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So you thought the witch hunt was over?

Willow Zander
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05-18-2005 03:09
From: Catherine Cotton
So is it safe to say then that Robin has not posted twice in the sluniverse fourms?

Cat



You asked if any SLU members have spoken to Lindens on there.

I haven't, I answered your question did I not?
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blaze Spinnaker
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05-18-2005 03:09
From: someone

Agreed. The forum ban on the blotter yesterday should have happened long ago.


The forum ban on a LOT of people around here should have happened a very very long time ago.

I suspect an aura of civility in these forums would have kept Prokofy far far away.
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Nolan Nash
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05-18-2005 03:17
From: Catherine Cotton
So is it safe to say then that Robin has not posted twice in the sluniverse fourms?

Cat

So now that's wrong?

Lord, talk about grasping for straws.

If you think you can run SL better, and have all the answers, buy them out and run it! Better yet, go get your own VC and fire up your own game. Then you can make up all the rules you want. Maybe you could even lock up your employees 24 hours a day and hire monitors to sure they never speak about the game outside your offices. They, after all, have no claim on humanity anymore because they are in the service of those who participate in your world.

Why is it you seem to only resurface on the forums only in periods of drama when you think you see a chink in LL's armor?
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Nolan Nash
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05-18-2005 03:19
From: blaze Spinnaker
The forum ban on a LOT of people around here should have happened a very very long time ago.

I suspect an aura of civility in these forums would have kept Prokofy far far away.

Hahaha! With the exception of the curmudgeon, Korg, these forums were a walk in the park before Prokofy turned them into his own personal bitch-fest blog.

But I will agree with you, the bans should have come a lot sooner, especially for those who admit to "gaming" the forums.
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Catherine Cotton
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05-18-2005 03:23
From: Willow Zander
You asked if any SLU members have spoken to Lindens on there.

I haven't, I answered your question did I not?


Yup you did. So when Robin posted to the members of SLU she was not talking to you. Got it.

Cat
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Willow Zander
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05-18-2005 03:26
From: Catherine Cotton
Yup you did. So when Robin posted to the members of SLU she was not talking to you. Got it.

Cat


Ok before we start making mountains outta molehills here

As a SLU member yourself, I think you should realise the answer to your own question don't you?

:rolleyes:
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Catherine Cotton
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05-18-2005 03:29
From: Nolan Nash
So now that's wrong?

Lord, talk about grasping for straws.

If you think you can run SL better, and have all the answers, buy them out and run it! Better yet, go get your own VC and fire up your own game. Then you can make up all the rules you want. Maybe you could even lock up your employees 24 hours a day and hire monitors to sure they never speak about the<A title="Best game" style="COLOR: #65b45c; TEXT-DECORATION: underline" href="http://69.42.87.210/cgi-bin/ezlclk.fcgi?id=9422" target=_blank> game </A>outside your offices. They, after all, have no claim on humanity anymore because they are in the service of those who participate in your world.

Why is it you seem to only resurface on the forums only in periods of drama when you think you see a chink in LL's armor?



Wow why are you attacking me Nolan. Have I said or done anything to you? Nope.

Grasping for straws or putting two and two together. It was asked if LLPath was Pathfinder linden. Yeah I think so. I was wondering if any other lindens been yapping it up with the members of Sluniverse is all. Seems like a logical question.

As far as pathfinder goes tho I did manage to find out that one of his personal bookmarks as listed in his profile here on these forums leads to a link to the sluniverse forums. Which hunt no not at all I'm looking for the truth here.

Apparently you have not read my other humorous posts latley. I have been having a hell of a lot of fun. Well untill I read your bullshit attack.

Guess I struck a nerve, now why is that hmmm?

Cat
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Catherine Cotton
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05-18-2005 03:31
From: Willow Zander
Ok before we start making mountains outta molehills here

As a SLU member yourself, I think you should realise the answer to your own question don't you?

:rolleyes:



LOL ok then. I haven't posted to that forums in so long I forgot I was a member.
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Nolan Nash
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05-18-2005 03:35
From: Catherine Cotton
Guess I struck a nerve, now why is that hmmm?

