Everyone please sign this petition

You agreed to pay for the island.. you purchased the island, if you buy a house and not pay the bill, they dont put a wooden fence around it and wait for you to return, THEY RESELL IT!

no they dont but for the period of time that you are gone the mortagage company in most cases will freeze the loan and you dont pay.

really with no penalty or anything? I would love to buy a house I dont have to pay for... please tell me where.

no penalty, they just freeze it and you resume payment when you return. Not every company offers this for people deploying but some do. Same with car note etc. But thats where integrity comes in.. if someone is going to be living in the house or driving the car and you freeze the payment.. thats just plain shitty and taking advantage of the system.

no Billy they freeze the assets not the payment... they give you an EXTENSION to your loan, so those months that you do not pay are added on to the end of your contract... so if you had 11 payments left on your car and you were gone for 3 months you will come back to 14 payments left.... but the money is still owed...So do you want to pay LL the money when you get back instead?

How many times have you been deployed or have had to use this service? Thank you.

What does "ME" deploying have to do with anything? You can't argue my point, can you? No... you can't... Thank you! I have been an accountant for the past 7 years... I am not totally clueless about this type of stuff.

You being an accountant brings no validity to the point at all.. think about it.. is a mechanic trained to work on every type of machine? does a lawyer practice every kind of law? No. your point is useless and for the birds. Research and educate yourself.

Billy,

If the Lindens already told you NO, they are not going to change their minds no matter if we all agree with you. The best thing for you to do is to try to sell before you leave. I know that is not something you want to do but it seems to be your only solution given your time limit.

I personally don't see what the problem would be with granting your request, but then again maybe there it isn't as simple for them to do as we think. We will never know really. I wish you the best of luck.

Huggerz,
MJ

Thanks MJ! Yea i agree.. but its kinda rough, i mean i could get a call right now =( thats whats so shitty and i know im going to have to take a big hit on my stuff.. and i really wanna keep my main grid sim =\ but i guess i gotta do what i gotta do! I hope LL takes this in consideration for others though. some people have to be in world constantly to make money and being away for months at a time causes out of pocket expenses which of course everyone trys to avoid.. but i guess you gotta take the bad with the worst.

LOL it has everything to do with this situation Billy, not only do I understand why LL will not do it, but I also understand and know what happens when people get deployed or for some reason or another can't pay thier bills... It's called working in Accounts Receivables/payables and payroll for many years.

I was under the impression this was a private island... hmm seems all the people that agreed with you thought it was too =/

Its not real estate, its computer data. The Lindens can back his data up and hold it for him and lease the server to anybody that needs it. The Lindens just need to decide if they’re going to be a jerks about this. This is something that shouldn’t require debate, the Lindens should have took care of this for him already. That's how they develop customer loyalty. I feel every member of the US military deserves anything we can do to make his or her deployment less stressful. If it wasn’t for people like Billy there would be a draft and I guarantee a draft would make everybodys life more stressful.

You worked at Accounts Receivable for many years, great job. I see you put all that experience to work busting Billy's balls.

Did you also volunteer at the city pound gassing puppies on your days off?

damit read! it is about a private island! i was saying i dont want to sell my maingrid sim =\

Gotta love when an alt comes to the rescue... pfft!

Bah... If Flavian is an alt he's an awfully active one checking out his profile. Besides, he hangs around Chaos a fair amount and seems like a good guy, although one with strong opinions.

Back to the main point of the topic, I think it would rock if the Lindens would offer any private sim owner the option of paying a fee for an archived backup set to a date of your choice. What a great way to preserve a build you are tired of, but that you put a lot of work into and might want to revisit...Kris's Heaven & Hell for example.

I'd pay a fee to have Chaos burned to a disk and stuck in a file every couple of months.

First off, I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one in SL. That being said, it seems to me that the Servicemember's Civil Relief Act (SCRA) might be applicable in this regard.

Servicemember's Civil Relief Act, Simplified

SCRA in Detail

Specifically, this act (formerly known as the Soldier's and Sailor's Civil Relief Act, updated by President Bush in 2003) protects servicemen and women from undue hardship with regard to contracts, taxes and civil proceedings while they are deployed on active duty. While it might be a bit of a stretch, the contract between Billy and LL could be construed to fall under the provisions of the SCRA.

Billy, consult your local JAG officer and see if you are afforded relief under the SCRA.

Disclaimer: This post is not to be considered legal advice. Void where prohibited by law. Your mileage may vary. Batteries not included. Objects in the rear view mirror may appear closer than they are. Wash in cold water only.

Dakota, please do not post things like this sensual casanova has been a accountant for many years and knows the ins and outs of this stuff so please dont make her look stupid

/sarcasm off


Thanks dakota =) im glad you took the time to research this matter, but i am still trying to make people understand its not only abou tme but everyone that has to go away for extended periods of time. I do think i have significant ground to stand on legally because of issues i have ran into before but im trying to avoid such things =) Thanks again dakota your a blessing hun!

Where is the financial hardship? Billy doesn't own the server, he is paying a monthly fee to have his sim maintained. That fee is standard, whether no one ever uses it or whether 50 people are inhabiting the sim nonstop every day. He doesn't have to keep paying the fee at all - no hardhship - , at which point LL will simply stop delivering the service.

I would recommend that he not do this, though, because he would be out the $980 setup fee that he paid. Make no mistake, LL doesn't owe him that money, it was paid as a setup fee for the sim, and the sim was indeed set-up. However, since LL does allow estate owners to transfer to new landlords, he would best serve himself by attempting to sell it for whatever he can get for it. Since there is a $100US transfer fee, the highest he can reasonably ask for his sim is $880US. Any more than that, and a new owner can simply get a made-to-order sim.

Good luck trying to convince a JAG officer that it is a financial hardship to have virtual property maintained in your absence. You'd have a hard enough time doing this if you were profiting from it, as a business. Since The World is as-yet uninhabited, it's basically currently a $200 per month entertainment expense.


Billy, it would be nice if LL offered sim backups for a fee, but currently they don't/can't. You're not owed anything beyond what is in the service contract that you signed. You volunteered to be deployed, and there are some sacrifices that this will entail. This is one of those sacrifices, and I'd guess that if your life is going to be on the line, this is one of the least of those sacrifices. You have the opportunity to recoup, in $US, some of the money that you laid out for the server setup. I suggest you take it.

If you're in the military, I'm sure you're familiar with the phrase "Suck it up, and drive on." It's what soldiers do.

Oh Poor Billy, if this were applicable in this particular scenario you would have what you wanted and not be whining about it here on the forums...

No its called i dont like to bring legalitys in the matter and i like to give the offender a chance to do whats right.

lmfao

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Clearly not a american.