I Saved Second Life!

I'll help ya Alexa, it sounds like my Inventory Boxes which you can get at my store THiNC, Ontario 7,77. It should help reduce some of the load in the asset server. The inventory of my boxes does not load when accessing your normal inventory, only when you rez in world to access it. So it should reduce the load on the asset server. As for the physical size of the database that can only be done by deleting.

I made a pass at throwing out my trash earlier today, even before I saw this thread. I do that now and then, and Philip's posting motivated me for another round. Good idea to get everyone jazzed about doing it though. Thanks.

However, I'd like to ask that you NOT make personalized plaques for everyone. I thought the goal was to get rid of clutter, not create more. Making builds with custom textures for each of those plaques to commemorate inventory reduction is like cutting down trees to honor forest conservation. It's a nice thought, but the irony of it is too much to bear!

Ha! Olmy, I had that same thought. I was going to limit the plaque to one prim, and one texture for everyone. Nothing too overbearing! I think giving a prim also shows that we don't have to stop using objects in SL, just be more conscious.

Ah thanks for coming to the rescue Toneless

Alexa

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Yes, Aliasi, I understood that.

He's right to say that he can't expect that -- because a lot of people will get pretty damn huffy at the thought that they have to play socialist commune all of a sudden.

Some will happy go off to pick potatoes on the subbotnik, but not everyone is like that. And the larger problem of how to grow the game remains.

My question is whether everyone putting loads of stuff in their trash and then deleting it also creates some kind of frog-in-the-snake-throat sort of situation for the servers to deal with. I imagine it doesn't, since it just means various memory blocks getting permission to free up or whatever, but I'd like to hear how that works.

I'd like to know what it would take, in terms of user compliance, to make any sizeable dent in this problem.

So if what I'm understanding of this is, since inventory is one of the main causes, since the things in our 'inventories' are technically 'our' content. Why not use our 'PCs/Macs' as offline storage and access them when needed instead of re-inventing the entire process?

Cause some of the clutter I like having!

Suggested Message Of The Day: "When was the last time you emptied your trash?"

Permissions. If it is stored on your PC, you can potentially hack the data and copy a no-copy object.

Count me in Panda, i'm willing to shed a ton

I'll commit to it lol. I've been meaning to clean the monster out for a looong time now and I've just been dreading it. I have over 20,000 items in my iventory, most of that being textures and clothing *sigh*. I also have like every object I ever got in beta lol.

Because some gifted techno super nerd will figure out a way to duplicate items or change permissions with the inventory stored on our hard drive. Encryption is never 100% unfortunately.

Hmmm.. good point, didn't think of that part.

But if you have the permission system, couldn't you apply that to offline as well?

I've got an idea! If you're sick of hitting the delete key, then drag this script into a prim and then drag all objects you want to delete onto it, it will automatically kill them. This will work for everything but scripts:

//Trash by Douglas Callahan, If there are any compile errors, let me know as I'm writing this in the forumns since I can't get it.

default
{
      state_entry()
      {
             llAllowInventoryDrop(TRUE);
       }

       changed(integer change)
       {
             if ( change & CHANGED_ALLOWED_DROP )
             {
                     integer num = llGetInventoryNumber(llGetScriptName());
                     integer a = 0;
                     while (a < num)
                     {
                            string name = llGetScriptName();
                            string tobedeleted = llGetInventoryName(INVENTORY_ALL);
                            if ( name != tobedeleted )
                            {
                                  llRemoveInventory(tobedeleted);
                            }
                            else
                            {
                                  ++i;
                             }
                      }
             }
       }
}

I know I left a semicolon out there somewhere so any scripters, feel free to correct. This can be used by many people to delete all their object together, so have a party! If you want to do it at my place, vitos pizza, all the better!

/Surreal deletes all sheep, sheep accessories, pictures of David with sheep....

I imagine it has rather more to do with it being a desirable property of systems to work as intentioned by design.



Quite a lot of users, I'd imagine. Or a few users with massive inventories. Though organizing one's inventory is a worthy goal in and of itself, much like one's home in that you never really get around to it until a need is perceived.

...unless you're naturally tidy. These people I hate and fear.

The problem you will run into now is that once you are able to store these items on your own computer.. someone will find a way to decrypt them and change permissions.

There are those out there that do this everyday with software encryption now... anything encrypted can be decrypted.

I've already commited to this in a previous thread and will do so here as well...I got about half of the crap in my inventory deleted, gah i spent about 3 hours doing it...still have the texture and picture folder left to do then i'm done <3

I commit to being a condescending asshole. Where's my plaque you worthless pissant?

Sorry, Vudu... you have a lot to live up to. There might only be room for one!

There are probably a good number of copies of free Linden made items that could easily be replaced if deleted. I wonder if it would be possible to have these items deleted automatically or with programmed assistance for those who don't trust automated deletions done by a program that is known to behave improperly from time to time?

Also would it be possible to detect instances of default prims in our inventories and have them deleted by the program?

I love the forums, so adult, so non-condescending. No wonder prokofy is the way he is, comments like that make him that way.

Personally I don't give a flying fuck about limited or unlimited inventories. I do care about logging on. And being told the log on issue is not sudden, and that the problem is all out huge inventories..well that does't cut it in the customner service department.

Frankly I would be willing to bet my inventory is much smaller than most anyone elses, and I do delete everything I don't use. But sometimes it is entirely posssilbe to comment about a problem in general. And that is asking people to delete items they have given value for without recomponse. I'm not a tekki-wikki and I donlt have terabytes of information stored in my inventory. I don't run a business that requires e-mail communication to the outside world, hell I don't even stream content onto my land. So when it comes to sacrificing inventory for the speed of the server, I have done so.

And while I am amused by your condescending attitude, I don't really see its appropriatenes for the response to my post. Its that attitude that perpetuates the FIC, the tekkiwikkiati remarks and all the name calling. You and others like you just don't see it.

In point of fact I pay LL money to get a service, and for three days I have not gotten that service. I don't care what the problem is, how it was caused or what happened, I want access. Yes I know that is not possible, despite your example, not all of us here are idiots. I am just a bit angry that Phil is saying that even the release of 1.6.5 may not solve this problem, and that realistically, there is no immediate end in sight.

Yes I am bitching, no I don't particularly give a fuck if I stepped on your toes. I might If I wasn't treated with such a condescending little outburst. I want a little more from someone I am paying a monthly fee to than "please bear with us, we may or may not beable to fix this problem soo, but in the mean time please dispose of your stuff."

See the problem is you either (1) didn't read my original post, or (2) you really don't care because you have the right to whine your brain out. There are about ten thousand other threads open right now that are encouraging that behavior. You chose the one that asked you not to. So instead of assuming (2), and giving you the benefit of the doubt (that you really just don't give a fuck about anything other than your right to entitlement), I assumed (1). By assuming (1) however, I really do feel the need to condescend to people who gloss over the FIRST post in a thread so they can quickly get to the "reply" button to get out their own personal baggage/agenda.

And about your Prok worderati thingerati...

"No wonder prokofy is the way he is, comments like that make him that way."

I can see that I made the right assumption. You do not read the forums. It is all documented in the forums for you to read at any time (who started throwing the stones).

Valid point.

Send Philip an email and say it directly to him.

Caveat emptor. You agreed to put up with this shit when you signed up for the game.
Life lesson #75: Read the EULA carefully, because private corporations can do whatever they damn well please.