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Event Posting Rules - What is OK to Post on the Calendar

Haney Linden
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12-14-2004 16:10
An event is defined as a special group activity that is led by a host. Examples include discussions, group meetings, hosted dances, classes, tours, and competitions. Shopping, viewing parcels for sale, and other non-group activities are not appropriate to post on the events calendar.

An event, by definition, is framed by a beginning and end time. Thus '24hr yard sales' and 'non-stop Tringo casinos' are not events.

The Commercial category was meant for posting grand openings, product launch events etc. which have a clear beginning and end time attached. Posting events that are clearly advertisements will not be acceptable.

The use of alts to post more than 5 events per day runs counter to the intent of the events posting rules and thus will not be permitted.

The event descriptions need to conform to PG guidelines, consistent with the overall Second Life website policy - so the posting should not include overt sex descriptions or references to sex for money, sex chat, simulated sex, strong violence, or anything else broadly offensive.

Mature events must be listed as Mature, and held in M-rated sims.

The calendar will not accept events scheduled less than 30 minutes in advance.
Elle Pollack
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12-14-2004 17:29
What exactly counts as "one location"?

Say I were to host events on Montmartre Island, which as a private community could be a "place". Or one person held a quiz on the stage on top of the mountian and another held a build contest at the barn down the hill, that could be two places. Or... (continue to disect ad abusrdum :).
Haney Linden
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12-14-2004 17:41
There can be more than one "location" on a Private Island or other sim.
Ahkin Pierce
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Can be?
12-15-2004 12:21
If an entire Island is owned by one person is this ONE location?
Siobhan Taylor
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12-15-2004 12:55
I think Haney meant per parcel...
but obviously this doesn't mean you can split your land into 16m2 parcels just to have loads...
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Kermitt Quirk
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12-18-2004 00:44
From: Haney Linden
There is a limit of one event per location per day on the event calendar unless the second event offers a completely different activity. Also, each person can post only one event per day regardless of the location unless the second event is completely different.


I'm still a bit confused about this comment. Does this mean that two different people cannot host the same type of event in the same place in one day?

ATM I have no land so I've been utilising someone else's in order to host some events. I host at 3am and the other person hosts the same thing at 10am. The reason I've got an event at 3am is that I'm trying to have an event open when people are actually awake on my side of the planet. Very few people in my country would be awake for the 10am game. But it sounds to me like I'm going to have to get my own land, and and buy my own set of equipment if I want to continue this, when the whole idea in the first place was to try and re-use the equipment and land.

I've completely stopped hosting my events for now because I've noticed these event posting rules also have appeared when I try to add a new event. Could someone please confirm my interpretation of this?
michael Brodsky
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12-21-2004 23:46
great we pay 200us a month to be limited on advertising i strongly disagree with this
Daemioth Sklar
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12-22-2004 05:40
Michael Brodsky--where in "Event Calendar" do you see the word "Advertising Post"??? The Events Calendar is not made for advertisements, it's made for events.
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Heaven Lily
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12-22-2004 06:59
Not that hard to figure out, Mostly, choose a different location on ur Island, with a totally different event type of course. I held 3 events on my island, 2 by me, and one by my Co owner of the island. What I think they are trying to say is, dont put the same exact location coordinates for each event, if u must add and subtract a number. I find this to work. Although with an entire island, I dont see y it is hard to pick a location, cause location on an island isnt important, they all find their way to the flock/heard of ppl.

Well this is my 2 cents *exits stage right, or should I leave on the left, sheesh decisions*

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michael Brodsky
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12-22-2004 07:27
event calendar allows you to notify people of your events doh therefore advertisement
Madison Blanc
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Ok
12-22-2004 08:59
So you're saying I can post an event as many times as I want on MY sim as long as the event/events are different..
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Madison Blanc
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12-22-2004 09:25
From: Haney Linden
There is a limit of one event per location per day on the event calendar unless the second event offers a completely different activity. Also, each person can post only one event per day regardless of the location unless the second event is completely different.

An event is defined as a special group activity that is led by a host. Examples include discussions, group meetings, hosted dances, classes, tours, and competitions. Shopping, viewing parcels for sale, and other non-group activities are not appropriate to post on the events calendar. (Most of those notices are fine to list in the classified section of the Forums.)

Examples of opportunities that are NOT OK to post as events:
- Visit my land for sale.
- Visit my new store, half price sale.
- Come see the vendor spots for rent.
- Visit my building.

Events that include organized rating of one or more Second Life residents are not allowed.

The event descriptions need to conform to PG guidelines, consistent with the overall Second Life website policy - so the posting should not include overt sex descriptions or references to sex for money, sex chat, simulated sex, strong violence, or anything else broadly offensive.