Cat

I am used to any post other than one kissing your ass being called an attack.

You struck a nerve? You, blaze and all the others who rush in at the slightest hint of Linden blood do strike a nerve, it's not just your one post. I have no clue what point you are trying to make with reference to Robin posting over on SLU, especially when, as Willow observantly pointed out, YOU are an SLU member yourself.

What does Robin posting on SLU have to do with the Pathfinder/IRC issue, other than to instigate more conspiracy "Bullshit posts"?

P.S. A wise SLer just PMed and told me my energy would be better spent on other things. They're right. I have better things to do than battle those who like to tear down LL any chance they get.

I am through arguing with stones.
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05-18-2005 03:39
From: Willow Zander
Because really the world is square and we are all just potatoes waiting to be baked.


The sl world for sure, well mostly a filled rectangle, and will it feel comfy as I get warm and the butter melts?
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Lynn Lippmann
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05-18-2005 03:45
Panties in crack + anger = drama.

Some things need censored, like a small child who has learned his parent's first cuss word and uses it over and over.

Some people need to learn even as adults that their anger and rage against and towards others does have repercussions.

As an adult, you learn how and when to show you anger and frustration; by taking it public, you allow others to see the faults of your reasoning and beliefs. When enraged, you're enabling yourself to say things about and to others that might not necessarily be true.

As an adult, you pay those consequences.

I am not for censorship of any kind, but once it is out of control, something has to be done.

The FIC did not do this.

SLU did not do this.

The man did this all to himself. And will probably continue to do this until he learns a lesson.

But to support a person who's sole contribution to the SL forums is simply rage, anger, false accusations, etc. is simply wrong.

SL is better than that and needs to rise above it. This is not TSO, There or even WoW.

Those that still love SL will defend it to it's dying day, and take on anyone who tries to convince them otherwise.

Sorry Coco, this is not the Herald, this is not TSO; this is something far better and more than worth it to fight for in the long run. You are incorrect to say that his vile postings have a right to continue here. That is my opinion, you have clearly and publically stated yours. Flame me if you want, but no person has the right to continue and harrass others. Read the chat log, and you will see that others are clearly aware of being taunted into crossing the line. Fortunately, the line was crossed by the master himself, and he was caught red-handed. (I want to throw a line in here about Master-Baiter, but feel it would be inappropriate; but oh hell, I did anyway.)

For the record, Cat, the link to the IRC version of Second Life is simply an interface that was installed so that individuals didn't have to go through the trouble of installing and configuring an IRC client to "chat." That IRC channel is not exclusive to SL Universe, it's just a convenient way when surfing the web to stop in and visit.
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Catherine Cotton
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05-18-2005 03:46
From: Nolan Nash
I am used to any post other than one kissing your ass being called an attack.

You struck a nerve? You, blaze and all the others who rush in at the slightest hint of Linden blood do strike a nerve, it's not just your one post. I have no clue what point you are trying to make with reference to Robin posting over on SLU, especially when, as Willow observantly pointed out, YOU are an SLU member yourself.

What does Robin posting on SLU have to do with the Pathfinder/IRC issue, other than to instigate more conspiracy "Bullshit posts"?



Roflmao! Talk about grasping for straws. Nolan I already knew how you felt after reading your posts in the sluniverse forums. I find it ironic that your now attacking me when I ask a vaild question. Let me be more specific. "Has anyone from the sluniverse chatted with any other LL employees in the IRC chat associated with sluniverse? "

As far as my being a member I haven't posted to that forum since i realized how biast the members were. Tow the line or be publicaly humiliated. LIKE RIGHT NOW.

As far as my ass being kissed was that said to incite more drama? oh yes I do believe it was. The point since you have apparently completly missed it is:

"I do not think it is right for any LL employee to talk about any client; to other clients."

I'm sorry you apparently disagree with your insulting drama filled posts.

Cat
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Willow Zander
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05-18-2005 03:49
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Catherine Cotton
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05-18-2005 04:05
Johnny works for a bank.
Judy is a customer of the bank.

