Abortion takes a human life away.

fetus was the wrong choice of words, zygote is what I should have said.

Ah, but we're not really arguing about first trimester abortions here, contrary to what Kevn might have tried when we started this thread.

Is that the slaughter of the innocent?

The only real sin you can commit is to deny god anyways. You can be a muderer and still goto heaven. Heck, the bible tells you to kill people and we are concerned about zygotes, etc...?

God does not exist.

I know that.

I guess it depends where the innocents live. For example, what if a zygote lived in the promised land? Lets see what the Bible says.


When the LORD your God brings you into the land you are about to enter and occupy, he will clear away many nations ahead of you: the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites. These seven nations are all more powerful than you. When the LORD your God hands these nations over to you and you conquer them, you must completely destroy them. Make no treaties with them and show them no mercy. Do not intermarry with them, and don't let your daughters and sons marry their sons and daughters. They will lead your young people away from me to worship other gods. Then the anger of the LORD will burn against you, and he will destroy you. (Deuteronomy 7:1-4 NLT)

And also:

20. “29. And it came to pass, that at midnight the Lord smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle.”
- Exodus , 12/29

Kevn, your god slaughters innocent children who just happened to have been born first.

Regardless, I reported the first post as a troll, and I hope everyone else has. I am sick of your holier-than-thou shit, you fucking waste of skin.

Cattle too? Dang, now that is serious stuff.

I notice the OP is not arguing abortion is wrong, just that it is murder. Given that the Bible says murder is ok both for firsborns and cows, I'm not sure what his point was.

Yikes. This is a little bit vulgar and extreme.

His only point it to start a bullshit thread like this that goes on for 20 pages and spawns a load of parody threads that will take up the entire first page of the sandbox.

I am usually a pretty tolerant person, but I loathe christian fundementalist trolls with every fiber of my being. It's worth a three day ban to get this thread locked.

KEVN FUCKS GOATS.

I really don't care anymore. People like Kevn have made this place a cesspool. I am hoping I am banned so I don't have the option of reading his garbage. I even tried to report myself, but I don't have that option.

I'm shocked but I agree with you also on this. You probably learned through experience, sadly I only realised this when I studied developmental psychology and saw of the evidence of how far a baby develops in the last two trimesters.

BTW I don't believe in God.

Into the soup pot! Yum!

My stance on the matter that abortion is still a choice. I don't see why a woman should every be forced to throw her life away for another who isn't even known yet (the child).
It's kinda the girl's fault for making the mistake in many cases, but you've also got things like rape to consider. Should a girl be forced to lose everything that makes her life hers and raise a child that is now dependant on her? Especially when it wasn't her choice and she is not prepared for it at all?

That and I think there are far too many people as it is, we need less people, not more, as we can't cope with those we have as it is.

But why miss a golden opportunity to show what the fundies say?


The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians.
-- Pat Robertson, fundraising letter, 1992

It is interesting, that termites don't build things, and the great builders of our nation almost to a man have been Christians, because Christians have the desire to build something. He is motivated by love of man and God, so he builds. The people who have come into [our] institutions [today] are primarily termites. They are into destroying institutions that have been built by Christians, whether it is universities, governments, our own traditions, that we have.... The termites are in charge now, and that is not the way it ought to be, and the time has arrived for a godly fumigation.
-- Pat Robertson, New York Magazine, August 18, 1986

And one of my favorites, it seems only some types of Christians are worthy of ruling the unwashed masses.

You say you're supposed to be nice to the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians and the Methodists and this, that, and the other thing. Nonsense. I don't have to be nice to the spirit of the Antichrist. I can love the people who hold false opinions but I don't have to be nice to them.
-- Pat Robertson, The 700 Club television program, January 14, 1991

Pat Robertson is a lunatic.

What record is that?

For the record, abortion as a primary means of birth control is beyond repugnant.

It is in my opinion, a necessary evil.

If people would put as much effort into reducing the demand and need for abortion as they did debating it, the world would be a better place.

I find it odd that the christian religions that are the most strongly opposed to abortion are also the ones who are the most strongly opposed to contraception.

It's that whole "be fruitful and multiply" thing (keep in mind, you aren't supposed to be having sex before you're married, either)

Religion, created by man to control man look like it works in the main

Stem cell research

Details schmetails. Ignoring contradictions is what being a brain dead fundie is all about.

Is God merciful or not? You decide!

"I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy." (Jer. 13:14) "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not, but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling."

"The Lord is very pitiful and of tender mercy." (James 5:11)
"For his mercy endureth forever." (1 Chron. 16:34)
"The Lord is good to all, and his tender mercies are over all his works." (Ps. 145:9)
"God is love." (1 John 4:16)

You're only saying that because you're a termite.

Since Gabe isn't here yet.....


NONE OF US EXIST.

If I was christian, that would be one of those rules I would conveniently choose to ignore.