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Land Extortion part 3 1/2 or the pathetic story of an alt

Adohan Zephyr
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02-14-2005 15:14
From: Paris Cellardoor
You must be one of Alby's (Wall Street and more) alts. I will go ahead and announce here that I could give 2 f**ks about the neg rates that have been given to me by Alby and his alts, but what pisses me off is you are all pussies. Neg rate me in my face and don't go around neg rating me when I am offline. ;)

PS. Sorry for hijacking the thread.


Im not An alt And if you wish me to negrate you to your face please IM me in-world and I will gladly meet with you to do so.

Again. Its his land. It isnt crashing the sim. It isnt hurting anyone. Its tough.
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Sensual Casanova
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02-14-2005 15:16
From: Talen Morgan
I see no personal abuse....would you rather me be more politically correct and just refer to you as *edited*? :D


Talen...
Omg I can't believe you just said that... that was beyond low and you are only making yourself look bad.
Wall Street
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02-14-2005 15:22
In accordance with my neighbors wishes, and in an effort to show good faith, I have stopped the prims from spinning so fast. I have also removed the land from re-sale to show my intent to build a musuem.

Don't make me out to be the bad guy, here.
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Adohan Zephyr
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02-14-2005 15:34
From: Wall Street
In accordance with my neighbors wishes, and in an effort to show good faith, I have stopped the prims from spinning so fast. I have also removed the land from re-sale to show my intent to build a musuem.

Don't make me out to be the bad guy, here.



OMG YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION TO ME!!!!111111


BAN HIM!!!!!1111111111oneoneoen



Christ.
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Bruno Buckenburger
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02-14-2005 15:36
From: Talen Morgan
I see no personal abuse....would you rather me be more politically correct and just refer to you as *edited*? :D


Handi-capable. Must go with the positive :-)
Bruno Buckenburger
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02-14-2005 15:38
From: Lianne Marten
Are there "Stepford Husband" communities anywhere?

Touche! And to think I responded to a politically incorrect statement. I'll take my sexist attitudes and leave this thread. :-)
StoneSelf Karuna
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02-14-2005 17:22
From: Talen Morgan
So I'm at my property in Rose when my neighbor asks me what I think of the huge spinning blue tower spewing particles right next to my plot. I go over to look and see that there was a 16m plot for sale at the edge of one of my walls and this huge tower. The screenshot shows the price for the land but fortunately Rheya Linden came by and took care of the problem.

v. from /120/41/35108/1.html
From: Talen Morgan
OMG someone built something on their own land.....how dare they :eek:

From: Talen Morgan
So all your builds are used 24/7?

All your builds are practical and decorative?

Land for sale must be devoid of prims?

I see his scripts as being necessary ....who has seen smoke stacks without smoke...they must have smoke so the scripts are necessary.
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Lash Xevious
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02-14-2005 17:33
You're missing the point. Talen doesn't care much about the build. He just loathes the bunghole who built it. :D
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StoneSelf Karuna
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02-14-2005 17:44
From: Lash Xevious
You're missing the point. Talen doesn't care much about the build. He just loathes the bunghole who built it. :D

so when it happens to talen it's about things that need tp, and when it happens to anyone else it's about the freedom to build whatever you want on your land.

got it.
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Jeska Linden
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02-14-2005 17:51
The personal attacks in this thread have been deleted, please refrain from personally attacking those you do not agree with in the forums.
Lianne Marten
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02-14-2005 17:56
From: Bruno Buckenburger
Touche! And to think I responded to a politically incorrect statement. I'll take my sexist attitudes and leave this thread. :-)


Actually, I wanted you to point me towards them ^_^
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02-14-2005 18:27
From: Lash Xevious
You're missing the point. Talen doesn't care much about the build. He just loathes the bunghole who built it. :D


Ahh its all a bit clearer now..
Lash Xevious
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02-14-2005 18:57
From: StoneSelf Karuna
so when it happens to talen it's about things that need tp, and when it happens to anyone else it's about the freedom to build whatever you want on your land.

got it.



