Anti united states and pro terrorism.

Really? Cos I saw the 2nd plane slam into the towers with my own eyes from the streets of NYC, I lost three friends, and my poor little parrot "Bappie" died from the toxic air unleashed in the aftermath. My reaction to the flags was immediately one of horror that this tragedy was being co-opted as some sort of nationalistic rah rah fest march towards fascism.

Wow, this thread even comes with un-helpful pictures! It's like Jon Stewart's America - The Book....only without all that pesky humor.

The thing that divides satire from simple mean-spiritedness is satire tries to make a point about the world in general. Mean-spiritedness is nastines for its own sake...although sometimes satirists can get so wrapped up in their cause that they forget to be funny and thought-provoking.

In the case of the build that this post waaaaaaaay back when was actually discussing, I can see that there are several points and things to consider about 9/11 that can be taken away from it; first and foremost the trivialization and devaluing that has been done by American society with this tragedy.

Remember the artwork "Piss Christ"? To some, it was a profound statement of the state of religion. To others, it was a crucifix soaking in a jar of urine. But, regardless, there are two fundamental rights we have in America. We have the right to state our opinions. And we have the right to say "I disagree with your opinion". We have the right to build a Tower Crash statue in SL....and we also have a right to say, "Geez...that's twisted".

It's the respecting of other people's rights that we seem to have so many problems with.

Gee, I hope everyone who's offended by someone making light of a tragedy like 9/11 has never, ever giggled at say, a Darwin Award, or something like that. Tha'd be hypocrisy, after all.

Do you also hate Jews for Jesus?

::blink:: I'm sorry. It was meant in support of people not the country. perhaps there's a better symbol if you have a suggestion. and yes, I know it's a weak gesture. but there's not much else I can do. As for facism, supporting ones country is not automatically facist. I don't like Bush, but the president is not the country. I'm of the live and let live and view the law as guidelines rather than actual unbendable rules. I form my own opinions and have my own intentions.

Possibly I'm old fashioned for thinking nationally rather than globally. But we do have a unique national history, which is of course part of global history. Not exactly a pretty one but I think the people of the country are generally making progress. Even entire populations make mistakes. I'm still holding to the belief that the majority can learn from them.

For you it was an extremely personal attack. For me it was just an attack on my culture and and a part of my identity. And ya, I'm pissed off that it made such a good excuse to go stomping around in the middle east and looking after oil concerns. I didn't loose anyone to the towers, and only one person I know's been injured when the army sent him over. but all of them have had their lives changed and interupted.

Kendra:

You must be confused.. The only fascist I see are liberals. Don't forget your roots Kendra.

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ouch, alby that sorta puts you on my side, but I'm not sure I like that fact. She lost three people and a pet, she has a right to be pissed even if you don't agree with who she's pissed at. getting pissed doesn't make her a liberal. Anyway, shouting liberal at her sorta supports her facist case .

Oh come on Alby, this gimmick is getting old. Find some new material. This was supposed to be Yet Another Rage Against W-Hat thread and you've turned it into some kind of bizzare Ann Coulter love fest.

No. I just call them Christians.

I'm not a liberal, dear. I'm a socialist. By definition I am as far from being a fascist as you get.

and I apologize for my outburst. I know your heart is in the right place

Achtung!

Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei

(NA)tionalso(ZI)alist

National Socialist German Workers Party = Nazi Party

The picture represents the port on the Pakistan coast. The depository of the oil. I am glad that you have a map though. BTW, you can google for more detailed info on the pipeline.

Wonder why Pakistan is our ally? We sure are lucky to have them helping us out with all this terrorist stuff.

Anyway, I am so glad that we got a leader in Afghanistan who had full authority to approve such a plan so early in his term.

I just like to focus on the bright side of things. Sure thousands of people died on and after September 11, but look at the beauty that came of that. I prefer to focus on the good. The towers fell but the pipelines rose!

God Bless America, damnit.

Please at least try to not be ignorant.

The Nazi party was certainly not a real socialist party.
In true "double-speak" fashion --Nazism --also called Hitlerism was a particularly toxic brand of anti-socialist fascism. Do some reading.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi

"Nazi leaders made statements describing their views as socialist, while at the same time opposing the idea of class conflict espoused by the Social Democrats (SPD) and Communists (KPD). Established socialist movements did not view the Nazis as socialists and argued that the Nazis were thinly disguised reactionaries. Historians such as Ian Kershaw also note the links between the Nazis and the German political and economic establishment and the significance of the Night of the Long Knives in which Hitler purged what were at the time seen as "leftist" elements in the Nazi Party and how this was done at the urging of the military and conservatives."

Crom, you'd better be careful. Keep saying things like this, and I'll end up liking you.

They died for an unjust war. They died for Bush's war. Sorry. You're wrong.

ROFL!

Looks like he just took a serious hit from that smokin double barrel bong in the background too!

Siggy.

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Im not going to even reply to this. I am Billys friend, and I know he can be eccentric, but he has a good heart. As a fellow servicemember, I dont even know how to feel after speaking to these individuals. I dont feel offended, just sad. I am staring at this screen, and I just feel like shit. I'll be going "over there" in a few weeks, and I regret to say, I dont even know why anymore. Am I running the possibility of orphaning my son for these guys??? I look at my son, and smile, then look at this build and wonder, is it worth it??? Oh well, Im going to bed, I dont know how to feel.

I'm sorry, but that is pathetic.

If people exercising their freedom makes you sick, then no; you're definitely fighting for the wrong side.

When you give people freedom, you cannot dictate what they can and cannot do with their freedom or else it isn't perfect freedom at all.

You must live with your freedom and let others live with theirs.

I suppose your idols are Stalin and Castro? In case you forgot, Russia was once called Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Nothing beats killing millions of Russians who disagree with you.

If your ideals are so great Kendra, then why are the countries who do and did exist have such a problem with keeping their citizens locked inside their borders to prevent escape? don't take my word for it, but I don't get that warm and fuzzy feeling that socialism is the ideal way of living.

Funny how Russia tried to be Socialist and are now turning into Capitalist.. LOL

Nahhhh. I leave the idol worshipping to folks who don't think for themselves.

"What the hell is this, Russia?" - Larry the Cable Guy

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