An interesting bit of hypocrisy

I don't want to join the group. I guess I'll just have to let those who know better than me decide what is best.

I see. So join or shut up. Okay fine. I get it Coco.

No. Either join or don't join. Or start up a group of your own, or join some other group whose goals you do agree with.

coco

Why bother? You obviously have justice covered.

I'd like to invite everyone to the 'Group for Citizen's rights' as a counterbalance to the 'Metaverse Justice watch' ... rather than indicting the 'governance' of the Lindens, I'd like to present a forum and group interested in permitting people to create and share, without fear of theft or intimidation. I'd also like to make it clear that this group is open to the public and stands by a one-person-one-vote philosophy if there ever is any kind of local in-world 'government' by the citizens.

The following statement in the "agenda" notecard, particularly the second point, posted at the end of the first post in this thread translated to me that the value of the $L should come before players money supply needs. I even heard it from a linden that if necessary cutting of stipends would be acceptable to maintain the "stability of the economy" Should players who willingly choose to put money into SL expect to make money off SL??? Isn't that what investment means? Don't get me wrong most of that below makes sense to me and looks like a good thing, but I do not agree that money being put into SL should be controlled in such a way as to hinder another's participation unless they are willing to SL work for it.

Oh I quite agree...

Money talks... and right now Anshe holds a helluva lot of it. But I have for a long time, refused to buy or sell property from/to her. Infinitely stupid is what it is...

So since I have the second largest parcel on my sim and the person who has the largest parcel is selling... can I crown myself Queen of the sim? LOL Good God, how people get so full of themselves. And I have yet to see a Linden respond. Perhaps they are wiping the egg off their faces?

Actually musicteacher, to be fair, Coco, herself didn't say that people were lazy for not getting involved in this group or being at the town hall meeting. It was a member of the group she's supporting who said it. I am highlighting a point by saying that she herself thinks I'm lazy and a tourist.

Also, to add to my point earlier and your point about the Democratic party Coco. The general impression of a member of the Democratic party is pro choice, pro welfare, anti defense spending. So, yeah, the group you're in? Does influence how others see you.

Thanks, musicteacher. I don't read that as a call to end stipends, though. And I will oppose any such.

coco

As have I. I'm sorry, but if you're a member of a group and you speak ABOUT that group, you are REPRESENTING the group. It's that simple. Talk around in circles all you want Mulch, you're quite good at it.

BWAHAHAHA. Thanks Nolan for taking the time to do that. *points to that post* See, Coco, THAT'S what I was talking about.

LoL

How long did it take you to find "I may think you are a prick" and how important was it that you would take time out of your day and look that hard for a stretch such as "I may think?"

Bravo time well spent.

I wish I WAS a troll to get that kind of response from you, the it would be REALLY funny!

There's an awful lot of folks I know who only ever paid $10, but I still consider to be of value to SL - while I'm the first to insist that the bills must be paid, there are things of value other than money, and these folks own no land but produce great things nonetheless. This is not semantics; SL needs creativity as much as it needs money, because without the creativity THERE IS NO MONEY.

Are they the majority? Hardly; the creative minority of any society is just that... but they are "stakeholders" too.

Perhaps it is merely a language issue, in which case I'd suggest either running things in Anshe's native language (German, isn't it?) or having a native speaker assist in those matters.



Gee, maybe because I WAS AT A REPEATER, LIKE MOST EVERYONE ELSE.

In any case, I would not be interested in your group. I do not support any form of grid-wide rules or government beyond the most basic and tenuious formed by the TOS, and would be happer if SL had moved to the "open protocol" stage so even that would not be needed.

Do I support some form of rule? Of course - I'm in Neualtenburg. Which is wholly voluntary - you can read the rules on the website, and you can agree and pay yer money or decide not to.

Thank you for clearing that up, Katja.

Yes, if you are going to be a Democrat, you should agree with the overall views of the party, and work within to change those points of the platform you disagree with.

But if everyone had to agree with everyone else, have the same perspective on everything as everyone else, be responsible for everyone else's utterances, etc., there would be no Democratic party at all. There would be no politics, and nothing would ever get done.

I am very much in agreement with the general and overall position of the group, and with all the points of the agenda, to varying degrees. It isn't necessary for me to agree with Anshe's every statement, or love Mulch, or want to have Prok's babies, or anything of the kind.

It is the ideas, about which those in the group are in overall agreement, that is important. The details on each will be worked out in future, and I'm free to stay or leave at any point.

coco

Uhhhh, it took all of 10 minutes, simply looking over your 8 mile long post in which you insulted half of SL, and spent 4 or 5 hours writing early this morning.

So to answer your question, about one one-hundreth the time it took you to pen all that trash.

Cheerio!

It's the end of the world as we know it...

I agree entirely, Aliasi.

coco

There was an earthquake?

Im very curious about this "background in media" ... can you provide some additional information about that? There is something about what I've heard and read about professional journalists and much of what Im seeing here that seem like two very different things.

And I'd like to understand better how to reconcile two apparently contradictory sets of information.

Thanks

not end, but reduce when necessary....a year ago I got well over $1000L a week because of ratings...well then the price for ratings went up and I took a major slash, then all ratings 6 months or older were deleted and I took another slash. They won't end the stipends, but LL has said that it is an area they can reduce if necessary to "stabilize the economy" I think most of the members of this group would support that as it helps them and their "investment" I think most of the players like us who depend on those would violently oppose that and request stabilization to take place in other ways. If too much money is coming into SL stop letting people pay for it!

I apologize for insinuating that you called us lazy...I was basing it off Katja's statement and did not realize she was saying that as a member of the group you must believe that. I think this group will end up rather divided on a few issues.

You cheeky monkey!

Saying what I am thinking!

Something certainly seems to have messed up the space-time continuum. I have been sitting here reading the responses of people in the group, and I alternate between laughing and being shocked at the arrogance of a group of self-serving people thinking they speak for all of us.

so are you saying you would prefer that nobody heard of your group or meeting and tha we got a censored version of events??? That's not freedom of the press. I think what this thread shows is that the majority of SL disagrees with what went on...that should say something don't you think?