Antiwar and Anti-Bush Rally

Then use the city to throw any old kind of event. The fact of the matter is --It's a City.

Things happen in Cities.

I have no clue what you mean by "outside" agenda, but I don't feel this event cheapens our experiment. Rather I think it enobles it, and lifts the purpose of the experiment beyond making a new kind of shopping mall.

And Talen? As co-founder of this project, I'm fairly sure I know what this project was or was never meant to be.

I'll be there.

If the rest of you have that many political problems with free expression in a Free Speech City, then drive on through.

I'll have more hope for our own election process then.

Moo.

Can someone sum up, in a sentence or two, what the Neualtenburg city/project was supposed to be about?

dunno anymore Hank but I pulled out of it because of this and also my support. I dont wish to discuss my political ideas about RL in SL.

You know exactly what I mean by outside agenda. IF you are so sure what this project was meant to be then why did you let it get misrepresented when looking for land donations?

Sad fact is this project could have meant something to SL...but now it will become what you obviously wanted from the begining ..a platform for your liberal agenda. Don't get me wrong I dont like democrats or republicans but I was encouraged by the idea that we could try a govermental system within SL without those outside influences....congrats you've taken all that hard work and flushed it because now Neualtenburg is meaningless.

Also...as " co-founder" what happened to the people of Neualtenburg voting on issues and proposals.....or have you decided that wasn't the plan now as well?

So it would be MY fault if you don't add your voice to the mosaic of the city?
Just because YOU don't bring your voice to the choir, I'm supposed to be silent?

I have never mis-represented what the project is about. You on the otherhand seek to flush hardwork down the toilet because an event is to be scheduled in the city that you don't like.

One thing Neulaltenburg will NEVER be about is censorship.

I have a problem with the way things were layed out. The fact is this has absolutely nothing to do with free speech. It has to do with certain people airing their agenda's. I thought the people had a say in the city and the project...I was obviously mistaken.

Fine --when we have an issue or proposal on the table we'll vote.
This is an event. Throw an event. Who is stopping you?

Neualtenburg was never represented to be about outside politics and ...do I really need to pull up all the political threads to prove my point.

I don't want you to be silent but I also don't want you subverting my tier to air your outside agendas...Where did anyone read that outside political agendas would be a part of the city? I do believe I read that the people of the city had a voice and a vote but obviously you feel that the 2 of you control the city which makes it even less of what it was supposed to be.

This is an issue that should have been brought to the table. I didn't intend my hard earned money to be used by peoples outside political agenda's be they right or left....I know for a fact toy didn't either. I was under the impression this was an SL experiment and to be entirely about government in SL....I know for a fact many others did to.

Oh. And Ace? I'll be looking for a way to protest at your Pro-War Monument as well.

If you consider it some sort of contamination to be political about the deaths of hundreds of our sons and daughters, then you're a bit on the slow side.

In MY world, there areno political issues that AREN'T about life and death. I don't give a crap about your tax rates, or whether gays get married or live in sin. I don't care if you like Blacks or Chinese or Democrats or Electronic Music. I don't care about your quality of life or how much money you think the poor people are sucking out of your pocket.

However, when children go hungry, or die of curable deseases, or people are locked up for calling the President names, or demonstrators are shot in the street again, or Good Ol Boys beat the crap out of Librals for fun, or 10s of thousands die for reasons no one ever seems to be able to justify to more than half of us at a time, then I care.

I particularily detest your insinuation that anyone who would protest against the war is dishonoring the soldiers who died in that war. That is not only simple-minded, but as unpatriotic as it is possible to be. It is also the very worst way to prevent your death roll from growing. YOU seem to be the one who is profiting most from the dead here. How is your dwell?

Do NOT imply that I am not a patriotic American. That kind of crap is dangerously close to MY threshold of non-violence.

I swore once to defend the Constitution - including the First Amendment - from all enemies - foriegn and DOMESTIC. Don't go out of your way to be such an enemy. I you have made your monument a public space, and I want to stand there and speak my mind, then I have as much right as the next person. If you can't handle that, then you need to stop pretending you're non-partisan. You are actually running a pro-war monument to the dead.

Twisted.

Sometimes war is a good thing.

You do have a voice. You do have a vote. I wasn't aware that any law existed in Neualtenburg that an "event" had to be approved by the city populace. As I say --wanna thow an event --throw one --as a citizen you are more than entitled with or without "permission" from the city populace.

Ulrika and I are representinjg OUR views. Not the views of Neualtenburg. As citizens of Neualtenburg we are entitled to use the lands for an event of our choosing. So are you.

I still don't know what you mean by "outside". If you refer to RL events as opposed to SL -- then yes -- it is outside. If we have to limit all opinions to only IW matter, then I will be the one to withdraw MY support from the city.

So the whole purpose of starting a governmental system within SL was bullshit? By bringing in outside agendas it seriously undermines what we were talking about achieving. From what I was aware it was meant to be a way to bring people together not divide them. As you can see now Kathy is decrying Ace's memorial to be pro war...good fucking show.

Why the attack on Ace ? Criminies some of you folks need to breathe a lungful of fresh air.

Yes Talen, anything that has to do with war and Bush is EVIL EVIL EVIL.

Anyone right of an extreme left is a baby eater.

I threw my event this morning, I dropped from Neualtenburg and my support of it.

Yay Toy /clap

Dont worry about it, they marginalize themselves.

AND (I'm mad now) if you folks insist that this is out of line with the governmental intentions of Neualtenburg, then form a government and legislate. It's a bit too early to argue that this is somehow unconstitutional when we haven't even got a Constitution.

Otherwise, I think it would nice if you let everyone know now that you are going to insist that your OWN fantasy govern us all and that we must role-play your preconceptions at all times. And if that is too honest for you, then perhaps you'd be kind enough to let us know you're leaving. Then we can find more people to replace you before it's too late.

Or, better yet, maybe I need to move along myself.

Now, I guess, I'd like to hear from folks who think we should by an island sim. Unless, of course, Neualtenburg is going to continue to be free.

Wiggles....now isn't the time...find yourself a fluffy thread to play in because there is going to be some serious skull fucking here...and I'm not very picky when it comes to skulls

I'm a big boy.

Edit: I wont get in the way though.

Congratulations, Kathy. You popped that banlist's cherry and have become the land's one and only banned AV. I'm sure you will wear that as a badge of honor



*bemused smile*... Look it up yourself.



Thank you for telling me what I'm actually doing. I was so confused.

- Ace

Lol I was also referring to them freeking out over a war memorial in case you think I was ragging on you.