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Vares Solvang
It's all Relative
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08-21-2006 15:01
Don't anyone shout "Godwin" either, cause he's right!
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Tiger Zobel
hoarder
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08-21-2006 15:30
Don't anyone shout "Godwin" either, cause he's right! I shout Godwin due to it being wrong... If you read what was said, you'd have noticed that it was a rant against those who try to enforce their opinions. Hence it being rather opposite to Hitler. I also shout Poisoning the Well and Ad Hominem... for the attempt to attack and destroy someone's character rather than their argument. |
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Billybob Goodliffe
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08-21-2006 15:36
I shout Godwin due to it being wrong... If you read what was said, you'd have noticed that it was a rant against those who try to enforce their opinions. Hence it being rather opposite to Hitler. I also shout Poisoning the Well and Ad Hominem... for the attempt to attack and destroy someone's character rather than their argument. and removing people's opinions is just as bad. Hitler tried to remove the opinions of millions, almost succeeding at it. You mention enforcing opinions is wrong? You do realize that laws are nothing more than majority opinions right? think about that for a few minutes now that being said I shout it right back at you, even louder  _____________________
If life gives you lemons, you should make lemonade and try and find someone who's life has given them vodka and have a party!
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Reitsuki Kojima
Witchhunter
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08-21-2006 15:38
I shout Godwin due to it being wrong... If you read what was said, you'd have noticed that it was a rant against those who try to enforce their opinions. Hence it being rather opposite to All the while proposing to enforce far more personal opinions to prevent other people from even HAVING other opinions. So, no, it's not wrong. _____________________
I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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Arsenic Soyinka
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Join date: 1 Dec 2005
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08-21-2006 16:08
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obviously Reitsuki, you miss the point ... and by putting words in my mouth, mis-quoting me and by mis-representing and twisting my words and my meanings you have also violated any and all intellectual standards of discussion and debate ... thats not very nice of you nevertheless ... its not about (my) supporting a system of absolute thought control. it is society and the people who should be more active than their government and their religion, or their government run by religious doctrine ... who by their nature are not virtuous otherwise the arbitrary actions taken by the "ruling system of absolute thought control" can and will do anything they wish, which could be harmful to its apathetic, misled and brainwashed society. Get it? *´¨`·.¸¸.*Arsenic . |
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Billybob Goodliffe
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08-21-2006 16:12
. obviously Reitsuki, you miss the point ... and by putting words in my mouth, mis-quoting me and by mis-representing and twisting my words and my meanings you have also violated any and all intellectual standards of discussion and debate ... thats not very nice of you nevertheless ... its not about it is society and the people who should be more active than their government and their religion, or their government run by religious doctrine ... who by their nature are not virtuous otherwise the arbitrary actions taken by the "ruling system of absolute thought control" can and will do anything they wish, which could be harmful to its apathetic, misled and brainwashed society. Get it? *´¨`·.¸¸.*Arsenic . hmm anarchist? or full of it? or both? _____________________
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Reitsuki Kojima
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Join date: 27 Jan 2004
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08-21-2006 16:13
. obviously Reitsuki, you miss the point ... and by putting words in my mouth, mis-quoting me and by mis-representing and twisting my words and my meanings you have also violated any and all intellectual standards of discussion and debate ... thats not very nice of you nevertheless ... its not about it is society and the people who should be more active than their government and their religion, or their government run by religious doctrine ... who by their nature are not virtuous otherwise the arbitrary actions taken by the "ruling system of absolute thought control" can and will do anything they wish, which could be harmful to its apathetic, misled and brainwashed society. Get it? *´¨`·.¸¸.*Arsenic . So, in other words, you never said you think all religions should be banned, you never said you think people who believe in religion should be rounded up and brainwashed, you never thought you said people should have all religious texts taken away from them? Oh, right, you did. _____________________
I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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Billybob Goodliffe
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08-21-2006 16:14
So, in other words, you never said you think all religions should be banned, you never said you think people who believe in religion should be rounded up and brainwashed, you never thought you said people should have all religious texts taken away from them? Oh, right, you did. its amazing what logical thought can do, I wonder if he has ever tried it? _____________________
If life gives you lemons, you should make lemonade and try and find someone who's life has given them vodka and have a party!