Johnny has a customer; mary.
Johnny tells mary "That judy is such a bitch, I would love to get rid of her"

Everyone else in the bank hears this even Judy.


Does Judy still trust the bank?
Did Johnny get fired when the bank manager learned about this?

So is Judy still a member of the bank? Or does she promply remove her money from the bank?

:D
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Willow Zander
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05-18-2005 04:08
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Kris Ritter
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05-18-2005 04:08
From: Catherine Cotton
Johnny works for a bank.
Judy is a customer of the bank.

Johnny has a customer; mary.
Johnny tells mary "That judy is such a bitch, I would love to get rid of her"

Everyone else in the bank hears this even Judy.


Does Judy still trust the bank?
Did Johnny get fired when the bank manager learned about this?

So is Judy still a member of the bank? Or does she promply remove her money from the bank?

:D
Cat


Depends if Judy is a bitch who everyone else would love to get rid of. I think in this case everyone in the bank would cheer and hold a celebratory party.
Willow Zander
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05-18-2005 04:09
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Kris Ritter
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05-18-2005 04:11
From: Willow Zander


aww, you look cute there, Wheels :D
Willow Zander
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05-18-2005 04:12
From: Kris Ritter
aww, you look cute there, Wheels :D



Its ok I got one of you too :D

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Kris Ritter
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05-18-2005 04:14
:eek:

I didnt know anyone else had a copy of that pic. pfft.

p.s. Did Judy withdraw all her money and leave the bank yet? We might have a party to organise!
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Willow Zander
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05-18-2005 04:14
From: Kris Ritter
:eek:

I didnt know anyone else had a copy of that pic. pfft.

p.s. Did Judy withdraw all her money and leave the bank yet? We might have a party to organise!



I've got the party poppers and the chicken nibbles...
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Alexa Hope
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05-18-2005 04:22
I think it was very wrong of Pathfinder to discuss a particular resident with other residents and I'm very disappointed that he did so. Totally agree with Coco, Catherine and Moopf's posts.

While you are all saying what he did or didn't do, some of the most vitriolic posts I have seen on these forums have been by some of you against Prokofy. Why don't you just not read his posts or put him on mute.

Maybe a question to the Hotline is needed, to ascertain if it is acceptable for an LL employee to do such a thing?

Alexa
Melanie Lehane
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05-18-2005 05:25
I was referred to this forum by someone in-world.
ok.. I have read pages 1-3 and the threads they pointed to plus pages 6-7 of this thread.

And, maybe I shouldn't say it, but I have known Pathfinder through his work of the past 10+ years and I can say that all of this, from my point of view, is being blown out of proportion.

Isn't it sad that just because a person steps out of the perceived role as a Linden for a few minutes to talk as a human being it becomes fodder for a whole 7 pages of back and forth turmoil. And, here I am, adding another thread. What a dummy I am!

I don't know what the committee is that everyone is talking about and I guess I will soon know. Perhaps I should have donned an alternate identity and should put on a flak jacket? But, I know the person behind the comments and can, perhaps, see them in a different way.

Maybe it isn't right to express personal opinion among others when you have the Linden hat on. But sometimes everyone does it, no matter what the field, RL or SL. So, I am sure he won't do it again... but, think about this:
Many people complain on SL that the Lindens are not reachable, that they don't listen to us, that they don't communicate with us. Maybe this is a reason why. If they have to maintain that aloofness and never become human, they can not respond with human-ness.

I rarely come to the forums. It always seems to be that so much is said in these threads when the issues are so much more simple. And, if you are really bored with someone who perpetually writes, or incited in them.. simply skip those threads... that is all it takes... the thread goes away and dies a natural death.

Yes, natural curiosity will probably draw me here to see how much trouble I am in. But, no, I won't post on the thread again.
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05-18-2005 05:42
ANYONE who thinks the KGB are doing the rounds of gaming forums to infiltrate society ISNT unbalanced?
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Catherine Cotton
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05-18-2005 06:01
I haven't seen anyone defend Prokofy. I certainly haven't. That realy wasn't the point of this thread as far as I have read or written for that matter.
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