Was I Asleep when Events became all Club Contests & Bingo?

That is definitely a shame - I wonder what their rationale is for it?

Although not the only reason, those kinds of restrictions are what ultimately caused me to quit hosting events. Robin and Haney came by, one day, and cleared up some of the confusion. However, by then, my "regulars" had moved on and my motivation went with 'em.

I think the main reason people do so many "hot sexi nekkid wet thong" contests is the same reason escorts make so much money. Sex sells. It's a no brainer for people who are just plain lazy or not very creative. so they get desperate newbies to up their dwell and degrade themselves for a few lindens. After a while newbies smarten up and don't go anymore, then new newbies come in and the cycle repeats. Rather than complain about it try hosting an interesting event yourself there are tons of people (me included) who scan the events every night looking for a decent event. I see all the lame events then wander off to shop or build or something. I used to love contests before they all became crap.

This is true David.

Sensual, when your event hosts posted their events, did they click on the "linden supported box" for all of them?

I think the reason there are no real events any more is just like Rose said... no interest.

Let me see... my last few events...

SL Basics at Stage 4 (Mentor) - 1 person attended, was afk all through.
SL Basics at Stonehenge (Mentor) - 5 or 6 people... not like the 20 or so I used to have but cool.
Speed Building Contest - 3 people
Winter Festival Discussion - 3 people
Lottery (Free Money, Weekly) - 0-1 people average
Dances at Stonehenge - Lights, Music, Dancing - 12-20 people

I think folks don't care about anything but parties, and better yet, sex parties...

It's sad, but true... SL has become a 3d porn site, as if anyone didn't know this already.

Here's 7 things I've noticed in all my online gaming years that ALWAYS draws a crowd...

1) Sex Sells
2) Promice of Money Sells
3) See #1
4) See #2
5) The Illusion of "Class" Sells
6) Sex Sells
7)* TaLkInG LiKe ThIs SelLs As LoNg aS iT InClUdEs "DaNcEiNg" aNd "SeX" aNd "MoNeY"


Yup, it has worked since 2002, and it contunes to work today..

- Sam

* - Yes you have to spell it "Danceing" not "Dancing" as the latter seems to have a strange effect on people.

I think the reason there are no real events any more is just like Rose said... no interest.

Let me see... my last few events...

SL Basics at Stage 4 (Mentor) - 1 person attended, was afk all through.
SL Basics at Stonehenge (Mentor) - 5 or 6 people... not like the 20 or so I used to have but cool.
Speed Building Contest - 3 people
Winter Festival Discussion - 3 people
Lottery (Free Money, Weekly) - 0-1 people average
Dances at Stonehenge - Lights, Music, Dancing - 12-20 people

I think folks don't care about anything but parties, and better yet, sex parties...

It's sad, but true... SL has become a 3d porn site, as if anyone didn't know this already.

hehe.. don't you hate being the last post on a page when it goes beyond one page Sio!? I always get scared my post will be missed because people will click auto on the next number. hahaha.. *guilty!*

I did want to add one more thing. One thing I usually do at the events I host is to offer a board for people to click if they want to be IM notified of future events that I host (with the option to be removed from the list at *any* time). Sometimes I will do seperate mailing lists for different types of events (ie - broken into categories - Auctions, Contests, Fashion Shows, Classes, etc). It takes a little work setting it up initially, but is not so hard to maintain. This has allowed me to build a "mailing list" of sorts of people I can IM about my events, without feeling like I am spamming them.

There are still tons of events that could be hosted besides the bingo/orgy ball/toe jam/new outfit event...

I remember the days of the human blender, the build off, the writing workshops, the physical slide, design challenges, battle of the sexes, trivia of every sort...ect...

But what I think we are missing is maybe a rl connection. How about a cooking show or a how to make soap workshop...why make it all comp based. There is a definate link between the rl and sl so I cannot fathom why we don't bridge it already. Start teaching classes in Japanese or crockpot cookery. Just my .0000002 lindens. Ohh and charge for some of them. I would gladly pay a bit to take an online course in German or the fundamentals of Auromatherapy.

Wonderful ideas Isis!!

I adore you Pen... . I am sure there are more creative than myself among us. We have all become to complacent with the dj club gig and forgotten that the world is limitless. People seem to fear bringing real world ideas into this world but what better way to utilize this marvelous medium? I know I should get off my rump and do something myself but rl is a bit of a noose at the moment. Just warning you all though in a bit I will have some time off...so if you don't bite...I will

Yes it was cliecked at the time, and since Asri was giving away 3k each event, she was unsure which she was going to report for support... but it was explained to us that was not the only reason for its deletion...as we were not to have the "same" event at the same location... btw, none were turned in for support, if that matters?

Yes. Yes, you were.

Ahhh. Ok. I think it is a loophole that some use by not registering for support and their events don't get checked as much. Not a great thing, and something the Linden's need to work on, but is a likely reason you may have been flagged over others (of course, we all have our enemies too.. bleh.. )

Yes, it does NOT have to be a competion to host as many events in a day as you like without support, but it must be a totally different type of event to have it in the same area.

Here is Haney's most recent posts on the subject. They were buried in a thread.






That thread can be found here:
http://forums.secondlife.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=315008

I know another good argument against why the current rules up are not so great, and that is that it hurts hosts that want to do an event for US times and then the *same* event for Euro times.

I'm going to go search for that town hall log where they stated they were going to start sorting the events into categories. To me, having that set should mean that any other rules should be VERY slim.