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Arsenic Soyinka
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Join date: 1 Dec 2005
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08-21-2006 16:15
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You sound awefully familiar *WEB LINK DELETED* lmao ... so will now religionists here cry foul, because their rights of racism and killings are being questioned and taken to task? to the very thing they themselves are guilty of? ... (absolutely!) label me as Hitler if you like, if my opposing terrorism and death at the hands of Chritians, Jews and Muslims alike is something you approve of. America was founded on basis of Freedom and Christian Principles ... but they slaughtered (approx 5 Million) indigenous indians, and signed the Declaration Independence if only allowing Slavery Pope Pius XII helped Adolf Hitler by making a deal with him to not persecute Christians while Hitler persecuted Jews and anyone else he felt like. Fascistic Islamic Fundamentalists for the last 60 years, have ravaged, raped and murdered millions throughout the Middle East, Africa, Asia Minor and Asia, while the US Government sat back collecting oil profits from the very same Arab Countries, who now funnel their oil profits from the American People to pay Al Qaida not to bomb them George Bush, supported by Fundamentalist Christians, attacked Iraq on the basis of WMD's that did not exist, even though 1000's of weapons inpectors and Hans Blick said they didnt. and you are so shallow as to characterize me as Hitler? hah! no, i wont mention Godwin ... but i will instead say ... thanks for putting me into some good company, http://beautifulatrocities.com/archives/2005/06/in_the_future_e.html and for you, and others, not being comprehensive enough to offer any valid and compelling agrument to what was my idealistic hypothesis ( or rant as its now called ) *´¨`·.¸¸.*Arsenic . |
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Reitsuki Kojima
Witchhunter
Join date: 27 Jan 2004
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08-21-2006 16:18
and you are so shallow as to characterize me as Hitler? hah! So, in other words, you never said you think all religions should be banned, you never said you think people who believe in religion should be rounded up and brainwashed, you never thought you said people should have all religious texts taken away from them? Oh, right, you did. _____________________
I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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Billybob Goodliffe
NINJA WIZARDS!
Join date: 22 Dec 2005
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08-21-2006 16:18
. You sound awefully familiar *WEB LINK DELETED* lmao ... so will now religionists here cry foul, because their rights of racism and killings are being questioned and taken to task? to the very thing they themselves are guilty of? ... (absolutely!) label me as Hitler if you like, if my opposing terrorism and death at the hands of Chritians, Jews and Muslims alike is something you approve of. America was founded on basis of Freedom and Christian Principles ... but they slaughtered (approx 5 Million) indigenous indians, and signed the Declaration Independence if only allowing Slavery Pope Pius XII helped Adolf Hitler by making a deal with him to not persecute Christians while Hitler persecuted Jews and anyone else he felt like. Fascistic Islamic Fundamentalists for the last 60 years, have ravaged, raped and murdered millions throughout the Middle East, Africa, Asia Minor and Asia, while the US Government sat back collecting oil profits from the very same Arab Countries, who now funnel their oil profits from the American People to pay Al Qaida not to bomb them George Bush, supported by Fundamentalist Christians, attacked Iraq on the basis of WMD's that did not exist, even though 1000's of weapons inpectors and Hans Blick said they didnt. and you are so shallow as to characterize me as Hitler? hah! no, i wont mention Godwin ... but i will instead say ... thanks for putting me into some good company, http://beautifulatrocities.com/archives/2005/06/in_the_future_e.html and for you, and others, not being comprehensive enough to offer any valid and compelling agrument to what was my idealistic hypothesis ( or rant as its now called ) *´¨`·.¸¸.*Arsenic . You are assuming I'm actually christian, which is only partially true. Since you are still delusional and blame religion for everything instead of the REAL reasons involved you may continue your rant, but know this, we laugh at your insular thinking. _____________________
If life gives you lemons, you should make lemonade and try and find someone who's life has given them vodka and have a party!
