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Estimate the Size of the FIC

Noel Marlowe
Victim of Occam's Razor
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05-06-2005 08:54
From: David Valentino
Bah..that's last weeks list. There are now 207.


Grrr. Stupid SL Communists. Slackers all of them. Why can't they keep me supplied with an updated FIC list.
Chip Midnight
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05-06-2005 09:41
From: Prokofy Neva
Hehehe you all got 10 alts or friends to come in and say "it's all in a person's head".


uhhhhh, right... because anything that doesn't go your way MUST be the result of some kind of conspiracy :p
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MrsJakal Suavage
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05-06-2005 09:44
From: pandastrong Fairplay
I am going to start a poll to see which number is greater: The number of your alts, or the number of your friends! :D


LOL, no need, we all already know the answer :)
Ursula Madison
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05-06-2005 14:07
From: Prokofy Neva
Hehehe you all got 10 alts or friends to come in and say "it's all in a person's head".

Well, guess what, I don't have to get 10 alts or 10 friends to vote the "12-48" line, more accurate because I believe this poll will right itself with more accurate results soon.

If it doesn't, well, it's like any poll in SL, mine or anybody else's, merely a straw poll, and not a scientific proper sampling.

What, you can't just say "You're right, Ursula... I do use polls to bolster my opinions, even though I recognize they are scientifically invalid." How can there be "more accurate results soon" if its "merely a straw poll?" Something that is inherently inaccurate and invalid will not become "more accurate" no matter how many people post. Or are you psychic, already claiming a majority on that answer because you believe it will eventually become one? What's next, you claim that your favorite candidate IS president because you believe he eventually WILL be?
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Aimee Weber
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05-06-2005 14:10
From: Ursula Madison
What, you can't just say "You're right, Ursula... I do use polls to bolster my opinions, even though I recognize they are scientifically invalid." How can there be "more accurate results soon" if its "merely a straw poll?" Something that is inherently inaccurate and invalid will not become "more accurate" no matter how many people post. Or are you psychic, already claiming a majority on that answer because you believe it will eventually become one? What's next, you claim that your favorite candidate IS president because you believe he eventually WILL be?


LOL. I think I will start the following poll...

Is Aimee Great?
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1. Yes Aimee is great and the inherent reliability of polls confirm this fact.
2. No Aimee sucks, but everybody knows polls are completely inaccurate.

YAY I can't lose!
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BigJohn Jade
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05-06-2005 14:30
From: katykiwi Moonflower
FIC insiders know.. the one and only, original "true Elite" is BigJohn. shhhh....dont let the others know....


Elite is coming back to Kat just got L$ back up to run it thanks to someone that is good friend in game for giving me 100k, I Just need to find right land I want now for Elite but yes IT IS COMING BACK!!!!!!!!!!
Lecktor Hannibal
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05-06-2005 14:32
Hey John,
I hear there are some plots up for sale in Federal. :eek:
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StoneSelf Karuna
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05-06-2005 15:21
From: Ursula Madison
How can there be "more accurate results soon" if its "merely a straw poll?"

my alts can beat up your alts.
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Prokofy Neva
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05-06-2005 16:06
I think it's not too hard to figure out that most people in a poll, even one as "unscientific" as this, agree that there is an elite in the game that has the ear of the game devs.

That's the case of every single game in the universe, and most life situations.

And it's reasonable to assume that out of 27,000, there are 12-48 really influential biggies.

And that's what most people were putting. So I pointed that out.

Then a few oldbies, panicking that the jig was up, began deploying alts, trials, friends, anyone they can grab to get to vote for that other option most people weren't picking, which is that "it is all in a certain person's head," i.e. me.

But I was confident that this would right itself because I think a lot of people who read the forums, even being an admitted tiny minority of the game, think the issue is that there are 12-48 people who are the elites in the game who influence the game devs. You'd think that with the Internet and new more democratic and empowering technology like Ims and 3ds worlds we could get out of that DeGrassi high school that Ingrid is always flashing, but we can't. Human nature is human nature. Nobody how many fancy instant direct democratic real-time polls and 3-D worlds and interactivity you have, there will always be some fucktard trying to step on somebody else to make his way up in the world.

That's all I meant. I've always said it was a straw poll, and never said it was scientific, precisely because of alts and little networks of friends who vote in little posses.

If you want to twist my words saying it is "more accurate" if it doesn't have a storm of fixed votes coming in from the FIC, and saying that this is somehow a reneging of my previous statement that it isn't scientific (false equating the term "more accurate" with "scientific";) -- then do that. You'll discredit yourself, and add fuel to the perception that yeah, the game is run by these few.

If the poll never rights itself back to the obvious flow it had, before it was spammed by FIC, well, ah, such is life. We all know the score.

