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Land Extortion part 3 1/2 or the pathetic story of an alt

Chip Midnight
ate my baby!
Join date: 1 May 2003
Posts: 10,231
02-14-2005 08:11
From: Talen Morgan
He wants to be Grimmy so it seems but what he doesn't realize that the more attention he gets will get him closer to being banned.


We can hope :D hehe.
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Rose Karuna
Lizard Doctor
Join date: 5 Jun 2004
Posts: 3,772
02-14-2005 08:15
From: Wall Street
Self Government, anyone?


No and your lag inducing, multi particle builds won't convince me that it's needed either. :rolleyes:
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Devlin Gallant
Thought Police
Join date: 18 Jun 2003
Posts: 5,948
02-14-2005 10:02
From: Wall Street
If anyone can show me the specific passage of the TOS I am violating, I will happily deconstruct my museum.

Short of that, I am free to build as I please.


Why don't you follow your own advice in the first line of your siggy. SLwise I mean.
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Devlin Gallant
Thought Police
Join date: 18 Jun 2003
Posts: 5,948
02-14-2005 10:04
From: Wall Street
More personal attacks and abuse. Don't be surprised if the one that gets banned from SL is YOU.


Can you say: 'ASSHAT'? I knew you could. :rolleyes:
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Devlin Gallant
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02-14-2005 10:05
From: Wall Street
No, what I want is to have a successful museum.


No, what you want is attention. You have proved that multiple times with your infantile drivel and behavior.
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Taun Patel
Geothermal Madman
Join date: 5 Mar 2004
Posts: 222
02-14-2005 10:10
Selling tiny, useless plots with the intention of making gobs of money to open a successful museum is extortion, it not good business practice. I would expect that people will not visit a museum that was built upon these actions, either. There are plenty of ways to get the cash to start a successful build, such as buying L$ on the 3rd party sites, selling objects people actually want, designing clothes or even winning contests. Your actions won't win you friends, and they certainly will not win you patrons for your museum.
Bruno Buckenburger
Registered User
Join date: 30 Dec 2004
Posts: 464
02-14-2005 10:19
From: Wall Street
I am not sure what all the hubub is about. I am extorting nobody.. I am merely building on my own land. I happen to like my builds, I do not think they are ugly and they are going to grow into full-fledged large museums once I get enough visitors to fund my expansion.

I am harming nobody, I am residing within the TOS, and I am merely trying to start a business. I cannot understand why you think this is extortion. I'm not forcing - or even asking - you to buy the land.

Misunderstood,
Wall Street


More power to you. I'm tired of people whining at the wrong targets. If Linden has a problem with this then Linden has the technical means to deal with it. But if Linden gives you, me or anyone else the opportunity to by x amount of land and place x amount of objects on it then you should be able to do what you want with your land.

And before anyone accuses me of being cool with this because it is NIMBY, come on over to Champlain and see some of the crap we have over there. If you really want to get away from it move into one of the planned 'Stepford Wife' communities popping up.
Lianne Marten
Cheese Baron
Join date: 6 May 2004
Posts: 2,192
02-14-2005 10:21
From: Bruno Buckenburger
More power to you. I'm tired of people whining at the wrong targets. If Linden has a problem with this then Linden has the technical means to deal with it. But if Linden gives you, me or anyone else the opportunity to by x amount of land and place x amount of objects on it then you should be able to do what you want with your land.

And before anyone accuses me of being cool with this because it is NIMBY, come on over to Champlain and see some of the crap we have over there. If you really want to get away from it move into one of the planned 'Stepford Wife' communities popping up.



Are there "Stepford Husband" communities anywhere?
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Taun Patel
Geothermal Madman
Join date: 5 Mar 2004
Posts: 222
02-14-2005 10:24
I have made this suggestion in the new Hotline forum. I would encourage all interested parties to endorse or condemn this suggestion there.
Maxx Monde
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Join date: 14 Nov 2003
Posts: 1,848
02-14-2005 10:48
From: Wall Street
Nope. Haven't done any of those. I'm within the TOS.


The best part about abiding by the letter versus the intent of the TOS, is that, at the core, you are still an @$$h@t. Oh? My intent was just to use the '@' and '$' in an innocuous pattern, I'm so sorry if you read that as 'asshat'.

Its totally *not* what I mean, like, ohmigaw!
Shadow Weaver
Ancient
Join date: 13 Jan 2003
Posts: 2,808
02-14-2005 10:58
From: Maxx Monde
The best part about abiding by the letter versus the intent of the TOS, is that, at the core, you are still an @$$h@t. Oh? My intent was just to use the '@' and '$' in an innocuous pattern, I'm so sorry if you read that as 'asshat'.

Its totally *not* what I mean, like, ohmigaw!


Maxx what ever it is your taking you better share dammit...LMAO
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Lash Xevious
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Join date: 8 May 2004
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02-14-2005 11:06
I didn't get riled up from this build. No one present there really did. The mood among everyone was as if ... an insolent orangutan came into the room and left droppings of his turds everywhere. We, not being insolent orangutans, could only shrug and sigh at this behaviour.

But that's just it. It feels like baby-sitting. I didn't sign up for that.

It's like this: You know that we know you know. The lindens know that you know we know that we know you know. Everyone who reads this knows that you know we know and the Lindens know. And blah-blippety-blah-blah.

