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Israel murders more civilians. Hamas vows to retaliate

paulie Femto
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07-30-2006 21:46
http://infowars.net/articles/july2006/300706civilians.htm
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Dr Tardis
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07-30-2006 21:55
Keerist almighty.

Is it murder when you fire back at the rocket launcher that's shooting at you?
Siro Mfume
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07-30-2006 21:58
Yes. It is also murder to fire bombs at civilians or anyone for that matter. Both sides are committing murder. Israel is much, MUCH better at it.
paulie Femto
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07-30-2006 22:00
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Dr. Tardis: Keerist almighty. Is it murder when you fire back at the rocket launcher that's shooting at you?


Christ, is it too much to ask that you RTFA before shootin off yer mouth?

from the article:

"an Israeli air strike killed 54 civilians, including 37 children, on Sunday"

"Rescue workers dug through the rubble with their hands for hours, lifting out the twisted, dust-caked corpses of children."

"Qana is already a potent symbol of Lebanese civilian deaths at Israeli hands. In April 1996, Israeli shelling killed more than 100 civilians sheltering at the base of U.N. peacekeepers in Qana during Israel's "Grapes of Wrath" bombing campaign"

"SLAIN IN THEIR SLEEP. Police said Qana, about 11 km (seven miles) from the border with Israel, was bombed at 1:30 a.m. (2230 GMT on Saturday). The raid flattened a three-storey building where about 63 displaced people were in the basement. Many were killed as they slept."
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Dr Tardis
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07-30-2006 22:23
I listened to the fracking news conference on the radio on the way home.

Over and over again, I heard these words: THEY WERE SHOOTING ROCKETS AT US FROM THIS LOCATION.

What part of THAT doesn't make sense?
Kendra Bancroft
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07-30-2006 22:25
From: Dr Tardis
I listened to the fracking news conference on the radio on the way home.

Over and over again, I heard these words: THEY WERE SHOOTING ROCKETS AT US FROM THIS LOCATION.

What part of THAT doesn't make sense?


The part where you excuse Israel for their part in the slaughter.
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Dr Tardis
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07-30-2006 22:28
I ask you this:

if your neighbor kidnapped your child and then pulled out a gun and started shooting at you from his yard, what are you going to do? The police won't get there soon enough to keep you from getting killed. The gun is big enough to shoot through the walls of your house.

You shoot back until he's dead or he stops shooting. It's that simple.
Hooch Matador
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07-30-2006 22:29
From: Dr Tardis
I ask you this:

if your neighbor kidnapped your child and then pulled out a gun and started shooting at you from his yard, what are you going to do? The police won't get there soon enough to keep you from getting killed. The gun is big enough to shoot through the walls of your house.

You shoot back until he's dead or he stops shooting. It's that simple.


and kill your child too?

you're a fucking idiot
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Kendra Bancroft
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07-30-2006 22:33
From: Dr Tardis
I ask you this:

if your neighbor kidnapped your child and then pulled out a gun and started shooting at you from his yard, what are you going to do? The police won't get there soon enough to keep you from getting killed. The gun is big enough to shoot through the walls of your house.

You shoot back until he's dead or he stops shooting. It's that simple.



Here's my plan.

Simply issue every Lebanese civilian a frozen embryo to carry around in his or her pocket! (Preferably an American frozen embryo.)

As Bush press secretary Tony Snow says: Killing a frozen embryo is "murder."

It's that simple. :rolleyes:
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Dr Tardis
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07-30-2006 22:35
It's good to know that you can't engage in civilized discourse without reverting to barbaric language.


This issue is pretty simple: the people in charge of Lebanon have said that they intend to push the people of Israel into the Mediterranean. If you said that you intended to kill me, kill my family, and kill everyone I know, and then started lobbing rockets at me, I think I'd have to defend myself.

It wasn't Israel who started shooting first. It wasn't Israel who crossed international boundries to kidnap people. It's completely in Lebanon's power to end this. They simply need to hand back those two men. Until they do, every death on both sides of this war is on their heads.
Ulrika Zugzwang
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07-30-2006 22:43
An Israeli air strike killed 54 civilians, including 37 children, on Sunday.
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07-30-2006 22:47
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
An Israeli air strike killed 54 civilians, including 37 children, on Sunday.


yes.

I know.

This is war.

people die. They use their own people as weapons delivery devices (or have you missed all the news articles about suicide bombers?) They use their own children as a living shield.

If Lebanon would simply have returned the two kidnapped men, this wouldn't have happened.

It's sad, really. But we're dealing with a new Hitler, in the form of Islamic extremists. Do you want to see a second holocaust? A third world war? Appeasement didnt' work with Hitler, and just like with the Nazis, we can't give these terrorists an inch.

Defend them all you want, but they would just as happily kill you, too. Israel is being shelled indiscrimnately as we speak, in civilian population centers, no less. The only reason the people in the border towns in Israel aren't all dead is that they're hiding in bomb shelters.