I know how many alts I have. And I know how many friendship cards I have. And there is no question that I have an overwhelming greater number of friendship cards.
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Juro Kothari
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05-06-2005 16:09
From: Prokofy Neva
Then a few oldbies, panicking that the jig was up, began deploying alts.....

Alts are for pansies. :D
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Juro Kothari
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05-06-2005 16:11
From: Prokofy Neva
I know how many alts I have.

How many? I'd love to know.


Oh, better yet.. why don't we make an event out of it? Like bingo, but you only get 3 chips to toss onto your number card. Hmm.. that could be fun.
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05-06-2005 16:25
From: Cubey Terra
Never let facts stand in the way of a good argument, eh? ;)


Thanks Cubey, I laughed so hard, Im still grinning. Maybe for weeks. Profky remember its all a conspiracy designed to give you a hard time.................lmao :cool:
Siggy Romulus
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05-06-2005 16:58
Let me get this straight...

If a poll changes to reflect your view - then it is "more accurate" and "returning to it's obvious flow"

Else..

It's bogus?


.......right..........

Let the word go out from this place, at this time, that I release Korg Stygian from his status of making the most boneheaded argument on the forums..

Siggy.
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Chip Midnight
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05-06-2005 16:58
From: Prokofy Neva
Then a few oldbies, panicking that the jig was up, began deploying alts, trials, friends, anyone they can grab to get to vote for that other option most people weren't picking, which is that "it is all in a certain person's head," i.e. me.


Dude, get help. Seriously.
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Siggy Romulus
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05-06-2005 17:02
I guess we could use that argument -- or alternatively (alt alt alt) we could use Occams Razor...
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Lianne Marten
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05-06-2005 17:43
From: Siggy Romulus
I guess we could use that argument -- or alternatively (alt alt alt) we could use Occams Razor...



I think Occam's Razor is a little dull after all these years.
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Jillian Callahan
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05-06-2005 18:02
From: Siggy Romulus
I guess we could use that argument -- or alternatively (alt alt alt) we could use Occams Razor...
I would just like to point out that "multiplying entities" takes on new meaning in this context. :D
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Siggy Romulus
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05-06-2005 18:06
Maybe we can call on 'Super Wiki!' to get to the bottom of this!
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Lianne Marten
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05-06-2005 18:08
From: Siggy Romulus
Maybe we can call on 'Super Wiki!' to get to the bottom of this!



That commie is HOT! :eek:
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05-06-2005 18:09
Pretty fly for a red guy!
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Lianne Marten
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05-06-2005 18:12
In Soviet Russia... alts play you!
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Ursula Madison
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05-06-2005 18:33
From: Prokofy Neva
And it's reasonable to assume that out of 27,000, there are 12-48 really influential biggies.

And that's what most people were putting. So I pointed that out.

But that was not what most people were putting... you were wrong.

From: Prokofy Neva
Then a few oldbies, panicking that the jig was up, began deploying alts, trials, friends, anyone they can grab to get to vote for that other option most people weren't picking, which is that "it is all in a certain person's head," i.e. me.

How could you possibly know that this has happened? You assume that a certain thing must be happening because the results aren't going the way you like. You assume that there's no way it could be possible that the results just happen to be the way they are because that's how folks are voting. Is it that hard to believe that you aren't the barometer of what most people think?

From: Prokofy Neva
If you want to twist my words saying it is "more accurate" if it doesn't have a storm of fixed votes coming in from the FIC, and saying that this is somehow a reneging of my previous statement that it isn't scientific (false equating the term "more accurate" with "scientific";) -- then do that. You'll discredit yourself, and add fuel to the perception that yeah, the game is run by these few.

Now you are twisting my words. Or at least I think you were referring to me from the context... its not always easy to tell since you never say who you are replying to, just like you never put the person's name in the quote box when you quote them (sorry, pet peeve). I asked how a straw poll could become more accurate. I never said anything about storms of fixed votes... so by your standards, you must have discredited yourself. Nice work. :D

From: Prokofy Neva
If the poll never rights itself back to the obvious flow it had, before it was spammed by FIC, well, ah, such is life. We all know the score.

Obvious to you, maybe... You are assuming that it must be a result of FIC spamming just to thwart you, when there is a very real possibility that the results just aren't going the way you like.
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Einsman Schlegel
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05-06-2005 20:19
Must... refrain.. must.. refrain.. must.. refrain............... Gah :rolleyes:
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05-06-2005 21:23
From: Jillian Callahan
I would just like to point out that "multiplying entities" takes on new meaning in this context. :D

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05-06-2005 21:24
From: StoneSelf Karuna
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Absoloutly </rimshot>
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