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Dianne Mechanique
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09-18-2005 10:29
From: Cory Edo
You forgot the Off Topic Tangent Flamewar!
Funny also because MusicTeacher is 100% wrong on the topic he/she tried to drive the thread into. Hilarious :)

Enbran is right, this is such a good (or at least typical) SL thread.
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Cory Edo
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09-18-2005 10:37
For Jeska, this thread is going to be like waking up late on Sunday morning and noticing your dog shit in the living room - and then tried to bury it under the throw rug.
Ardith Mifflin
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09-18-2005 10:44
From: Memory Harker
No, please.

Please don't be harshing on the Naruto. :(

I implore you, with intensity almost equal to that with which I despise bigotry.

You *know* Naruto and Sakura and Sasuke would take turns kicking *edited* ass.


I apologize. We should be uniting under the banner of Naruto! Let Naruto divide us not!
Dianne Mechanique
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09-18-2005 10:47
From: Ol Fitzcarraldo
I will be as soon as my 7 day trial period ends. and yes, I do have a premium account.
This statement kind of plays into a suspicion I have had for a long time about W-Hat.

Always it seems that some idiot pulls some offensive attack, and it turns out that "they are *not* in W-Hat." In fact W-Hat always comes on these threads and says so.

It seems to me that this is part of the W-Hat initiation.

Do a stunt like this and you will be considered for membership? It looks like this is what this racist guy is saying here quite explicitly. I wonder if the two goons who came after me who "weren't members of W-Hat" are now actually members?

I bet they are.
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Dianne Mechanique
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09-18-2005 10:49
From: Cory Edo
For Jeska, this thread is going to be like waking up late on Sunday morning and noticing your dog shit in the living room - and then tried to bury it under the throw rug.
hahah!

That is why my doggie sleeps in the kitchen. (more washable) :)
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Enabran Templar
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09-18-2005 10:57
From: Cory Edo
For Jeska, this thread is going to be like waking up late on Sunday morning and noticing your dog shit in the living room - and then tried to bury it under the throw rug.


OMFG I laughed so hard. So... perfectly... executed. Bravo.

From: Dianne Mechanique
I don't know about the other posters on this thread, but my "avatar under 18" alarm is ringing on every post *you* are making. I dont think you are mature enough to even understand why folks might get upset about this.


Yikes, your thing was going off too? I had to bury it in my filing cabinet, it kept bleeping every time I loaded this thread. :eek:
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Dianne Mechanique
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09-18-2005 11:01
From: pandastrong Fairplay
I am a content Jew. Especially after a nice piece of tofu and a Kool 100. :D
Well if we are fighting bigotry and stereotyping here, isnt it kind of counterproductive to label ourselves in that way as a "jew" or a "black" or whatever? I mean we all generalise, but to the degree we use labels like that about ourselves or anyone else, we are just furthering the whole thing aren't we?

Why cant you just be "content?" :)

(I'm just asking cause you refer to yourself that way quite a bit)
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Cory Edo
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09-18-2005 11:03
From: Dianne Mechanique
Well if we are fighting bigotry and stereotyping here, isnt it kind of counterproductive to label ourselves in that way as a "jew" or a "black" or whatever? I mean we all generalise, but to the degree we use labels like that about ourselves or anyone else, we are just furthering the whole thing aren't we?

Why cant you just be "content?" :)

(I'm just asking cause you refer to yourself that way quite a bit)



Its how he picks up the chicks.





What?!?! I got a thing for Jon Stewart. Sue me.
Jonquille Noir
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09-18-2005 11:03
I say let them post as many racist pictures as they can possibly post. It serves two purposes.

1. They will eventually get themselves banned, thereby making SL that much better for the rest of us.

2. It makes those who may be borderline racists recoil back in horror for fear of being associated with that kind of childishness and ignorance. (Much like when members of KKK speak publically, and people who may have agreed with them on a point or two will rethink their views and wonder, "Do I look that much like a booger-eating-moron when I make racist comments too?" )

Vocal racists are their own worst PR, and probably do more to hurt their 'cause' than any other group possibly could.
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09-18-2005 11:24
From: Ol Fitzcarraldo
I thought it was obvious that was sarcasm... the i swear its true should have given it away


you know, i can see using racist themes in an art piece or educational piece that is teaching lessons about human ignorance and the evils of bigotry [Edit: and even then, needs to be used very carefully] ... and I try to give people the benefit of the doubt and assume ignorance before judging them an actively racist prick (ignorance not being an excuse, but is a little less violently offensive because that is someone that can be educated into realizing what is not appropriate or civilized). Of course, my giving people the benefit of the doubt is why katykiwi got furious at me in the thread she decided to bring up again... and I can see both her perspective as well as my own... we both agree on the fundamentals that racism is bad.

BUT in this case, your sarcasm was not obvious, and your avatar appears NOT to be a protest of racism but a glorification of it.
Hikaru Yamamoto
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09-18-2005 11:24
From: Euterpe Roo
Pointing out the picture is important because, if anything is going to change, we need to have these discussions.



It will NEVER change :) People will make these jokes no matter what. But to reduce problems they cause they have to be ignored. By pointing it out you are giving them exactly what they want. attention.
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Kendra Bancroft
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09-18-2005 11:26
From: katykiwi Moonflower
Ask Nolan he tossed the phrase around. As a Jew I was highly offended and I wondered why Panda didnt comment about that remark when it was made. Guess thats what "friendship" tolerates.



Can't speak for anyone else, but as a jew -- I not only "tolerated" Nolan's observation but understood it all to well.

If you, as a jew, do not realize that Nolan was addressing Prok's use of "Content fascist" and "FIC" as being abit too close to Mein Kampf for comfort, then perhaps you need to get aquainted with your own people's history.