I'll try to explain this without sounding like I'm speaking for anyone. Apparently, one can infer plenty from my otherwise flippant reply.

The person who put up this build has a history of being "obnoxiously griefy" (just a phrase I coined off the top of my head). The person trots around the place invoking names of other griefers who were eventually banned from SL. His replies to this thread are laced with a cartoonish smug attitude about the whole situation. He's practically orgasmic over the attention.

I dunno. Fine by me if you just want to be a smartass. As I'm one too. Only thing I was really hoping this thread would do is bring attention to this griefer and get him out of here.
It's not a personal crusade of mine though.

Disclaimer: the opinions expressed here belong solely to Lash ... and her evil twin Vivica. And her aunt, Princess Taralala, etc., etc.
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StoneSelf Karuna
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02-14-2005 19:03
From: Lash Xevious
I dunno. Fine by me if you just want to be a smartass. As I'm one too. Only thing I was really hoping this thread would do is bring attention to this griefer and get him out of here.

thus, greifing is defensible in some cases, but not in others.
where one stands makes a lot of difference.
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02-14-2005 19:45
From: StoneSelf Karuna
thus, greifing is defensible in some cases, but not in others.
where one stands makes a lot of difference.


Okay. So ... By implying that my sympathy is on a case to case basis, this makes me a less credible person. Thus, my participation in this thread makes Wall's actions less despicable. If I played a more all-compassionate and agreeable character in the forums, maybe I'd be more convincing that my crap don't stink. Got it.

Sheesh.




For the sake of the other residents who are quietly stewing over this, I'll step away from this thread. It wasn't my intent to distract anyone from the situation, that being a well-known griefer is harassing the residents in Sage/Rose area.

On that note, if anyone swings by the Sage/Rose area and sees this build and finds it objectionable, please feel free to abuse report. You're not obliged to though. The Linden present deleted part of the build and said to AR again if the build persists, which gave me a flicker of hope that it is something they do consider objectionable.
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StoneSelf Karuna
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02-14-2005 21:09
From: Lash Xevious
Okay. So ... By implying that my sympathy is on a case to case basis, this makes me a less credible person. Thus, my participation in this thread makes Wall's actions less despicable. If I played a more all-compassionate and agreeable character in the forums, maybe I'd be more convincing that my crap don't stink. Got it.

Sheesh.

i didn't say that. maybe you are projecting some issue of yours onto my comments.
From: someone
For the sake of the other residents who are quietly stewing over this, I'll step away from this thread. It wasn't my intent to distract anyone from the situation, that being a well-known griefer is harassing the residents in Sage/Rose area.

that all depends on which situation people are attending.
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On that note, if anyone swings by the Sage/Rose area and sees this build and finds it objectionable, please feel free to abuse report. You're not obliged to though. The Linden present deleted part of the build and said to AR again if the build persists, which gave me a flicker of hope that it is something they do consider objectionable.

i seem to recall that calling for social action was considered extortion in the other thread.

it's always different when the shoe is on the other foot.
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02-14-2005 21:17
From: StoneSelf Karuna
i didn't say that. maybe you are projecting some issue of yours onto my comments.

that all depends on which situation people are attending.

i seem to recall that calling for social action was considered extortion in the other thread.

it's always different when the shoe is on the other foot.
I think one of the signs of the apocalypse is StoneSelf saying something which isn't contrary in the forums. Looks like the world is safe for now. :D

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StoneSelf Karuna
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02-14-2005 21:26
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
I think one of the signs of the apocalypse is StoneSelf (His Grouse) saying something which isn't contrary in the forums. Looks like the world is safe for now. :D

~Ulrika~

i posted to this thread:
/140/74/35846/1.html

and then realized that i had to do something to forestall the end of the world.
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02-14-2005 21:38
From: StoneSelf Karuna
i posted to this thread:
/140/74/35846/1.html
Gasp!

That is truly wonderful StoneSelf. What a great valentine's day post. :D

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Talen Morgan
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02-14-2005 22:26
From: StoneSelf Karuna
i didn't say that. maybe you are projecting some issue of yours onto my comments.

that all depends on which situation people are attending.

i seem to recall that calling for social action was considered extortion in the other thread.

it's always different when the shoe is on the other foot.