It's all so dumb. And lame. Yet we have to act like adults while this immature, trying hard behaviour is tolerated.
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Taun Patel
Geothermal Madman
Join date: 5 Mar 2004
Posts: 222
02-14-2005 11:39
Lash, it would be fine if it just rotated and wasn't a big deal. The one near the shopping center is not bad. The one on the hill, however, is dangerous to look at. I placed objects over it to block it.
Wall Street
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Join date: 20 Aug 2004
Posts: 312
02-14-2005 11:49
In the spirit of goodness, I shall make my museum less "hazardous" by reducing the spin of some particles.

Its a gesture of goodwill on my part. I'm trying to be a good neighbor.

ps, I won't be IW until 5pm CST tonight.
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02-14-2005 12:11
From: Lash Xevious

It's like this: You know that we know you know. The lindens know that you know we know that we know you know. Everyone who reads this knows that you know we know and the Lindens know. And blah-blippety-blah-blah.

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EXACTLY!!!!!
Brian Mifflin
Scripting Addict
Join date: 15 Dec 2004
Posts: 182
02-14-2005 12:53
From: Lash Xevious
I didn't get riled up from this build. No one present there really did. The mood among everyone was as if ... an insolent orangutan came into the room and left droppings of his turds everywhere. We, not being insolent orangutans, could only shrug and sigh at this behaviour.


Same here, and same with a couple of Sage residents. I talked to him personally when I first saw the build and inquired why it was there. I told him the truth in somewhat polite manner and he said "your mean." That's a quote, I for one hope I have better grammar. Anyway, if anyone would like one it seems that he has one of the signs for sale at $L25! I am going to hold off to leave more for all of you!

This is the Rose/Sage border museum:
blaze Spinnaker
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Join date: 12 Aug 2004
Posts: 5,898
02-14-2005 13:03
God.

How low is the IQ of the SL community that this sort of thing gets even more than 2 seconds of our time?

This guy is obviously just yanking your chains.

Sigh. This whole place is a big disappointment sometimes.
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Brian Mifflin
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02-14-2005 13:09
From: blaze Spinnaker
How low is the IQ of the SL community that this sort of thing gets even more than 2 seconds of our time?

This guy is obviously just yanking your chains.


I honestly have an above average IQ, but I find this problem very annoying. It is very close to my land. I'd have to say less than 65m for the big one, and 15m for the small one. It is ugly to look at, and I don't find just not looking at it to be something I should have to do. What other outlet do we have? I took Rheya Linden's advice and abuse reported it, but haven't recieved a reply. I also talked to Wall Street on a few occasions, I am sure you know how that went. Do you have another idea?
katykiwi Moonflower
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Join date: 5 Dec 2003
Posts: 1,489
02-14-2005 13:11
From: Shiryu Musashi
My point is that with the current rules everyone can build WHATEVER he wants on his land, including what Al... ahem Wall Street built, and put it for sale for whatever price he wants.
Not really...depends on who you know.

The resolution of this kind of situation is so arbitrary. Last year a new member was suspended for 3 days because he built a tower like this when he was new. He didnt do it to try to force people to buy him out, it was just a regular old noob build with spinning prims. The build was designed to be temporary and he really was just a noob experimenting with prims and textures.

The other property owners in the sim were upset to see it and they messaged every Linden online to the build. There was nothing in the build that violated the TOS or CS but the other land owners in the sim thought it a hideous eyesore. Since the other land owners were VERY CLOSE TO THE LINDENS involved, the noob build was deleted by a Linden immediately and the new member was suspended for 3 days.

The only reason it seems that the current tower is allowed to remain is because the complainant lacks the inside pull required to get the tower demolished. If you know the right Lindens you can get eyesores torn down regardless of a lack of TOS violation and get the builder suspended to boot.

It's truly disgusting to encounter uneven treatment merely because one member is friends with the Lindens and the other is not.
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Planet Mars
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Join date: 10 Feb 2004
Posts: 159
02-14-2005 13:12
Not so long ago this player left a spinning, particle-spewing Grimmy sign on one of my plots right next to a telehub... he claimed it had been left by accident ;)
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blaze Spinnaker
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Join date: 12 Aug 2004
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02-14-2005 13:41
Move into a zoned sim.

And for goodness sakes, put these idiots on ignore and stop replying to their posts.
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"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Cristiano Midnight
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Join date: 17 May 2003
Posts: 8,616
02-14-2005 14:17
Am I mistaken, or was that Grimmy poster not considered to be hate speech by the Lindens originally?
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Aimee Weber
The one on the right
Join date: 30 Jan 2004
Posts: 4,286
02-14-2005 14:30
The important issue here is....

*I* was the one that started embedding messages in text by changing the color of select characters! :O

I demand royalties!!

:D
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Adohan Zephyr
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02-14-2005 14:33
Wall Street has bought land and build on it, You dont like his build, tough.
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Paris Cellardoor
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Join date: 28 Dec 2003
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02-14-2005 14:42
From: Adohan Zephyr
Wall Street has bought land and build on it, You dont like his build, tough.


You must be one of Alby's (Wall Street and more) alts. I will go ahead and announce here that I could give 2 f**ks about the neg rates that have been given to me by Alby and his alts, but what pisses me off is you are all pussies. Neg rate me in my face and don't go around neg rating me when I am offline. ;)

PS. Sorry for hijacking the thread.
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