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Neehai Zapata
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10-31-2005 18:23
And seriously folks...I propose that SL host some online political science classes. What kind of candy coated, rose colored world do you folks live in. Whenever you are ready to learn and not ignore the facts whle debating whether a hug is an action, I will be glad to teach you about not only political science but recent history. _____________________
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Paige Diamond
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10-31-2005 18:39
Whenever you are ready to learn and not ignore the facts whle debating whether a hug is an action, I will be glad to teach you about not only political science but recent history. Facts are the only things I have presented in this thread. People have responded to me with personal attacks and claims that ring hollow. If the poor man/woman wasn't sure that an hug was an action I was just trying to inform his that it was...nothing more. I'm an educator. Maybe you could teach me something, who knows. However, I was only offering help to the delusional who, like it or not, are unfamiliar with politics all together. |
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Neehai Zapata
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10-31-2005 18:42
Maybe you could teach me something, who knows. However, I was only offering help to the delusional who, like it or not, are unfamiliar with politics all together. My facts are in this thread. Delusional? And you complain of personal attacks. There is a word for people like you. _____________________
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Neehai Zapata
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10-31-2005 18:44
I will always remember GWB talking to the rescue workers in NYC after 9/11 and I will always remember GWB hugging the young African American girl after Katrina. So your facts are that you have seen George Bush hugging and talking? (although not necessarily at the same time) Those are pretty hard facts to argue with. I will accept that Bush is capable of both hugging and talking. (although not necessarily at the same time) _____________________
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Memory Harker
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10-31-2005 18:51
... a guy who'd be a used car salesman in Texas if he didn't have George H.W. Bush as his daddy ain't working for shit. Aliasi, please. You are giving W way too much credit.  |
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Flyingroc Chung
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10-31-2005 18:52
To be fair, Jaime probably doesn't think of either San Francisco or NYC as America. While NYC and SF are part of America, so is rural Virginia, where I currently reside. And believe me, people here like GWB. I'm not american, but I've been here in the US almost as long as George W. Bush has been president. And I think he's a good leader. He's not exceptional, but he's not bad either. The economy is growing at a good rate, in fact it seems that the US economy is going to weather the destruction of the hurricanes with barely a hiccup. (Consider that the destruction of whole cities is so rare they become stuff of myth -- Atlantis, Pompeii). Unemployment is a bit of a problem, but it's nowhere as bad as it is in Europe. My taxes have gone down. And as a poor grad student, I'm grateful. Could the Bush gov't have done better? Probably. They could've handled the war in Iraq better. They could've been better prepared for the hurricane, etc. etc. And for their failings, the gov't *should* be criticized. Overall though, the president seems to be doing what he said he would do. During the campaign, Bush said he would cut taxes, continue the war in iraq, put conservative judges on the bench. On that platform, he won the last elections decisively. _____________________
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Juro Kothari
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10-31-2005 18:59
With that in mind, this is not a new issue that New Orleans is facing. This is not a GWB issue. This is a New Orleans issue. Maybe is their mayor didn't come off like a mad man he would be able to get some funding. Two things that can be directly attributed to good 'ol Dubya that *may* have helped protect New Orleans during the hurricane and also helped with the restoration after the disaster. His administration is responsible for cutting funding to the levee project. The Army Corp requested $11 Million for the levee project, the President's budget earmarked $3 Million. Would this money have prevented the levee breach and flooding? Doubtful. Would it have been as severe as it was? Probably not. The recovery could have been improved and I don't think there is anyone who would argue that point. FEMA and the Federal response was absolutely pathetic. I blame our President for this fiasco because he appointed a completely inexperienced man to run FEMA. Had someone been appointed that actually had experience, no doubt the relief efforts would have been different. So, I'm sorry, but in my mind this is absolutely a GWB issue. There was nothing he could have done to stop it, but he certainly contributed to its disastrous wake. http://www.factcheck.org/article344.html _____________________
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Juro Kothari
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10-31-2005 19:11
This might be of interest: Katrina: What Happened When
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Aliasi Stonebender
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10-31-2005 19:36
Not so. The American people believe what I am saying. They elected George W. Bush. I didn't elect him alone. You mean, slightly over half of those who bothered to show up for the last election, and slightly UNDER half of those who showed up for the one before that, right? A real mandate of the people, all right. _____________________
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Aliasi Stonebender
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10-31-2005 19:39
Again! Please! This country was founded by Puritans who were so right-wing they'd make the Libertarian party look Liberal. I call shennaniagans on you. The country was founded largely by men who were products of the Enlightenment and not blindly religious in the same way your modern day bible-thumper is. Read a history book, you may learn something! _____________________
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Aliasi Stonebender
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10-31-2005 19:41
Its obvious that neither side here is going to convince the other of anything. But you know what? I'll sleep more soundly tonight than the leftists because I know that this country is run by conservative individuals whose values and outlooks are similar to the American peoples'. God Bless America!! I'm American. I live in mortal fear of the wackos running this country who wish to have first-row seats for Judgement Day. Go to hell. _____________________
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Eboni Khan
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10-31-2005 20:18
NCLB has been the best thing to come out this administration. A lot of suburban schools have complained because the reporting has brought out a lot of dirty secrets (like none of their subgroups were improving) but for inner city and some poorer districts it has made a real positive change in a lot of childrens lives. And the scores are up even if they are still dismal.