Nolan,

This "content jew" applauds you.
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09-18-2005 11:35
I just wanted to be in this thread so I could tell my grandchildren
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Sam Portocarrero
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09-18-2005 11:38
I think this is the longest thread on record not to be locked by the lindens in a single weekend. (I can bet you money it will be locked/deleted by Monday noon.)

- Sam
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Lo Jacobs
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09-18-2005 11:42
From: Toast Bard
I just wanted to be in this thread so I could tell my grandchildren


Me too. Hi, everyone!
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Willow Caldera
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09-18-2005 12:03
Guys, just wanted to say I feel for Roberta here - I had no idea of why it was offensive either so I kept reading to find out, because that way one knows for future reference. Had she not asked I would still be in the dark, and so I think would be the majority of the Europeans on the forums.

Not understanding is not the same thing as not caring - do you know every single cultural reference from every country in the world?

So now we do know and we can add it to the list of Unacceptable Things. Personally I think well done Roberta for asking to be enlightened - I'm glad someone did or I'd be none the wiser.
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Cory Edo
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09-18-2005 12:12
From: Willow Caldera
Guys, just wanted to say I feel for Roberta here - I had no idea of why it was offensive either so I kept reading to find out, because that way one knows for future reference. Had she not asked I would still be in the dark, and so I think would be the majority of the Europeans on the forums.

Not understanding is not the same thing as not caring - do you know every single cultural reference from every country in the world?

So now we do know and we can add it to the list of Unacceptable Things. Personally I think well done Roberta for asking to be enlightened - I'm glad someone did or I'd be none the wiser.




UK peeps can check out Spike Lee's Bamboozled for a crash course in America's racist iconography.
Willow Caldera
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09-18-2005 12:18
Thanks Cory :)

See? A little more knowledge spread, a little more wisdom on an important subject sent out across the oceans.

So while this thread might have spiralled down....somewhat.....there's at least one good thing came of it :)
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09-18-2005 12:22
From: Kujila Maltz
WOW.

I haven't laughed at a SecondLife screenshot since the offensive 9/11 screenshot I saw.

This is a work of art, really =P

People need to get their panties out of a knot and lighten up.

I am really effing tired of people who blame there own ugly on other peoples lacking a sense of humor or having thin skin. Bullshit.
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09-18-2005 13:14
From: Kendra Bancroft
Can't speak for anyone else, but as a jew -- I not only "tolerated" Nolan's observation but understood it all to well.

If you, as a jew, do not realize that Nolan was addressing Prok's use of "Content fascist" and "FIC" as being abit too close to Mein Kampf for comfort, then perhaps you need to get aquainted with your own people's history.

Nolan,

This "content jew" applauds you.


Yes, Katy. You can look to Kendra's post for why I did not take offense. Nolan's remark not only was 100% against racism, but it also made me question whether or not he was Spike Lee's alt. ;)
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09-18-2005 13:38
what is the deeper lesson of this thread?

save drama for sundays. :)
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Ol Fitzcarraldo
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09-18-2005 13:39
From: Dianne Mechanique
This statement kind of plays into a suspicion I have had for a long time about W-Hat.

Always it seems that some idiot pulls some offensive attack, and it turns out that "they are *not* in W-Hat." In fact W-Hat always comes on these threads and says so.

It seems to me that this is part of the W-Hat initiation.

Do a stunt like this and you will be considered for membership? It looks like this is what this racist guy is saying here quite explicitly. I wonder if the two goons who came after me who "weren't members of W-Hat" are now actually members?

I bet they are.



damn you got us!
katykiwi Moonflower
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09-18-2005 13:51
From: pandastrong Fairplay
Yes, Katy. You can look to Kendra's post for why I did not take offense. Nolan's remark not only was 100% against racism, but it also made me question whether or not he was Spike Lee's alt. ;)
Well after he spun it Panda. Also, the watermelon/chicken guy stated his avie was a statement 100% against racism, but that excuse isnt good enough unless its from a friend? Double meet Standard.

Come on we both know how that comment felt.
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09-18-2005 13:55
From: Kendra Bancroft
Can't speak for anyone else, but as a jew -- I not only "tolerated" Nolan's observation but understood it all to well.

If you, as a jew, do not realize that Nolan was addressing Prok's use of "Content fascist" and "FIC" as being abit too close to Mein Kampf for comfort, then perhaps you need to get aquainted with your own people's history.

Nolan,

This "content jew" applauds you.
Oh you own it too? Everyone owns the standard for sensitivity for "you people."

Kendra have some integrity and acknowledge that the explanation followed after the question was raised. If you, as a Jew, saw the phrase "content Jew" used in a post without explanation and were not mench enough to qiestion it then I would wonder about your belief and knowledge of the history of "your people." His explanation came after, be honest about it.

And a shandeh un a charpeh...shame on you, and Panda, if you saw it used, WITHOUT EXPLANATION OR CONTEXT, and didnt question it. I was not the only one who questioned it. Yes, a shandeh un a charpeh.
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09-18-2005 14:02
From: katykiwi Moonflower
Well after he spun it Panda. Also, the watermelon/chicken guy stated his avie was a statement 100% against racism, but that excuse isnt good enough unless its from a friend? Double meet Standard.

Come on we both know how that comment felt.


Sorry Katy, I would hope that you know me well enough to know that I am not an apologist.

It is about context. Nolan's context was a direct rebuttal against the concept of "FIC" garbage, putting in in context with endless Nazi connotations put forward by the inventor of the FIC term itself. He flipped the orignal retarded analogy around to debunk it.

"Come on we both know how that comment felt."

That I can understand. At first I was a little taken back before I looked at the context. The term "content jew" had a way of jumping out of the page before I actually read the rest of the words on that page.
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