Mature events must be listed as Mature, and held in M-rated sims.

The calendar will not accept events scheduled less than 30 minutes in advance.


I had an issue last night during the *CRASH* and got a big lesson in *How to Post an Event * Why am I not surprised to see this thread lol . I posted an event .. humm maybe a few weeks ago for this week so I may have the time slot as many of us do. I posted for 6:00 PM.. no problem right HA!!!. Well not really thinking we may crash that badly in SL. I could not access the world so I had to delete the 6:00 PM event at 5:00 PM and then posted a 9:00 PM explanation for the 6:00 PM event lol ( Bad move trust me ) :confused: (I was really hoping I would be able to get back in world) I got SL *Slapped* ummhumm it hurt too lol... for posting a non event/ and or not being in world for the event. However, I understand that was wrong to do, I should have just said * Event Cancelled* and not elaborate about it... You Live and Learn as my good friend Michael told me. And that my fellow SL residents is a Lesson of Event Posting I will never forget :rolleyes:
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Jay Knox
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12-22-2004 09:35
From: Heaven Lily
What I think they are trying to say is, dont put the same exact location coordinates for each event, if u must add and subtract a number. I find this to work.
Actually that would be considered exploiting a loophole to benefit yourself. having 3 events in a day with different themes, activities etc. like you said is fine (so long as the event is Completely different, but your interpretation is self serving and is used by many (not necessarily you), to assist in making the Event finder absolutely useless to most.

From: Haney Linden
Originally Posted by Haney Linden
There is a limit of one event per location per day on the event calendar unless the second event offers a completely different activity. Also, each person can post only one event per day regardless of the location unless the second event is completely different.


Re-read that and show me where it says, "Just alter your landing point by 1 click on the X or Y axis"...It's absolutely clear and i see no reason for people to attempt to game the system by altering coordinates for the same location.
Daemioth Sklar
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12-22-2004 09:40
From: someone
event calendar allows you to notify people of your events doh therefore advertisement


Advertising EVENTS, not a product.
You can't really think that because the event calendar can notify people of events that therefore the events calendar can be used for advertisements. That's like saying peanut butter goes great on bread therefore my car battery is leaking.
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Korg Stygian
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12-22-2004 10:07
From: Daemioth Sklar
Advertising EVENTS, not a product.
You can't really think that because the event calendar can notify people of events that therefore the events calendar can be used for advertisements. That's like saying peanut butter goes great on bread therefore my car battery is leaking.

Actually, I think he has a point. Events are held as a service by various people. That service could be something as simple as entertainment. That entertainment is therefore a product. Thus, his reasoning is not flawed in any sense.

"Product" is as vague a term as "event" is if you ask me. It's a question of perspective.

As for an earlier comment about "exploiting a loophole" by changing the location by a click or two on the map, I don't see this as much of a loophole either. It's a flaw in the reasoning used to attempt to limit event listings by individuals or groups. Consider it this way for a minute. Resident X contributes 33km2 to a group. Other group members contribute a mere 4km2. That plot of land, now deeded to the group, is certainly large enough to realistically host two simulaneous events even figuring in lag depending on the type of events and the number of paricipants. Is it truly "fair" that such group/a large plot is not allowed "to advertise" more events per day than someone who owns a mere 512m2? Now, I am not saying that the small plot owner has any more or less rights to advertise, yes advertise, his or her events than the large plot owner... In my book, they have the same rights as paying customers.

And I understand the concept of attempting to provide a level playing field for all by trying to limit the number of events listed so that the less affluent can "be seen" in the events listings. OTOH, it is patently ridiculous and somewhat hypocritical to advertise (in the real world) that money can be made here, to promote private islands/sims for that purpose AND then to restrict the ability of those who have made such financial committments in an attempt to do just that.

Listing an event IS an advertisment. It is a manner of getting the word out. It effectively says, "Hey. You! Over here. Come to x place for" whatever. What is being "sold" is what is being advertised.

The "classifieds" are not the same, do not serve the same purpose or in-world usage, as the events listing --- and as such should not be construed as an acceptable alternative to being able to list more than one event/per person per day/per location --- or however you care to parse the current description.
Asha Lumiere
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12-22-2004 10:08
From: Haney Linden
Also, each person can post only one event per day regardless of the location unless the second event is completely different.

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Haney, could you please clarify this for me? I was told by Char that yes, one person may post more than one supported event per day as long as they were different events in different locations and that they don't have to be mentor events. A few days later Jeff told me that we are only allowed support for one event no matter what unless the second event was a mentor event. The way I read your post is yes we may post more than one under the rules that they are different and in different locations. Can you please clear up the confusion?
Haney Linden
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12-22-2004 11:39
From: Asha Lumiere
Haney, could you please clarify this for me? I was told by Char that yes, one person may post more than one supported event per day as long as they were different events in different locations and that they don't have to be mentor events. A few days later Jeff told me that we are only allowed support for one event no matter what unless the second event was a mentor event. The way I read your post is yes we may post more than one under the rules that they are different and in different locations. Can you please clear up the confusion?


