Teens on the Main Grid: pre-emptive discussions

Rather than get upset, I'm going to take a wait and see approach. If teens are brought to the main grid I'll happily share the grid with them. If we find griefing goes up, or some other havoc occurs, then I'll give it a second thought, but I'm not going to get all bent out of shape at this point.

Ditto. I have never used banlines before, or any kind of security but this really makes me think twice. I don't want the possibility of any child even accidently landing into my parcel and me having to deal with them on any level. I may not be having sex on that bed but I sure don't want to come home and see anyone else using it, let alone a child.

I don't really care. I partake in very little adult activity, and when I do it's in a privately owned sim, which can have full access blocked if need be.

I don't care what age people are, and I'm not going to be asking for sex from strangers, so it doesn't really matter to me. If the person is mature in behaviour, awesome. If they aren't, I won't assume they're a teen, just an idiot.

How about a sort of reverse Logan's Run thing.They can have an SLT logo on their forehead for all to see.it will change color the older they get and when they are 18 it disappears!!!

How about limiting non-verifed accounts to a maximum flying/TP altitude of 4096m, but raising the build limit to 8192m for verified adults, and allow mature content in ANY sim between 4096m and 8192m?

That would save people having to sell their land and move.

In this case maybe we should be doing a bit of vertical thinking instead of lateral thinking!

Ignore this, misread something.

We all want to know what you misread now.......

Teens are idiots and ought to be kept in cages or something (No, of course I'm not talking about YOUR teens).
I don't want to "play" with them in SL, I don't want SL to be known as some kiddie playpen, I don't want more griefing, I don't want more 15-year olds dressing like hookers and thinking they're pretty, I don't want more kids whining for handouts, or because the can't shoot people in a mall, or because they can't figure out how to get the power-up and win the game.

Adults and other people's kids don't interact socially in RL, why would this be foisted upon us in SL? It's just creepy.

Now there's a market Amara should look into. Kiddie cages.

I said something to the effect of 'Why not keep the same build limit, but limit teens to lower flight'. It seemed like an easier change. What I'd misread was that the OP said 'unverified' not 'teens', which would mean that if the unverified people had a lower-than-4096-meter flight limit, many homes and such would have to be moved.

If it was just teens, I believe that less would have to be moved, if anything at all. I don't really know how the teen grid works, honestly. Do they buy land, and whatnot?

I was addressing whether we want to share the grid with teens, and not about access to created content. That discussion is already underway elsewhere.

It was in response to Conifer Dada's post above, not just a general comment... I'm not really giving much thought to a merge at all, be it whether I care if it happens, or how to change things to be safer for teens.

I think one reason many adults are worried about teens coming to the main grid is that the teens may make creative content that will blow the rest of us out of the water. Damn kids. Too smart for their own britches.

I don't have any personal problem with teens being icky, I do have a problem with Second Life being turned into There.COM or ActiveWorlds to make it kid-safe, with approved content and restricted building and everything else it would take to really lock that puppy down for Middle America. I have a problem with people I know leaving because they're concerned about bad behavior from teens, or from false accusations of pederasty, or whatever they're worried about.

If Linden Labs wants to split SL into Wholesome Life and Deviant Life, so long as I get to keep my stuff in both without paying extra for it, I could live with that. But I really don't see that being where they're going with this.

Gad, that would be the thing that sends me packing almost as fast as the kid issues. There's a reason there.com and activeworlds sucks ... this would indeed be it.

It is idiotic no matter how one looks at it.

I would prefer LL just fix whatever is wrong with the Teen Grid and keep children there. Everyone will be better off that way.

I'll see how it plays out of they let Teens on the main grid. If it gets too bad, I'll bail.

If LL does lose it's collective mind and merge the grids, I'm hopeful that kids will find SL too boring to show up in large numbers, and they'll stay with WoW or whatever they're on now.

i don't do much of anything else but build and maybe bounce around to a few places..if my sim stays there i will probably stay too..
i don't really go to main land much anyways..i'm just hoping it's the older teens closer to 18 that decide to use sl and not the little kids..

the worst thing that could happen is it ends up like a yahoo or msn with kids knowing you can't reach through the monitor and you have a bunch of smart asses running around being smart asses because they can be..

i don't care what they say about the teen grid acting more mature than the adult grid..they will be wrong when they see for themselves..lindens don't have enough teens there to be saying that crap..
they don't have the teens in droves like yahoo Aim and msn do..they will see a different teen and i hope they retract the freaking statement when they get a shot of what it's really gonna be like when you open up things for any teens to romp and play what they will call a video game..

I don't think they will be allowed in mature sims so it really wouldn't be hard to stay away from PG sims if I wanted to. I have one satellite in a pg sim now, and pretty safe to say that if they do come onto the main grid, I will be finding another.

"Everyone"? What about people (like me) who WERE on the teen grid, but then turned 18 and now aren't allowed to see any of their old friends?

I just had a nice conversation with Blue in Dublin, and he brought up that very thing. He said he thought it was a shame that LL's present to a good teen on TG was to send them to the MG away from their friends.

He also said lots of other stuff, lots of GOOD stuff. I want to have a chance to ask him and make doubly sure it's A-OK before repeating our convo, but basically, Blue is on the side of the teens in a great way, and on the adult's side too.

If I wanted to interact with teens, I can always log off sl and contact any one of my teen nieces and nephews. Personally, I would rather not but if I had too, then I would like to know if they are one upfront.

Don't worry about it. Surely you can see which way the wind is blowing. You're getting your way, just have to be patient a little longer. We can all see the merge coming, with this early preparation of secluding adult content. This is part one, bringing the teens in is part 2. So no need to sweat over it. Just because majority of adults don't want it to happen doesn't mean it's not going to happen.

After you graduate high school are you planning on going back there to hang out with your younger friends?

You can stay in contact with them, and hook back up with them in SL when they turn 18. In the meantime, there are people on the main grid you can make friends with.

On the other hand, now that you are over 18, exactly the same reasons adults on the main grid don't want children on there apply to you, as well. You're an adult now.

Someone on one of these "should teens be on the main grid" threads said, and I paraphrase, "What do I, a middle aged woman, have in common with a 15 year old? Nothing." Well, that may be true, but not everyone who's an adult is middle aged. I'm 18, which means I would most likely have more in common with a 15 year old than someone who's middle aged. (Not that there's anything wrong with middle people.) So to anyone who says "I don't want to interact with teens on SL," I say, then don't. But why should that mean I can't?