So why aren't you calling out the Lebanese? Where's the hue and cry asking the Lebanese to stop?
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07-30-2006 22:51
From: Dr Tardis
It's good to know that you can't engage in civilized discourse without reverting to barbaric language.


i come into your house, take it over and live there, and send you in the tool shed in the back to eat bread and water (if you are lucky)

then when you get tired of it, you try to get your house back... now i kill your kids, and take your bread and water away

how do you suppose you would react to that?

oh yeah, what Ulrika said to

and as far as my language, you advocated shooting your own child for revenge

baby and bathwater

im sorry, your foolishness made me lose my cool
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Kendra Bancroft
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07-30-2006 22:53
From: Dr Tardis
It's sad, really. But we're dealing with a new Hitler, in the form of Islamic extremists. Do you want to see a second holocaust? A third world war? Appeasement didnt' work with Hitler, and just like with the Nazis, we can't give these terrorists an inch.



The United States and Israel ARE the new Hitler. Wake the fuck up.
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Maxx Mackenzie
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07-30-2006 22:53
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
An Israeli air strike killed 54 civilians, including 37 children, on Sunday.


From the Jerusalem Post

From: someone
Olmert said that the area was a focal point for the firing of Katyusha rockets on Kiryat Shmona and Afula. He said that from the outset of the conflict, “hundreds of rockets have been fired from the Qana area.”


But i doubt these comments will change opinions. So... happy foruming :)
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Dr Tardis
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07-30-2006 22:56
From: Hooch Matador
and as far as my language, you advocated shooting your own child for revenge



First of all, I never advocated shooting my own child. You're the one who put those words in my mouth.

Second, Israel is recognized by the world as a soverign nation. All your tripe about them illegally occupying others' land is simply crap. As a matter of fact, the land that Israel occupies was already owned by Jews prior to the re-establishment of the nation of Israel. There was no illegal occupation, just a formalization of a nation that already existed. Who the frack do you THINK built Jerusalem?

Cry all you want about it, but the simple fact is that those people who are currently shelling Israeli homes would happily come over here and slit your throat. At least the Israelis had the decency to apologize for hitting that building. I heard THAT part with my own ears.
Hooch Matador
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07-30-2006 22:56
From: Dr Tardis
yes.

I know.

This is war.

people die. They use their own people as weapons delivery devices (or have you missed all the news articles about suicide bombers?) They use their own children as a living shield.

If Lebanon would simply have returned the two kidnapped men, this wouldn't have happened.

It's sad, really. But we're dealing with a new Hitler, in the form of Islamic extremists. Do you want to see a second holocaust? A third world war? Appeasement didnt' work with Hitler, and just like with the Nazis, we can't give these terrorists an inch.

Defend them all you want, but they would just as happily kill you, too. Israel is being shelled indiscrimnately as we speak, in civilian population centers, no less. The only reason the people in the border towns in Israel aren't all dead is that they're hiding in bomb shelters.

So why aren't you calling out the Lebanese? Where's the hue and cry asking the Lebanese to stop?


i was going to pick apart your ignorance peice by piece

but frankly, you wouldnt understand anyway

your simplistic world view is

brown = bad
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Hooch Matador
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07-30-2006 22:56
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The United States and Israel ARE the new Hitler. Wake the fuck up.


QFT
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Fmeh Tagore
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07-30-2006 22:57
From: Kendra Bancroft
The United States and Israel ARE the new Hitler. Wake the fuck up.


I've wanted to say that for this past week but never had the guts to.
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07-30-2006 22:57
From: Maxx Mackenzie
From the Jerusalem Post



But i doubt these comments will change opinions. So... happy foruming :)


Olmert is a ghoul. How many of those 37 children were terrorists?

Or shall we just use the Hebrew word for "wooooops"?
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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07-30-2006 22:58
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... Hitler ...
There's a red flag on the field. Godwin's invoked without the slightest understanding of WWII or the current situation. Referees are setting up for the penalty kick. One more penalty and the Dr will be ejected from the game, leaving his team, the Right Wing Knuckle Draggers, a player short.

~Ulrika~
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07-30-2006 22:58
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I've wanted to say that for this past week but never had the guts to.


you are not alone here, my friend

others see what is happening and will do EVERYTHING in their power to stop it
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Maxx Mackenzie
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07-30-2006 23:02
From: Hooch Matador
you are not alone here, my friend

others see what is happening and will do EVERYTHING in their power to stop it


Yup!

Including shooting random Jews :)

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Dr Tardis
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07-30-2006 23:03
From: Hooch Matador
i was going to pick apart your ignorance peice by piece

but frankly, you wouldnt understand anyway

your simplistic world view is

brown = bad



This from someone named after moonshine whiskey?

Please. I live in a town where there's more brown than white. If you're simply going to stoop to insulting remarks, I'm done.
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07-30-2006 23:04



I would give posts like this more attention if I saw the same moral outrage when suicide bombers are blowing up school children on busses in Jerusalem.
Until then this is just more verbage from the unknowing and the clueless.
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