Outrageously Offended

Yes..you have to get consent...from Linden Labs.

I'm curious. To the people whose avs were featured in the exhibit without their permission, or to others who remain offended by this whole mess:

Now that it has been made perfectly clear that there not everyone in SL adheres to moderately considerate standards, and that there are people out there viewing and photographing upskirt shots whenever they are able; will you at all alter your own behavior or dress code?

If yes, how will you change?

If no, will you continue to be offended if upskirt photos of your av pop up in the future?

You are correct, nolan, and certainly Taco will reap some unenjoyable rewards from his actions. Should he be banned or officially disciplined by LL for this though?

Uh oh..another Topic.."Should we have a Dress Code?" LOL! No im not gonna do it!

missing the point...
"those people" don't know.
and it's not the "art" that bothers us, its that people don't know.
I love how others try to make it an issue of "you prude, us normal" when its just about privacy and consent

by my logic.. i did leave open the possibilty that it belongs to LL and is a license agreement. but like stuff on tv, just because cnn transmits an image of the whitehouse, the president doesn't own the image.

LL maintains that the information we create is owned by us. similarly, the av information is user - ie. slider settings, textures assigned, attachments assigned. but you don't on the image it produces on my screen. how can you hope to?



i think that was established a long time ago and taco stated that he was within his rights to disregard the wishes of others (with the implicit consequence of being disliked and perhaps ostracized by a contingent of fellow players).

No. I think most of the folks on this side of the fence simply wanted some of them taken down if so expressed.

/me points at Maeve...

She asked first! =^.^=


Seriously tho' - Jennyfur, I'm glad you're happy with how you've been treated by Taco. Not everybody is, so I hope you understand that other people might have different reactions and different expectations of privacy and personal space.

For the record. If Taco has me in his gallery, I'm not only going to feel violated and embarrassed, but I will report him for abuse.

If Taco had taken a picture up my skirt and then showed me and asked me if he could keep it or publish it, I would've felt like my privacy had been violated, told him, "No! Get away from me you creep!" and rated him negatively.

If Taco had asked me *before* he took any pictures, I would have felt embarrassed, slightly flattered, a little weirded out and said "No sorry," thought to myself "well there's another polite pervert in SL ^_^;; " and not really thought about it again.

If a close friend, somebody I had felt safe with and I trusted, had asked me to pose for photoshoot of kinky upskirt photos for public display. I would have felt flattered, a little embarrassed and before this maybe I would have done it, maybe not.

If my partner asks me... (*^^*)

No, I shouldnt have to alter myself to account for pigs
I do where undergarments when i wear a dress, which taco has put in his gallery as well, but how dare you presume people should change themselves, their clothing, their behavior because some creep might exploit it?

One choosing to dress provocative does not give you rights to exploit them.

I wonder how many people who have complained about this have taken the time to go an triple neg rate this fellow.

My statement was not intended for Taco directly. I was more or less stating that it's one thing to disagree with someone about their views with respect to the VR/RL issue, however, it should not be done in a sanctimonious manner as some posters did above (not you). One camp is insistent they (RL entity) are not their avatars, the other is equally insistent that they are. The rules then need to be formed by examination of where the two camps converge, (respect and compromise) not dictated by those who look upon the other camp with disdain and a feeling of superiority, due to the nature of their choice as to how they view online interaction with other human beings.

I was wondering when I signed on today how long it was going to take for someone to present the *will you start dressing differently now* point.

I totally understand the whole concept of things here and totally disagree with the perverted peep shots. But hey, got a question for ya,

If someone can take pictures up your skirt, would that not mean that anybody at anytime could just look up your skirt? Not perverted, let me stop lying, MUHUHAHAHA, but unintentionally I look up skirts, down blouses, and oogle platinum peni constantly just looking close at peoples details and fantastic texture work.

You must respect others privacy but my thing is here
1) everyone can peek if they want to wether you approve or not,
2) besides some sick game you'd rather not be involved in what is the RL problem, your spouse gonna get pics in the mail, your boss maybe?

If you ain't never seen no punnany, this dont' really seem the way at gaining experience (considering most peeps privates ain't even textured.)

This goes to common deacency and respect. For those who have been violated, don't play into it by making a fuss, this is what this person wants, more attention, and maybe they just ain't gettin none so this is thier next best thing, with a couple Barbies and Cabbage Patch in disarray at home, sad ain't it.

Not knockin anyone, do as you all please, just respect each other a little, and if dissed, ignore em, you know what they want, 'Look at me, please, please, Hey! Yo, look at meeeeeeeeeee!"

Hope everyone finds resolution, play nice kids, DAMMIT!!!

I don't think the burden should be on people to have to alter their habits because low standards of behavior are found acceptable by some. I feel that people should be treated with respect and erring towards high standards of behavior until I get to know them and know what they're comfortable with. If someone asked to take upskirt shots of my female av I wouldn't care. I'd find it rather amusing. In RL I can be as voyeuristic as anyone else. A little lacy bit of slip under a skirt hem can make my entire day. But I do not, under any circumstances, feel some entitlement to see it. In SL I do not, in any way, feel that being in a virtual world entitles me to treat other people's avatars with any less respect than I would treat them in person... no more than I'd feel that talking on the phone carried a lower standard of behavior than talking in person. I don't verbally assualt people on the phone just because I can and because the other person is being represented by sound waves from a paper cone instead of directly from their vocal chords.

I suspect someone who can only develop an emotional relationship with another person by physical presence alone has emotional problems all of their own. I think the rest of us should feel sorry for you

Well put as always.

Isn't chip the bomb-diggity!

Chip is a hottie boom bottie. That's what *I'M* talkin bout girlfriend...uh HUH....

-aimee

Yeah man, Chip's the hot doggity, fashizzle snizzle, budunkadunk monkey fu....uh... er..

Uh, er... he's aight.

Chip rocks, and he knows it!!!!

Rock on brother, rock, rock on!!!

Are you then saying that quadriplegics cannot know that emotional connection? I dont agree. There are many ways to love, not just your flavor.

If anyone needs me I'll be hiding under my bed (you should all have your checks by Tuesday)

No sides here



Now I'm assuming that because one is quadriplegic that does not mean that thier sense of touch doesn't work?
Yes i belive there is definative knowledge that human beings to benifit from emotional bonds that include touching, primates don't groom each other just because they're neat freaks. Ragardless of physical or in some parts mental differences we all need to be held and touched and nutured to grow into the social beings we are, no?

Not diggin, just $2L

To Chip and Mistress,

I'm not presuming that anyone should alter their behavior or dress one whit. I'm just asking if anyone is planning to, now that the bar for "lowest common denominator" has just been lowered, and that people, being what they are, will likely pull stunts like this in the future.

I also don't think of myself as normal, versus the offended in this thread as prudish. I admit that I find it silly to be offended by these pics, but don't hold anyone in here in lower esteem because they disagree with me.

Sorry Unhygienix. I should have been more clear in my post. I knew you were asking a devil's advocate question and didn't mean to imply any presumption of how you feel about it personally. It was a good question