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Land Extortion part 3 1/2 or the pathetic story of an alt

Devlin Gallant
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02-15-2005 07:20
From: blaze Spinnaker
God.

How low is the IQ of the SL community that this sort of thing gets even more than 2 seconds of our time?

This guy is obviously just yanking your chains.

Sigh. This whole place is a big disappointment sometimes.



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Devlin Gallant
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02-15-2005 07:23
From: Jeska Linden
The personal attacks in this thread have been deleted, please refrain from personally attacking those you do not agree with in the forums.


Uhm, no.
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Wall Street
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02-15-2005 08:00
From: Talen Morgan
Stone, the other thread was about a person who actually took the time to build something. If Wall street had built a smokestack I would care less.. the other thread it was even said and noted that the builder wasnt trying to extort anyone and his land was set for sale at a modest price.

THis case alby intentionally threw up grimmy prims on purpose and set the land (16m2 ) for sale for $599. You can defend the asshole all you want....plain and simple he wants the attention and I aim to give it to him because the more attention he gets the closer he gets to the door.


I have placed the land not for sale.
I have modified my build so they spin less fast.

I have done what was asked and yet I am still viewed as griefing you. What do you want? Me to take the build down completely? No, I will not do that. I'm within my rights, harming nobody, and not even trying to sell the land anymore.

If you dont like my build.... get over it. I'm done trying to accommodate this board full of crybabies.
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Wall Street
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02-15-2005 08:01
From: Hiro Pendragon

If you want your museum to be succesful, start by being less of a crappy neighbor. :(


I have modified my builds to make them less objectionable. All in all, I'm being very accomodative. I'm not even trying to sell the land anymore. I intend to stay there forever.
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Wall Street
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02-15-2005 08:05
And no, I am not Alby Yellowknife or Shepp Proudfoot.

*sheesh*
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Annah Zamboni
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02-15-2005 08:16
What happened to your 'unibomber' looking forum AV? Its a carebear now. You dont have to answer I think I know why you changed it. heh

Anyways, where is your museum and what is it about, as I usually dont even bother reading those huge obnoxious spinning ads i bump into in SL from time to time.
Wall Street
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02-15-2005 08:22
From: Annah Zamboni
What happened to your 'unibomber' looking forum AV? Its a carebear now. You dont have to answer I think I know why you changed it. heh

Anyways, where is your museum and what is it about, as I usually dont even bother reading those huge obnoxious spinning ads i bump into in SL from time to time.


I changed it because I feel a carebear more accurately represents my personality than a crazy domestic terrorist.

My museum is in Rose. Can't miss it... its the one that everyone has built walls around... talk about being a bad neighbor... they block me IN :-(

Snuggles,
Wall
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Devlin Gallant
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02-15-2005 08:25
Sigh, what an (edited). :mad:
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Mac Beach
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02-15-2005 09:19
From: Wall Street
My museum is in Rose. Can't miss it... its the one that everyone has built walls around... talk about being a bad neighbor... they block me IN :-(


Curiosity got the best of me. I couldn't find anything in Rose that was walled-in other than more of these spinning cubes.

Why I expected to find anything else I don't know. Just an optimist I guess.
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Wall Street
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02-15-2005 09:24
From: Mac Beach
Curiosity got the best of me. I couldn't find anything in Rose that was walled-in other than more of these spinning cubes.

Why I expected to find anything else I don't know. Just an optimist I guess.


Those "spinning cubes" as you put it are the starting points of the most glorious musuem SL has ever seen.

And FYI, they light up at night.

Wuggles,
Wall
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Mac Beach
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02-15-2005 09:58
From: Taun Patel
I have made this suggestion in the new Hotline forum. I would encourage all interested parties to endorse or condemn this suggestion there.
Well, since the thread you posted that to can no longer be added to, here is my response to Philip's request for TOS language.
From: Philip Linden
What is a reliable way to determine if someone is putting pressure on adjacent landowners? Inotherwards, write up a written paragraph that we would add to TOS/Community standards that defines the standard that Linden CS personnel would use in evaluating abuse claims regarding land 'exortion'.
OK, here is my paragraph:
From: someone
(iv) take any action or upload, post, e-mail or otherwise transmit Content as determined by Linden at its sole discretion that is harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, causes tort, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive of another's privacy, hateful, racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable;
Pretty well written, if I do say so myself.

I like that idea that whenever possible the rules of SL can be enforced by means of automation. That little dialog box that pops up whenever someone bumps into you is a perfect example. There are other situations where the rules can't be automated, but the rules can be so clear-cut that (almost) anyone can interpret them unambiguously.

