable one -- so to me it definitely makes sense to charge more for a copyable version. To me it is no different that the person that buys copyable furniture and sets up a whole set of furnished apartments to rent using it.

This is why.

Charge what they want, whatever, i won't be buying their double priced Copy/no trans animations. If the price hike were an extra 100-200L, i would eat it. Double price? Forget it.

From now on it is all about Henmations and now thanks to Dana, "Akeyo" will get my business as well.

It really is a community thing. That is how i always think when i do business in SL - but i am a sucker that way, a product of my rez-date.

If it were me. Understanding the problem that MANY people have experienced with Chimeras/Huddles/AOs going POOF with every single no copy animation in them, *I* would naturally make my products Copy/No Trans, so that my customers would not suffer the agony of losing a lot of USD on my animations when and if their HUD did the Linden Shuffle and poofed away permanently.

No one else is under any obligation to be so sappy or caring about the community. It is everyone's right to come here and attempt to squeeze us all like pimples until we pop and spew money all over them. I just find that sort of money grubbing attitude, unattractive. *shrug* And i chose to complain about it so that maybe some other people will say "OH HEY, YEA THATS SCREWED" - even if they don't post it - and maybe they will stop buying from there and eventually the retailer will get the collective message...maybe.

They're offering the no copy version cheaper. What on earth your rez date has to do with the price of fish will forever remain a mystery.

Most retailers from 2003-2004 generally charge *extremely* reasonable prices and tend to think more for the community than their bank account.

But i would not expect you to know that.

It's not fair to call them stupid or greedy. You have no idea why they are pricing their items as they are, unless you have a conversation with them.

When I first started business, I was selling off items from inventory in a resale section of the store, and since the resale section was doing well, I started buying people's inventory items in large quantities. The resale items were selling so quickly, that I would place large amounts out every day, very quickly.

You came into my store and found a black sofa that I had purchased with a large lot of inventory from an individual and set out for sale. You IM'd me and pointed out that it was made by a Linden, and that it was a Freebie item. I didn't know that. I was horrified, and also petrified that you were going to come in here and announce it in forum....just like this thread.....and ruin my business before I even got off the ground....because I had seen you do it to others.

Fortunately I was online when you were in the store, and fortunately I was able to explain to you, that I simply didn't know. Please be really careful about this type of thread and accusations. And it's not even an accusation against wrong doing - people can price their items however they want to.

This one is over the top and unfair.

Your rez date is irrelevant. Nobody else does this, nobody.

Uh ok. thanks. your opinion is noted. and thrown out.

This is still true.

get over when you rezzed, it has no damn relevance unless people are asking about 2003. Do you have any idea how annoying it is to see someone disrespect everyone who joined after 2003 the way you do?

LOL. What is your issue with it. No one disrespected anyone based on their rez date. You sound like you have a little thing against it.

In fact, you need to be careful because you are looking mighty jealous and derailing my thread over my saying that people born in those periods tend to price things cheaper than those born after wards. Big whoop - are you claiming your feelings have been hurt?

Try being more secure with yourself.

My issue is that you always throw it into the conversation. You always disrespect people when you talk about your rez date but whatever, you're a one trick pony. I'm bored with it so I'll deal with it another way.

No, it is the issue someone else has with me whose kool-aid you are obviously chugging quite liberally.

I am glad you realized that you were the only person making a BIG DEAL out of it, and i am glad you showed EVERYONE else how much of a BIG DEAL you think it is when someone mentions rez-dates and how YOU feel insulted by my mentioning a rez-datein this thread.

It is quiet simple - people from that era often sold things and did things at really low prices because we wanted things to get out. When i opened Aqua Galleria it was FREE - 30,000m2 of land for a free fancy ass mall - simply for the reason of making retailers popular and getting more things out in SL for all the new people that were starting to flood in.

"Generally speaking" people from an older time in SL, price their things lower than people who have come in at a later date. Especially since many people who come here for retail now-a-days are here just for that reason alone, care nothing about the community, and only see SL as a means to an end, that end being an income. That is fine - it just was not the focus in.............get ready for it........ TWO THOUSAND THREE (echo...echo...echo..echo...)

That's a Crock.

WTF?

People *CAN* price their things however they want - I SAID THIS ALREADY DIDN'T I???

But, people can also complain about the prices a retailer chooses.

When you pick good price points - you get very little if any complaint.

Oh that is right, you were there. I am making it up!

And if you think people don't come here with the express intention of making an income, you are wrong.

But whatever. IT's A CROCK.