Yes hun I am familiar with the rules... but the events really were not the same, yes it was fashion week, yes they were all fashion shows, but each event was in honor of a different designer...
I know there was alot of crap events like come to my place and be bored together type of events, but at least it gave others more of a chance to have a creative event, or something special such as fashion week that required alot of planning and time from several people.

Ok Sens. Sorry, his posts were buried, so wasn't sure if you had seen them. But really, only a handful of people have posted to that thread, and it is to me a major issue that should be in the Linden "Feature Feedback" forum. Sometimes they scatter these issues so much that it is no wonder they can't get the feedback they are looking for. Of course this made me think of an idea for an event, but that is another topic.

I think too that these rules are horrid for private sim owners or large land owners. You are one person on ONE area. You should be able to have more than one event on your land and not be punished for being only one person. One thing I had to do when I was helping Briana do the Grand Opening of the Galleria Sim was that even though I was hosting 4 different events in one day, I posted two and she posted two. The four events were very different, but I wanted to make sure that they would all stay listed. There *are* loopholes, but we should not have to jump through these loopholes (nor is it really fair to those who don't think of them).

LL wants us to offer creative content and events. Yet their very rules stifle this. Sorting the events by categories and montoring to make sure that events are in the right category (much like the forums) should really be the only restriction as far as my opinion is concerned. And I'm about to go post that in the thread I mentioned now while I'm thinking about it.

For others who want to offer feedback on this issue, the thread can be found here:
/120/ba/29929/1.html#post320471

I prefer to do small, intensive building classes so I started doing Remedial Building once a week advertised for those that "failed" Building 101. (I missed last week because I fell asleep, sorry!).

Now, of course my problem is that people don't fail Building 101 because there IS no Building 101! So there's nowhere to send the people who are overqualified for my classes. Which means I have to step it up a notch. Which means my original audience loses out.

Torley: I'd do more trivia events if I had the preparation time for them. A trivia event typically takes me 2 hours to get ready for, and that's time I don't have currently. Maybe after January 9th, I will.

I have a Show & Tell & Hints event this evening at 8 p.m. Buried amidst the other events, of course, and will likely get a small fraction of the attendance, but at least it's not a club or bingo!

<quitely>Yes, I am one of those who will go to any and all bingo events...</quietly>

There's no Building 101 because nobody turns up for classes.

I feel the same way Maeve, whole lotta crap but I did find a new game called TRINGO and I am already addicted. There is another game tonight at 8:30pm come join me there
MM

Just teach them to build sexual organs and hand out L$1,000, and it would be packed.

Seriously, announcements must come back, automated with our preferenced filters on it, and quit the darned censorship. An event is an event. Even if it only includes studying a toenail. Let people have it their way, not the way the ..... want it. We all see how that goes.
Give us a lot of categories and filter, and let people post whatever they want. I would suddenly be able to see events that trigger my interest, and not have to wade through tons of completely (for me) boring dance events. I never club around, but that is all i see when i open the event calendar. Imagine how it will be if this system persists in a world twice as big as now.

oh, and btw, we packed our house tonight for over 3 hours, without any sex involved whatsoever. But it took a couple of K though. If I could get people coming for biz instead, I would, but Im not allowed, since some vocal figures here on this very forum convinced the Lindens that my definition of an event is not valid.

I feel the same way sadly.

Lisse...

I'd like to mention that although I've only attended ONE of your trivia games, it was one of the best ones I've ever been to, period. Part of the joy was in the friendly social banter that happened during the game. The crowd there was full of good people, and I didn't hear any cries of "F*** YOU SPEED TYPER!" or "OMG U CHEATED ON GOOGLE!!1". It was carefree yet respectful. Also, Lisse, it was hilarious when Flip got up and entertained as you tabulated the score, and the way you divided the questions into respective topics was of great interest to me.

I didn't know you put so much work into it -- but now that I do, that would explain a lot.

Just wanted to let you know.

For anyone who hasn't read Snow Crash, Cua and Drift are going to stream the audiobook in Clyde on 12/31 starting at 12:00 PST .

Sio - I reall would have like to have gone to the Winter festival an the dances at Stonehedge but I did not know they were happening. I suspect it's my own fault as I forget to check the events listing in the forum. Can you put me on your IM list for events so I don't miss them?

What? You mean people go to events other than club/bingo/pajama/sex/contest?

Had me fooled.

It's been like that since 1.3 or so.

Although, I would think that this is just a phase.

We're starting to see a slow shift away from the "super megamall" mentality of builds (finally), with more specialty stores popping up. Perhaps folks will get sick of the ubiquitous flashing particle casino club xxx?

Maybe not the xxx part.

That's another thing.

Maybe it's just me, but a club seems like an awfully inefficient way of getting your freak on.

I've gone to a few out of morbid curiosity that proclaim wild fantasies and sexual shenanigans that go beyond the realm of human engineering, and all I see are a few naked avatars dancing together with the dance machine and a bunch of "ROFLOLOLOLROFLROFLROFLRMAO" stuff.

Why aren't there more places that specifically pursue this sort of stuff? It seems like a vast, untapped market. But then, I don't go after this stuff much, so maybe I'm just looking in the wrong places (I have found a few well-hidden Dungeons of Doom though).

Anywho, back to my point...

I think the future of SL gathering spots (I hope, anyways) are more laid-back, hangout type places. A few stores, maybe a laid back radio stream, and so on.

Most importantly though, places that are properly designed and implemented. How come we have the most advanced virtual worldspace ever conceived, yet everyone is perfectly happy with black cube after black cube of Club Pants?

It boggles the mind.

LF