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Kendra Bancroft
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10-31-2005 21:03
NCLB has been the best thing to come out this administration. A lot of suburban schools have complained because the reporting has brought out a lot of dirty secrets (like none of their subgroups were improving) but for inner city and some poorer districts it has made a real positive change in a lot of childrens lives. And the scores are up even if they are still dismal. NCLB was started by Teddy Kennedy. Too bad GWB doesn't fund it. _____________________
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Paige Diamond
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10-31-2005 21:04
My facts are in this thread. Delusional? And you complain of personal attacks. There is a word for people like you. I called a *goup* of people delusional. In order for an attack to be personal, it must be directed to a single person, like the kind that have been directed towards me. Let me give you an example. Ex. Neehai Zapata is a shortsighted nimwit that cannot construct an argument. That was an example of a personal attack...of course, I in no way actually mean that. BTW, there is no need to provide me with an example of your own. I have a very good understanding of the english language and need no additional lessons. Because I refuse to spend all night lecturing you Bush bashers who *must* assign blame for everything that occurs on God's green earth I leave you with one final comment. Why is it that this thread was started as a means to give credit to someone who has taken more than his fair share of bashing over the past few years (sometimes deservedly so), yet all any most of you folks can do is bash, bash, bash...most with absurd arguments that have no merit. It's too bad that all the energy you bashers use posting cannot be used for something more positive. It's much too easy to be a critic...one day try giving a compliment instead. America! |
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Kendra Bancroft
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10-31-2005 21:11
I called a *goup* of people delusional. In order for an attack to be personal, it must be directed to a single person, like the kind that have been directed towards me. Let me give you an example. Ex. Neehai Zapata is a shortsighted nimwit that cannot construct an argument. That was an example of a personal attack...of course, I in no way actually mean that. BTW, there is no need to provide me with an example of your own. I have a very good understanding of the english language and need no additional lessons. Because I refuse to spend all night lecturing you Bush bashers who *must* assign blame for everything that occurs on God's green earth I leave you with one final comment. Why is it that this thread was started as a means to give credit to someone who has taken more than his fair share of bashing over the past few years (sometimes deservedly so), yet all any most of you folks can do is bash, bash, bash...most with absurd arguments that have no merit. It's too bad that all the energy you bashers use posting cannot be used for something more positive. It's much too easy to be a critic...one day try giving a compliment instead. America! Okay --here's a compliment for George W. Bush. He's not as stupid as his followers. _____________________
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Juro Kothari
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10-31-2005 21:20
Why is it that this thread was started as a means to give credit to someone who has taken more than his fair share of bashing over the past few years (sometimes deservedly so), yet all any most of you folks can do is bash, bash, bash...most with absurd arguments that have no merit. It's too bad that all the energy you bashers use posting cannot be used for something more positive. It's much too easy to be a critic...one day try giving a compliment instead. I'll give you my best guess. For one, he's a f*cking idiot. Of course, that's just my personal opinion and really doesn't amount to a hill of beans. I, personally, take great pleasure in pointing out his flops because it seems that his supporters, or at least every one of them that I've exchanged words with, cannot or will not recognize some of the major mistakes that he's made. It's almost as if they're reading from some strange script that includes keywords like "Un American" "Un Patriotic" and so on - to use against those who might have something negative to say about him, his performance, or his agenda. That is absolute bull - calling an American un-patriotic because they don't agree with actions of OUR government?! That is un-patriotic and totally un-American. That's why I take delight in it, because they are unwilling to say "Ya... he's f*cked up a bit, but hey, I still like him." There's also that little chip on my shoulder with him and his party trying to dictate who I can and cannot be spouses with. I pay my taxes just like every other American - so what makes anyone think they can tell me "No, you can't marry him." Yes, I'm a little bitter over it - but I just sit back and relax knowing that time is on my side - not thiers. _____________________
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Juro Kothari
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10-31-2005 21:21
Okay --here's a compliment for George W. Bush. He's not as stupid as his followers. Yes, there's that too.  _____________________
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Kendra Bancroft
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10-31-2005 21:24
There's also that little chip on my shoulder with him and his party trying to dictate who I can and cannot be spouses with. I pay my taxes just like every other American - so what makes anyone think they can tell me "No, you can't marry him." Yes, I'm a little bitter over it - but I just sit back and relax knowing that time is on my side - not thiers Exactly. Republicans believe "The Government should decide for The People" Democrats believe "The People should decide for The Government." _____________________
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Jamie Bergman
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10-31-2005 21:32
I call shennaniagans on you. The country was founded largely by men who were products of the Enlightenment and not blindly religious in the same way your modern day bible-thumper is. Read a history book, you may learn something! And I call bullsh*t on you. |
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Kendra Bancroft
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10-31-2005 21:37
And I call bullsh*t on you. Why? She's correct. _____________________
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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10-31-2005 21:38
And I call bullsh*t on you. ~Ulrika~ _____________________
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David Valentino
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10-31-2005 23:24
Ok...I get it! jamie is actually a liberal democrat that throws incredibly silly ideas, rhetoric and proverbs out to us so that we can chomp them apart. Nice job Jamie! Keep up the good work!
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Ledje Gorky
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11-01-2005 01:03
I'm glad i dont i live in America.
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Alexa Hope
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11-01-2005 04:09
Me too Ledje.
Would I want Bush to be my President were I an American? - NO Do I think he is an idiot? - YES Did he do enough and quickly enough for New Orleans? - NO Does he give a damn about the people of America? - NO Is God on his side? - NO supposing there is a God Does he have a low IQ? - YES no surprise there Does he own a poodle? - YES my Prime Minister Tony Blair Is he pro pollution and anti green policies? - YES Quite honestly how anyone voted for this man in the election is beyond my comprehension. Alexa _____________________
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Eboni Khan
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11-01-2005 04:24
NCLB was started by Teddy Kennedy. Too bad GWB doesn't fund it. Everyone says NCLB isn't funded yet a large majority of schools are swimming in money. In my professional experience with the public education system in America (I have worked with almost every major school district in the country, and hundreds of small ones) is that schools have plenty of money, like the rest of the government they just waste it. |