I asked God directly, and he says you're a douchebag. Commander of the Militant Wing of the Salvation Army http://e-pec.info/forum/blog/billybob_goodliffe |
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Arsenic Soyinka
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Join date: 1 Dec 2005
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08-21-2006 16:28
instead of the REAL reasons involved ... you may continue your rant, but know this, we laugh at your insular thinking. mock hysteria of group laughter defending the indefensible doesnt bother me ... and i make no assumptions ... its a general "you" soooo now ... what about the "REAL reasons involved"? enlighten me Arsenic ·.¸·: . |
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Lorelei Patel
was here
Join date: 22 Feb 2004
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08-21-2006 16:35
Arsenic, in case you forgot what you said:
... but no one will admit that ... the following should be passed by a UN Resolution and enforced by a strong UN Military Force: ban all religious holy wars, like for the last 5000 years ... then ban the Old Testament, the New Testament, the Book of Revelations, and the Koran too strip search everyone, and conviscate their Bibles, Crucifixes, and their Holy Beads then ban all religion from television, satellite communications and the internet ... finally send everyone for deprogramming who has been brainwashed by the concept of heaven, the resurrection, and raping 7 virgins somewhere along the line ... dont forget to impeach the religious extremeist President Bush, who has turned America into a Fascistic Religious State like Iran and Israel, and who also knows how to start Holy Wars, but doesnt know how to end them that should help clear things up ... and one more thing ... ban long purple robes, black hats and beards ‡ arsenic ‡ You sure you wanna stand behind all that? _____________________
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Reitsuki Kojima
Witchhunter
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08-21-2006 16:35
what about the "REAL reasons involved"? Expansionism, vendettas, xenophobia, politics, economics, for example. Just for starters. _____________________
I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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Amy Faddoul
Carrion Eater
Join date: 13 Aug 2004
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08-21-2006 16:35
The US is smaller than it likes to think it is, in the great scheme of things. If they put their minds to it, the Chinese could crush you. (And us too, for that matter. But that's not the point.) If they put thier minds to it, 4 drunken irishmen and a 15 year old chiuahua could crush you. |
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Billybob Goodliffe
NINJA WIZARDS!
Join date: 22 Dec 2005
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08-21-2006 16:37
mock hysteria of group laughter defending the indefensible doesnt bother me ... and i make no assumptions ... its a general "you" soooo now ... what about the "REAL reasons involved"? enlighten me Arsenic ·.¸·: . Those religions you blame are actually just used as cover stories. The real reason is always greed. Indefensable position? Do a little research into what the instigator's motive's were. Pick a war and research the reasons. It always boils down to "I want what you have" This relates to alot of things, for example; gay marriage since homosexuality isn't mentioned in the bible and all. Now do some research outside of your little brainwashing sites. I would also suggest reading Fahrenheit 451. _____________________
If life gives you lemons, you should make lemonade and try and find someone who's life has given them vodka and have a party!
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Arsenic Soyinka
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08-21-2006 17:06
Expansionism, vendettas, xenophobia, politics, economics, for example. Just for starters. very good ... now exactly whose Expansionism, vendettas, xenophobia, politics, economics, for example. Just for starters, that i havent already mentioned? Arsenic ·.¸·: |
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Reitsuki Kojima
Witchhunter
Join date: 27 Jan 2004
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08-21-2006 17:10
very good ... now exactly whose Expansionism, vendettas, xenophobia, politics, economics, for example. Just for starters, that i havent already mentioned? Arsenic ·.¸·: People's. As in, human beings. Not as in ideas and inanimate objects. Or, wait. Haven't you gotten to the point where you understand the difference between correlation and causation? _____________________
I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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Arsenic Soyinka
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08-21-2006 17:17