Stone, the other thread was about a person who actually took the time to build something. If Wall street had built a smokestack I would care less.. the other thread it was even said and noted that the builder wasnt trying to extort anyone and his land was set for sale at a modest price.

THis case alby intentionally threw up grimmy prims on purpose and set the land (16m2 ) for sale for $599. You can defend (edited) all you want....plain and simple he wants the attention and I aim to give it to him because the more attention he gets the closer he gets to the door.
Talen Morgan
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02-14-2005 22:26
From: Sensual Casanova
Talen...
Omg I can't believe you just said that... that was beyond low and you are only making yourself look bad.



Sensual...pot...kettle...black
Hiro Pendragon
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02-14-2005 23:35
Alby / Wall Street,

You make it difficult for people like me to argue in defense of landowners' rights when you pull crap like this. Are you trying to make a point, like, "We could use land zoning" or "we need better policies for griefers"? The point has been made over and over. You're nothing new and not original.

If you want your museum to be succesful, start by being less of a crappy neighbor. :(
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Shiryu Musashi
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02-15-2005 00:52
From: Talen Morgan
Stone, the other thread was about a person who actually took the time to build something. If Wall street had built a smokestack I would care less.. the other thread it was even said and noted that the builder wasnt trying to extort anyone and his land was set for sale at a modest price.


Actually that build was a misguided attempt to grief back someone that damaged him, and even if i can understand the frustration i think that answering to grief with grief is a bad idea, because it affects the whole neightborhood. And no, the price was not modest for a 512 sqmeters of not really desirable water.

From: someone
THis case alby intentionally threw up grimmy prims on purpose and set the land (16m2 ) for sale for $599. You can defend the asshole all you want....plain and simple he wants the attention and I aim to give it to him because the more attention he gets the closer he gets to the door.


I think he is not defending anyone, he is just pointing out that the same arguments that you used to defend the smokestacks can be easily stretched to defend the griefing build you posted about. I think it should be removed myself, but you can't really complain if someone uses your words against you. When adressing such kind of problems one should always ask himself "what if it happens to me?".
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02-15-2005 01:59
From: Shiryu Musashi
Actually that build was a misguided attempt to grief back someone that damaged him, and even if i can understand the frustration i think that answering to grief with grief is a bad idea, because it affects the whole neightborhood. And no, the price was not modest for a 512 sqmeters of not really desirable water.


I saw the persons build and the sale price. The price was in line with land prices not $37 a meter like ol Wall Street is ( or was ) trying to extort. Also the person had a real build and honestly it looked good. Whether or not there was motive to get someone back I don't know....but if that was built next to me I wouldn't mind it. What Wall built isn't a build or an advertisement...he's trying to be like grimmy and grief people intentionally and he's not too good at it.


From: someone

I think he is not defending anyone, he is just pointing out that the same arguments that you used to defend the smokestacks can be easily stretched to defend the griefing build you posted about. I think it should be removed myself, but you can't really complain if someone uses your words against you. When adressing such kind of problems one should always ask himself "what if it happens to me?".


As for my words being used against me I considered that before I posted....again the other post was about a real build on a peice of land for sale at going rates. What is ontop of my border and others in the sim are spinning cubes with pictures of a known griefer on them with the land set to extreme price...of course now he took it off the market just so he can say that wasnt his intent.

Personally I don't care about the build as much as I care about the person behind it. This isn't Wall Streets first or last grief attempt and he deserves no less than to be shown the door. Before this he was Shepp Proudfoot and we all know who he really is. The real intent of the thread was to call out a known asshole yet again.
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02-15-2005 07:18
From: Wall Street
In the spirit of goodness, I shall make my museum less "hazardous" by reducing the spin of some particles.

Its a gesture of goodwill on my part. I'm trying to be a good neighbor.

ps, I won't be IW until 5pm CST tonight.


Gee, thank you, Unagriefer!
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