Then there are cases that not only require human intervention, but also a certain amount of judgment on the part of both users and Linden Labs. I don't think this last category can ever be eliminated, if for no other reason than that there are people who make it their life's work to find them.
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Annah Zamboni
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02-15-2005 10:05
Too bag there isnt a Lag tab on the in game map that color codes plots of land based on the load they are putting on their Sim in proportion to their land size. This would be measured offline or some other way; ie not an on going real time measure. If they had some quick way to compute this based on a set of equal factors. Then if someones land had a huge lag factor in proportion to its size then it would at least draw attention to possible problems. But then again it could lead to unjusitfied witch hunts against people that dont know they are causing it. On the other hand it could lead to getting some of the lag dealt with and under control. Im sure Im not the first to suggest this, nor am I sure its even possible.
Talen Morgan
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02-15-2005 10:05
From: Wall Street
Those "spinning cubes" as you put it are the starting points of the most glorious musuem SL has ever seen.

And FYI, they light up at night.

Wuggles,
Wall


So, if your museum is where all the lil spinning cubes are why do you need more spinning cubes across the sim? Face it Wall you're a pathetic asshole and you barely do a good job at that. Your online profile says it best ...what does it say again? oh yeah thats right " I'm gay, so fuck me up the ass" .
Trifen Fairplay
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02-15-2005 10:49
this is slightly off current topic but i feel it needs to be mentioned.


I am the founder of the group Land Co. an honest land trade buisness

NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH LAND CORP. (the group name in the screenshot)

I am not affiliated with these people! :)


that said, its a shame for people to try and sell land for 3X or more the going market value, and then claim they arent trying to make a profit threw extortion. If it was wall streets attempt to make a museum what purpose does any of this stupid content serve? and why would you sell your land anyways if trying to expand. 16m2 is a joke of land quantity, and only allows 3 prims. its obvious wall streets story is BS and he is attempting to save face, but everyone can see threw the cr*p.

in general I am against building restrictions and zoning rules, for it limits the creativity and enjoyment for the entire playerbase, but it seems without some structure we will be over run by pricks trying to make a quick buck unless something is set into motion.
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Wall Street
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02-15-2005 11:20
Triffen, I am no longer trying to sell the land. I'm in for the long haul. And it is true, I am not affiliated with your group at all - or even ever conducted business with you. The vast majority of the plots I purchased for musuem development were from AnsheCorp.

And Talen, that profile is from a period when I was going through a very psychologically uncomfortable/challenging time. I just have not had the chance to update it as of late.

To make you happy, I will update it tonight in accordance with my new mantra, "Make the World Happy". It will be all cuddles and smiles. :p

Love the world,
Wall
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Prokofy Neva
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02-15-2005 12:03
Here's a perfect example when everyone in this thread needs to reach for their negrate button. It's legal. Negrate the sucker, so that he has a negated rep and cannot collect Linden dollars for whatever plusses he has been able to garner to date.

Also, AR him for affecting the enjoyment of your game.

Making the spinning a little less isn't a solution. This griefer needs to go. Put walls up all around his land on your side. Put clear tiles on your side, and ugly rusted roof tin or whatever you got on your side.

Griefing does require within-TOS griefing to respond, when it escales to this terrorist level.
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Alby Yellowknife
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02-15-2005 13:03
From: Paris Cellardoor
You must be one of Alby's (Wall Street and more) alts. I will go ahead and announce here that I could give 2 f**ks about the neg rates that have been given to me by Alby and his alts, but what pisses me off is you are all pussies. Neg rate me in my face and don't go around neg rating me when I am offline. ;)

PS. Sorry for hijacking the thread.





Thats funny Paris... Because I recall you Neg Rating me on my land in Cowell and running without me being able to return the favor..

Its funny that you don't live by the gospel you preach..
Alby Yellowknife
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02-15-2005 13:05
From: Talen Morgan
Stone, the other thread was about a person who actually took the time to build something. If Wall street had built a smokestack I would care less.. the other thread it was even said and noted that the builder wasnt trying to extort anyone and his land was set for sale at a modest price.

THis case alby intentionally threw up grimmy prims on purpose and set the land (16m2 ) for sale for $599. You can defend the asshole all you want....plain and simple he wants the attention and I aim to give it to him because the more attention he gets the closer he gets to the door.




Sorry. I haven't Grimmy'ed anything... I don't have Multiple Alts, and your LL friends can backup my statements.
Lash Xevious
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02-15-2005 13:30
From: StoneSelf Karuna
i didn't say that. maybe you are projecting some issue of yours onto my comments.

that all depends on which situation people are attending.

i seem to recall that calling for social action was considered extortion in the other thread.

it's always different when the shoe is on the other foot.


Your replies make me smile, you know. I always want to add "Confucius says" to each clique.
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Alby Yellowknife
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02-15-2005 13:46
If You Don't Own The Land, You Have No Voice.



Paris Cellardoor
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02-15-2005 14:47
From: Alby Yellowknife
Thats funny Paris... Because I recall you Neg Rating me on my land in Cowell and running without me being able to return the favor..

Its funny that you don't live by the gospel you preach..



(edited) ...What was there to return???? :D I wasn't the running pussy! ;)
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02-15-2005 20:35
This thread has outlived its usefulness and personal attacks have continued despite the previous warning, as such the thread has been closed.
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