Your Real-Life Personal Information

Oh yeah?! Well double ditto plus infinity times two! So there!

rofl... damnit I almost called that number

Hey man (OH GOD - I said "man" I sure hope you're not female), I totally understand writers not wanting to be acknowledged - as long as it proves a point, right? That's why we
write after all, isn't it? For personal satisfaction? That's why we look to get published. Damn, if only Stephen King had known that, he could go off the deep end everytime he got mentioned on a website without his knowledge! STALKER!

I posted it so my friends would call. Feel free. Ask for Johnny Lauw.

That was exciting, if random. Have you never been called alliterative before? Self-conscious about your capital M's?

As soon as I'd posted I realised my fatal mistake of missing the times two off the end Years in the playground counted for nought.

I would like to point out that

a) I would like to see maxx's dong
b) I think I must never leave you ppl alone again

and

c) Meh I would still date Prok for the land

LOL

I called 911 once, I lost my Carrera.

Well, Rickard, I certainly will be happy when you change yours.

There once was a fellow named Paul
With a curious mathmatical ball..
It's circumference times eight
Plus the square of it's weight
is his number --- so give him a call!

You just don't get it, do you? So what if Prokofy's occupation is such-and-such in real life, he/she may not want people to know about their real life - you made that decision for Prokofy by releasing real life information, that's a TOS violation but apparently on the Linden Lab Personal Information Secrecy Scale (yes, that's the P.I.S.S. system) it's not personal enough, which is bizarre. You (and possibly even LL after reading Pathfinder's justifications) are just totally missing the point about linking real life information to an avatar that can, should the person who owns the avatar wishes, remain anonymous. Nothing should be allowed to be published by an avatar about any other avatar's real life - full stop - unless permission has been given to.

Are you just pretending to miss this to stir it up some more or are you genuinely incapable of seeing the link you're making?

Oh shit! I KNEW you were Testerd2 Tester!

You're ARed man!

I can't help that I am deformed!

Disclaimer: I have admitted to being deformed, feel free to use this fact in any possible future retorts. *positions ass over hand dryer, gets a 7-10 split*

Alright, now that I have read this thread entirely, here is my comment.

I did a google search on the avatar name. It was quite easy to aquire a limited amount of personal information. Whether it should have posted it here or not has already been decided by Pathfinder as a minor infraction. Case closed. That was quick action, and Prokofy should be grateful.

Prokofy, don't go posting personal information which may lead someone to you. Your profile, your blog and your links are readily available by anyone. Like home security, or computer virii, you must protect yourself. Given your brash nature in these forums and your divulgance of your personal info via profile and website, you leave yourself open. I have no sympathy for you beyond the rules being enforced.

This issue pales in comparasin to other REAL harrassment issues. Prok manages to hijack the attention again, seeking the proverbial "pound of flesh" and making yet another mountain out of a molehill.

Left field strikes again. Took me a minute to figure out what you meant. Change my... point of view? My world? My society?

No, Mr. Always Right, you don't get it.

occupation. -I'll take the hit on this one - although I have never met a writer who wanted anonimity before.


What is it you want supreme commander? Being that you are obviously infallible, and have never done anything wrong in your entire life (re: any post by holier-than-thou-Moopf).

How about we don't make a mountain of a Moopfhill? That is, unless, you feel slighted by everyone and everything like the person you are defending.

I'll bleed for you baby, take me to Golgotha! I won't fight. I promise. I will wash away all your sins. You should be feeling better any minute now...

We all make mistakes Moopf hehe.

Nolan, regardless of how little you posted or how easy it was to find it, it's a terribly tasteless thing to do to a person. I am very disappointed.

It's kinda pointless arguing with you - it wastes time and you're just trolling now by the look of things. You're just flinging anything at me that comes into your head and it's just making you look quite bizarre and, again, unhinged.

And this basically sums up my concern regarding Linden Labs enforcement of the TOS. Linking RL information (regardless of what it is) to an SL avatar is considered a minor infraction and will be dealt with by a slap on the wrist and the poster can continue on posting making light of the issue. The fact that the player that committed the infraction is a Second Life Mentor only exacerbates my concerns.

I don't know either of these players other than having read some posts by them in the forums. As a new player, however, I am extremely concerned that Linden Labs is not taking the issue of privacy seriously enough.

Um, it's not a "case closed" but is still being investigated. You aren't reading all the facts in the case.

Nolan has been harassing and stalking me for weeks, sending IMs, posting on other sites, etc. trying to somehow "out" me or publish a rabid mixture of facts and conjectures and hysteria. I've ignored him.

Yesterday, he sent me 3 messages outlining the fruits of all his "research"

1. My RL name
2. My RL gender and sexual orientation
3. My RL location
4. My RL publications and hence place of business.

This is not information posted on my profile, Weedy. And not posted on anything linked to my profile. Talen thinks he is pulling something from somewhere, but my blog does not contain this information. It is not revealed with my consent.

Excuse me, but I haven't revealed anything of my RL information anywhere. If someone has procured it somehow -- and not from my blog, please get the facts straight -- then they've just been relentlessly stalking me, trolling around trying to find people from other games, getting tidbits of info -- really working over-time like a sleuth. This is not published information.

I do protect myself, by signing on to a TOS that others also sign, in the belief it will be enforced, which says I do not divulge the RL information of anyone in the game if they give it to me if they have not posted it on their profile. Pretty simple rule!

You would like the whole community to sympathize with your griefer experience because you're special. But you can't pull back and see the larger issues that are involved in my case which are identical. Someone is harassing me, stalking me, notecarding me, IMing me, sending me messages for weeks. I just chose to ignore it. When they became more threatening, I alerted Pathfinder. He did nothing. I sent it all to the [email]abuse-manger@secondlife.com[/email] Nothing happened. I finally got the stock answer back now, way after the fact.

Then that person published that information on the forums here, merely leaving out my real life name, and it was deleted. Now what part of "harassment" don't you get???

You're fishing and fishing and fishing to find some justification for what you know is wrong, and would be wrong if it happened to you, and you'd be the first to cry about it:

You cannot take people's RL information they have not supplied on their profiles and disseminate it in the game or post it on the forums. Full stop.



Weedy, this kind of nasty, condescending, hectoring, know-it-all tone is what made me fight you and others in the forum, and I vow to continue that fight. Who are you? You're not the sheriff of SL. And I didn't post personal information to lead someone to me. So if they have procured this, it is wrong.

Back to being serious a moment, I thought that Nolan's comment about the need for shades of gray in order to avoid draconian laws was a valid one. I've always found where people are from to be an interesting point of discussion. Someone might tell me where they live and I might respond with something like "Oh really? Do you know so and so? I think they're from your area." I'm not likely to remember how I came to know that information. Should I be instantly banned for that? Granted Nolan's intent was less benign than that but can you see my point?

Naw. I posted my wrong again, and you don't care. You accused me of *wheedling out*, I painted a very clear picture of what I did wrong, twice, I will take my medicine. I didn't cry *UNFAIR* like Prokofy did last week when she was suspended for intolerance (where were you with your noose then?) and now you're apparently posting just to serve your own purposes (personal reasons? Spite? Who knows with perpetually negative folks.). I do not understand *unhinged*; unless it means always being contrary for the sake of being contrary?

I guess it depends on how "zoomed in" that location is - country, county, town, block, street etc. I think it would also depend on how well you knew the other person, as to whether they would mind you telling a third party. I know I wouldn't mention that somebody was from the same town even, but that might just be me. I'm conscious of other people's wish for privacy, something that I think Nolan isn't.