This relates to alot of things, for example; gay marriage since homosexuality isn't mentioned in the bible and all. Now do some research outside of your little brainwashing sites. I would also suggest reading Fahrenheit 451. ironic you should mention 451 ... the book Christians and other Religionists are always banning and burning books ... as well as destroying other ancient relics condemned as heresy ... even the non-religious ones such as the Taj Mahal, now being threatened. and yes i do stand by my statements in their contexts so why not turn the tables on them ... ban theirs, destroy theirs, as an experiment in "as you like it" as far as the BIble goes ... Christians, in a manner of speaking, ARE "banning" the Old Testament as well as the New Testament, and the Book of Revelations but they dont go so far as to burn them ... what they do instead is to continually re-write The Bible, and the Original Scriptures ... by removing words, changing words, and by adding words that were not in the original texts. they also move and alter sentences and punctuation, giving new and different interpretations, to the original ones this is done for the purpose of changing the original meanings and intentions of the original scriptures, to promote their new 21st century fake and contrived versions of theology, and agendas of hate and bigotry. they, in effect, with this deception and Biblical Fraud, far worse than the Da Vinci Code, are banning the very essence and spirit of original religious thought, to fit in line with whomever and whatever they dont like or disagree with at the moment ... so your point on the Bible is mute but thanx anyway for a reponse that was more than 1 or 2 lines and without personal characterizations *´¨`·.¸¸.*Arsenic . |
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Reitsuki Kojima
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08-21-2006 17:21
Christians and other Religionists are always banning and burning books ... as well as destroying other ancient relics condemned as heresy ... even the non-religious ones such as the Taj Mahal, now being threatened. The only one in this thread suggesting banning books and condemning people for their beliefs, my friend, is you. _____________________
I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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Arsenic Soyinka
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08-21-2006 17:23
Or, wait. Haven't you gotten to the point where you understand the difference between correlation and causation? yea yea ... does not imply ... but it doesnt negate either is there another metaphor coming? Arsenic*.¸¸.·´¨`»* . |
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Reitsuki Kojima
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08-21-2006 17:24
yea yea ... does not imply ... but it doesnt negate either is there another metaphor coming? To negate something it has to be established in the first place. All you've done is shown a correlation. Ice cream causes heat stroke, too. I've yet to use a metaphor. _____________________
I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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Lorelei Patel
was here
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08-21-2006 17:39
so why not turn the tables on them ... ban theirs, destroy theirs, as an experiment in "as you like it" ... because you just said it was wrong??? This is a good example of why you should be careful to not become that which you hate. _____________________
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Billybob Goodliffe
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08-21-2006 19:31
ironic you should mention 451 ... the book Christians and other Religionists are always banning and burning books ... as well as destroying other ancient relics condemned as heresy ... even the non-religious ones such as the Taj Mahal, now being threatened. and yes i do stand by my statements in their contexts so why not turn the tables on them ... ban theirs, destroy theirs, as an experiment in "as you like it" as far as the BIble goes ... Christians, in a manner of speaking, ARE "banning" the Old Testament as well as the New Testament, and the Book of Revelations but they dont go so far as to burn them ... what they do instead is to continually re-write The Bible, and the Original Scriptures ... by removing words, changing words, and by adding words that were not in the original texts. they also move and alter sentences and punctuation, giving new and different interpretations, to the original ones this is done for the purpose of changing the original meanings and intentions of the original scriptures, to promote their new 21st century fake and contrived versions of theology, and agendas of hate and bigotry. they, in effect, with this deception and Biblical Fraud, far worse than the Da Vinci Code, are banning the very essence and spirit of original religious thought, to fit in line with whomever and whatever they dont like or disagree with at the moment ... so your point on the Bible is mute but thanx anyway for a reponse that was more than 1 or 2 lines and without personal characterizations *´¨`·.¸¸.*Arsenic . Ironically you skipped the part where I address your "religions are the root of man's problems" mistake. just to summarize what you've said so far "I think religions cause all of man's problems and should be done away with" here's reality, religion is used as a coverup for greed, lust and human fallibility. By your way of thinking patriotism/nationalism should also be banned since it starts wars and can lead to people ignoring your view. Same with economic issues, philosphical differences, and even soccer are now banned by your way of thinking all because they have started wars and caused humans to suffer. Shoot we could add cancer and all the other diseases to this list, "you have cancer so you have to be executed" please think about what you say before you type it, ok? _____________________
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Alex Fitzsimmons
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08-21-2006 20:24
Goodness.
This thread may as well merge with "Atheists who attack Christians" now ...  _____________________
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