Abortion takes a human life away.

want to attempt to prove that?

Could you prove that God DOES exist?

Hmm, what does the Bible say about picking and choosing?

“For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV)


http://thebricktestament.com/the_teachings_of_jesus/on_the_law_of_moses/mt05_17.html

So this still stands.

"Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

http://thebricktestament.com/the_law/religious_tolerance/dt13_13-15.html

Do they have a jar or something for it to stay in?

Although this thread was conceived on Page 1, I think it really developed into maturity around Pages 3-4. Isn't it a darling little thing?

I assume since you believe abortion is murder, you're always against the killing of all human beings, so you're against the death penalty and are a total pacifist. Oh, marriage also sometimes results in death, so you must be against that. Actually, you must be against everything, since pretty much everything can cause death in some way at some time.

Oh, wait, you're not? What's that I smell? I believe it's the foul stench of hypocrisy....

I love you folks who say you're against "abortion on demand". As if there were a 24-hour waiting period, you'd be cool with it.

The trouble with threads is that, unless you induce labour, they just keep growing and growing. I pity the woman who brings "Free accounts will make more furries" to term. Nurse! A triple epidural please!

Could you prove that it's worth caring about, or can ever be anything but a pointless debate?



No. It should have been aborted!

Or maybe if someone else said you should have it. We don't want women having abortions because they want to, now, do we? They're poor little creatures who need protecting from their hysterical whims....

Kevn never said he was against abortion, just that abortion is murder. Murder is ok according to the Bible. In fact, it even gives instructions on how long to hang somebody if they commit a sin worthy of death.

http://thebricktestament.com/the_law/how_long_to_hang_somebody/dt21_22.html

Great point and well played.

Agreed, that is an excellent point.


By the way, I wonder how many unwanted children Kevn has adopted.

DAMN! i adore you

What's that I smell? Could it be a red herring stuffed inside of a straw man? Why, yes it is!

Ignoratio elenchi. People die all the time, and it's always tragic. And yes, almost anything carries with it some risk of death. However, that does not mean that all the circumstances of all deaths are equal, nor does it mean that anything which carries with it the possibility of death equates to certain death.

Or, to put it more simply, "Tragic deaths resulting from random circumstances are not the same thing as deaths caused by an act that was intended to result in death. Dur." That's why it's murder if I, say, shoot you in the face, because I was kind of trying to kill you there, and not murder if I, say, serve you enchiladas cooked in peanut oil, not knowing you were allergic to peanuts.

he exists to me, but then again it is more an emotional and spiritual "being" I guess.

So the bible is absolutely literally correct about everything, is it? How about this one:

"When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go free as male slaves do."
-- Exodus 21:7

So slavery's cool then.

How about Leviticus 24? "He that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him." Should we really stone anyone who blasphemes the name of the Lord? OK then. If you hear your neighbor swearing at his lawnmower this weekend, look for a few good rocks.

Hey, you know what, speaking of swearing and lewdity, go check out Ezekiel 23 . Bet they don't read that section aloud in Sunday School, now do they?

And then here's Leviticus 10, v. 9-10: "These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat.
And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you"

If you protest abortion clinics because of your biblical beliefs, you should protest Red Lobster, as well.

Pffft. Except for their cheese biscuits, nothing there is fit to eat anyways.

How good of you to summarize your own response ahead of time for us all. This is like a corporate memo, or a college essay!


You're right. Like if Iraqi civilians die, most conservative Bible-thumpers have no problem. But if one American fetus is at risk, you organize a protest. How ignorant and hypocritical.


My post had nothing to do with accidental vs. purposeful death, really. Yet again you managed to take a tertiary issue and make it a main one. Congratulations

None of that clarifies why one can be against abortion because it causes death and not the death penalty or all wars. By your definition, people who do are hypocrits.

Anyone who opposes abortion because it causes deaths, but not guns, the death penalty, and all wars, is in my book a hypocrit.

don't worry, you only kill innocent possible people as opposed to punishing those who made their evil choices. Please get a grip on yourself.

Ahh, because I disagree with the Great Billybob I'm what, mentally unbalanced? Talk about getting a grip on yourself.

You really think war or the death penalty never killed an innocent person? Are you a moron?

This termite thinks you should read the rest of my posts in this thread.

Edit to add - don't forget about four legged insects and those cud chewing rabbits.

True enough. He might be OK with murder.

People who are against abortion have obviously never heard of Dr Malthus. He's kind of tangential to my main point, though interesting reading in his own right.

To me, death is just part of the great cycle of life, and it is neither a terrible thing to be avoided at all costs, nor is it even a necessary evil. To me, death is a necessary good. To be sure, some of the things traditionally associated with death, such as war, famine, and plague, are evil, but eath in itself is not.

If you don't believe me, imagine a world in which no one ever died.