Do you support a Grid-Wide Sales Tax to Fund Events?

They don't want to pay for entertainment partly because they are already paying for entertainment (by paying for the game), and mainly because people will always provide entertainment (and prizes) for free in games even if others charge, and because you can't take entertainment home and put it in your living room and be perfectly happy without another entertainment fix for the next six months.

And because entertainers can't make their real profit off popcorn and drinks.

And . . . that is because . . . this is a game.

coco

My friends and I entertain ourselves. Think about it. SL is my entertainment, I pay for it. I entertain myself. I'm not going to pay extra to entertain people unless it entertains me. I don't get why everyone should support events for a few. This is a game, not a welfare state.


I am using game since that is the term Cocoanut is using.



Also, let me explain my entertainment. Once, many weeks ago, I went to look at a new community Sim that was all gray and rather drab. There was a newbie sort of player there working on a house. I stopped spending time with my best friend in SL to help this new player. I gave this player the Linden tint for windows and took the time to explain to that player how they worked and how to install them. Remember that night Cocoanut? I spent like an hour with you at your new house. That was entertainment for me, and it didnt cost me anything and I didnt beg anyone else to pay me for it. That was entertaining for me, entertainment is different for everyone.

Hell no.

I figure LL cut event funding because people were abusing the monetary gain that LL implemented to encourage creative events by making continuous copy events (Tringo and Hottest Thong 18 times a day).

I'm not going to pay money from my pocket to fund such idiocy.

Hate to tell you this, but unless I'm interpreting the meaning of this chart wrong--um, ya we kinda have just a LITTLE nonstop inflation problem even after stopping the free L$ for events thingy:

Week starting Money Supply
10/31/2004 _($122,129,457_)
11/7/2004 _($126,542,248_)
11/14/2007 _($131,556,045_)
11/21/2004 _($136,320,903_)
11/28/2004 _($140,423,309_)
12/5/2004 _($145,708,573_)
12/12/2004 _($149,465,215_)
12/19/2004 _($153,977,123_)
12/26/2004 _($158,722,884_)
1/2/2005 _($163,549,805_)

I don't think the number of residents or anything else would factor in so if that's L$...I'm guessing we had about a 2-3% inflation rate (on weekly basis) a few months ago which was probably pretty consistent for a few months before that.

But that's off topic, sortof.

As for an event sales tax, add another "hell no".

BTW isn't the "economy" section a better place for this post?

Actually,I do belive number of residents does factor in, as they represent demand and distribution. If the total available goes up rougly proportionate to the number or residents holding money, then the money remains at about the same value. Its when there's more money with no further distribution that it loses value.

Baloney. The people we're talking about here, the ones who are attending events in hopes of making the tiny pittance handed out for SEXXXXXIEST THONG or MOST DEVLISH SEXY AV, are also getting a mere L$50 a week in their stipend. They're basic account holders. They paid ten dollars for an unlimited supply of entertainment. I think that value alone is more than enough. If folks want more, they can pay more.

I'm just going from my own defintion, but then again it depends on whether or not you are talking about inflation resulting in price increases or inflation simply because there is more money in circulation. I don't think the definition is very solid unfortunately. You're probably speaking from a price increase viewpoint, where I think you'd be correct, but I'm thinking from a "total money in circulation" viewpoint.

Oh well... it's a good topic for another thread but I don't want to start a hijack.

That reminds me, Enabran, in some other thread, people were saying that Slingo, Bingo, et. al were primarily for basic members. So I said I'd do a survey. I did one such survey, at one Bingo game. Out of 15 people there, I was the only basic member, or at least, the only person who would admit to it. It's probably safe to conclude that most people at that Bingo event were premium members.

Eboni, yes I do remember! How could I forget? Thank you very much for all your help and kindness! I have even made two sleep pillows (complete with script! well, they came in the freebie sleep pillow I used) to go on the futon so my house now sleeps 4, or 8 if you figure in how big my bed is, lol!

And yes, that was fun, and I, too, have oodles of fun with my friends, and exploring around, and all that. But that isn't enough. People need organized fun (not the least reason for which is the fact that if they are new, they need to MEET new friends somewhere to hang around with, and organized events are terrific for that, especially if you are a bit shy).

As for the inflation thing, I think that can be accounted for by (a) the growth of new players and (b) the constant infusion, each week, of more money to all players in the form of stipends and bonuses. I imagine the curve was even more steep when they gave stipends for events.

coco

I voted ABSOLUTELY NOT.

The suggestion is preposterous. Eboni said it better than I can.

Freya's Primtionary at 2pm every day is a beacon of light in the events list. Its terrific fun and most if not all of those attending put money in the pot. I don't see her asking for a tax on creators.

Alexa

Well obviously what happened is that the poll was GOING to say that an overwhelming number of people supported a tax, but those Ficcyfaccytakkiwhakkis loggin in all their alts and skewed the results....AGAIN.

If this poll doesn't swing back in the next 24 hours to show we want this tax - that will only prove it was tampered with...

The event funding by LL led to numerous "sexxay AV contest" ; probably because it was so easy. Why build an genuinely entertaining and interesting event when you can just pay people to attend and get your check from LL in exchange for a small report?

What other people are suggesting, sponsorship by individuals or business at least will lead to quality events, as I suppose they won"t offer much for a nth "sexy in black" pseudo-event.

I will fight anyone who tries to tax me to pay for any events. However Issarik's suggestion above interests me quite a bit. If someone comes to me and says "You sell some stuff, right. Well I have an idea. Sponsor this intriguing new event..." I might have some time for that. In exchange for something like putting a few of my products on the fringe of the event I might give some funds...

ARGH! ABSOLUTELY NOT! Create an event worth paying for, I'll see you there. Like... everyone who shows up pays L$100 to play trivia. 20 people show up. The host keeps L$500. L$1500 in prizes, 30 questions, L$50 each. ITS EASY TO DO!

Also, there's still dwellnor/trafficvs for clubs. That's a freebie hand out that isn't really necessary.

Can anyone explain to me why WELFARE should exist in a world where the citizens don't need (a) food (b) bathrooms or (c) shelter... and where the same citizens have an unlimited supply of cloth, wood, stone, etc, to build anything they could possibly need?!

Regards,

-Flip

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Tax sales to subsidize events? No freakin' way. Not in a million years. Charge people to go to events if you want but leave the rest of us out of it. I don't see why I should give anyone a single Linden-cent of my revenues just because they put some crummy event into the calendar.

It doesn't take a genious to see that this idea was soundly defeated in the forum polls. And by a WIDE margin - at post time the count is 136 No, 6 Yes, 1 undecided.

I wasn't really sure what the outcome was going to be, but utilitarian economics aside, it doesn't look like this idea will become a reality anytime soon.

I just voted No also - add one more.

It appears this issue is officially Dead.