Sorry for the confusion.

We limit L$ event support to one event per day per person. The full rules for events support are posted here.

The rules for posting events are not as strict - one person can post more than one event if the events are completely different. The rule for event posting are here.
Haney Linden
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12-22-2004 12:20
Here's some explanation of the event posting rules. These rules are meant to prevent the events calendar from having so many listings that users have a hard time finding any particular events.

It's correct that two different people are not allowed to host the same type of event in the same location on a particular day.

Generally one location means a parcel that is owned by one person. However, it's possible that one large parcel would hold multiple locations and as long as they don't share the same identity (Club X North, Club X South, for example) then they could qualify as a separate locations.

One person may post more than one event in a day in the same location if the events are completely different. For example someone can post Best Santa AV contest and Bingo at the same location on the same day. However, Best Santa AV contest and Worst Dressed AV contest are not completely different events.

Let me know if there are outstanding questions on what events are ok to post. Also, your ideas for improvements are welcome.
Roberta Dalek
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12-22-2004 14:51
From: Haney Linden
Here's some explanation of the event posting rules.
It's correct that two different people are not allowed to host the same type of event in the same location on a particular day.


I think this is a shame as it will result in many events only occuring in US friendly time slots. Couldn't allowances be made for people in Europe or Australasia ie the same event can occur if they are X hours apart?

There is a shortage of interesting events for Europeans - I think this will make it worse.
Heaven Lily
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Ok ok ok
12-23-2004 09:12
Great now its all cleared up, I was partially right. But if anyone is curious my three events were, BINGO, Treasure Hunt, and 3k raffle. All Different.
Karizon Hatfield
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12-25-2004 12:38
I find it highly ironic that effort is being put into this sort of enforcement when there are people spamming advertisement events into the calendar all the time (specifically against the guidelines) and nothing is done there.
Ahkin Pierce
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12-29-2004 12:57
I just wondered with all these Island owners paying so much money all worried about dwell hogging. Why don't you get a 512 and buy 300 us dollars worth of lindens and just pay people to stay on your property 24 /7. Or does 40 people on a huge island pay out more dwell than 40 people on a 512? If you dont put any walls or anything up you can still have prims enough to charge people to sell things there.

Sorry, I just wanted the most rediculous post award and some on this thread made it hard. LOL
Pendari Lorentz
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12-29-2004 17:29
From: Haney Linden
Also, your ideas for improvements are welcome.


LL wants us to offer creative content and events. Yet their very rules stifle this. Sorting the events by categories and montoring to make sure that events are in the right category (much like the forums) should really be the only restriction as far as my opinion is concerned. :)
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Nekokami Dragonfly
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01-26-2005 11:34
Suppose I want to post an event at which things will be for sale to support the theme of the event? In this case, a costume party for an upcoming holiday? Seriously, I'm not trying to skirt the "this is not advertising for your shop" concept (I don't even HAVE a shop -- yet) but I also plan to put a fair amount of work into the costumes and props in question, I think they'll add a lot to the event, and I just wanted to make sure it's ok to ask for a little compensation in the process.

(If it reassures anyone on my ethical intentions, I plan to have a Money Tree at the event as well, which I will fund out of my own pocket.)

And needless to say, this is not a Linden-funded event. It may be educational, but not specifically about SL. I'm assuming a potentially cultural event that's not about scripting or building or whatever doesn't count as "educational" for LL funding. (Sorry to be cryptic, but I don't know yet if I can pull off the event yet, so I'm shy about discussing it in detail.)

Thanks for advice,

neko
Lillyana Hoffman
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Hate is too weak of a word....
04-16-2005 14:49
LOATHE is more like it!

The new event posting crap is unbelievable!

1. I can't host my Tringo events and make my in game income, cuz I can't POST the event, only the owner of the Island I work at can *coughs* BullS***!
2. Yes I own land, but they are stores. It states that I cannot post events such as "Half Price Sale" Or Come Visit My Store"
3. I tried to post an Event today @ my store and the coordinates given on the events website, plop the AV somewhere NOWHERE near the store when they click teleport.

I have many issues with A LOT of the new stuff being implimented in the game. Lindens, you MAY think you are making things better by changing all this, but you really aren't. As for the event calender...if ppl want to find a specific event, thats what search is there for. Why should ALL of us be punished because some don't know how to use it?

Please...make it go back to the way it was. This is seriously hindering me and lots of others who don't have the cajones to say anything.

Lilly
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