I told you so.
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Siobhan OFlynn
Evildoer
Join date: 19 Aug 2003
Posts: 1,140
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08-10-2006 10:06
From: Joy Honey You can always go troll  I hereby bequeath 1000 posts to Siobhan OFlynn I'm honored to accept Joy's brilliant posts. She is a true artiste and I can only aspire to be more like her by accepting this generous donation. I <3 Joy. Look, Linden's, we're playing nice, please don't shut down the playground!
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From: Starax Statosky Absolute freedom is heavenly. I'm sure they don't have a police force and resmods in heaven. From: pandastrong Fairplay omgeveryonegetoutofmythreadrightnowican'ttakeit From: Soleil Mirabeau I'll miss all of you assholes. 
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Lecktor Hannibal
YOUR MOM
Join date: 1 Jul 2004
Posts: 6,734
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08-10-2006 10:06
From: Jack Harker Hmm...looks like they got tired with being called on all of the mistakes that they've been making over the last few months, and instead of dealing with the mistakes, have instead decided to try to silence the criticism by eliminating the forum where it shows up.
Well, that's their privilege, but it won't stop the criticism, it'll likely just move to 3rd party forums, where they'll have even *less* control over it.
So, what's everyone's opinion about the best 3rd party SL related forum site? http://forums.secondcitizen.com/ http://www.sluniverse.com/forums/
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YOUR MOM says, 'Come visit us at SC MKII http://secondcitizen.net ' From: Khamon Fate Oh, Lecktor, you're terrible. Bikers have more fun than people !
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Ryan00 Odets
just a stupid redneck!
Join date: 17 Dec 2005
Posts: 289
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08-10-2006 10:06
From: Nolan Nash You can thank the folks who beat the same damned topics to death, day in, day out.
At some point, they were bound to get sick of the ever increasing signal to noise ratio.
Color me not surprised. And exactually what are you doing now complaing about people complaing about people complaing. The plus side to this is now you can bash somebody and not worry about getting banned from game. That is the only advantage I see of them getting rid of the forums. I think what is the real reason for the closng is the fact LL doesnt want to have to babysit people on their forums. (I am one of those people) And its to time consuming to constatly review and disiplline people that are suppose to be adults!
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Phedre Aquitaine
I am the zombie queen
Join date: 26 Jan 2006
Posts: 1,157
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08-10-2006 10:07
Oh, and another nice "fuck you" to everyone who uses the commercial section of the forums.
Good job, LL. Really fucking brilliant.
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nimrod Yaffle
Cavemen are people too...
Join date: 15 Nov 2004
Posts: 3,146
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08-10-2006 10:07
There goes my SL. 
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Lordfly Digeridoo
Prim Orchestrator
Join date: 21 Jul 2003
Posts: 3,628
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08-10-2006 10:07
SC is full of trolls and no-bit accounts that think "cum bubble" is the pinnacle of wit. SLU is a bit clunky, and no one seems to use it (even though snapzilla is used a hojillion times a day).
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Wrom Morrison
Validated User
Join date: 15 Apr 2006
Posts: 462
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08-10-2006 10:08
Before they freeze the forum, I call for a...
Great Gorean Auction!
On Auction
1. Gorean Slave 1. Furry 1. Age-player
Bonus, get an age playing mech slave with tail when you win all three.
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Siobhan OFlynn
Evildoer
Join date: 19 Aug 2003
Posts: 1,140
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08-10-2006 10:08
From: Lecktor Hannibal I see your 1000 and raise you 500. Um, is this going to end up with me blowing my brains out? 
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From: Starax Statosky Absolute freedom is heavenly. I'm sure they don't have a police force and resmods in heaven. From: pandastrong Fairplay omgeveryonegetoutofmythreadrightnowican'ttakeit From: Soleil Mirabeau I'll miss all of you assholes. 
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Joy Honey
Not just another dumass
Join date: 17 Jun 2005
Posts: 3,751
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08-10-2006 10:09
From: Siobhan OFlynn I'm honored to accept Joy's brilliant posts. She is a true artiste and I can only aspire to be more like her by accepting this generous donation. I <3 Joy. Look, Linden's, we're playing nice, please don't shut down the playground! You know, if it weren't for the forums, I wouldn't have met such wonderful people in world. /me is sad and blames Taco. I <3 Sio too.
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Reality continues to ruin my life. - Calvin
You have delighted us long enough. - Jane Austen
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Lecktor Hannibal
YOUR MOM
Join date: 1 Jul 2004
Posts: 6,734
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08-10-2006 10:09
From: Lordfly Digeridoo SC is full of trolls and no-bit accounts that think "cum bubble" is the pinnacle of wit. SLU is a bit clunky, and no one seems to use it (even though snapzilla is used a hojillion times a day). Alrighty then, your links please? /troll bows out
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YOUR MOM says, 'Come visit us at SC MKII http://secondcitizen.net ' From: Khamon Fate Oh, Lecktor, you're terrible. Bikers have more fun than people !
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Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
Join date: 15 May 2003
Posts: 7,141
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08-10-2006 10:09
From: Hok Wakawaka Ummm:
It's their perogative to do so
Don't blame the community for speaking it's mind. No, it was. Past tense. And it's also LL's perogative to shut it down when the same shit is argued about for literally years on end. I am not glad to see them go either, I spend a lot of time on here, albeit mostly lurking these days, but it was really to be expected. I find myself lurking more and more as time goes on, precisely because of the many redundant loops that have been going for years now. If Janie and Johnny can never agree to at least attempt to play nicely, Mom and Dad will eventually take the hobby horse and toss it in the rubbish bin.
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Phedre Aquitaine
I am the zombie queen
Join date: 26 Jan 2006
Posts: 1,157
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08-10-2006 10:09
From: Lordfly Digeridoo SC is full of trolls and no-bit accounts that think "cum bubble" is the pinnacle of wit. While I don't post there often, I do take offense. Thank you kindly.
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nimrod Yaffle
Cavemen are people too...
Join date: 15 Nov 2004
Posts: 3,146
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08-10-2006 10:09
Why am I the only one that can't get SC to work?  I don't recieve the activation email, so I can't signup. (And yes, I've checked my spam folder.)
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VolatileWhimsy Bu
Registered User
Join date: 27 Jun 2006
Posts: 1,492
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08-10-2006 10:09
I do have to say, everyone that i speak to in world are the ppl i've met on the forums..  i am actually a bit reserved.. /snort
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Lecktor Hannibal
YOUR MOM
Join date: 1 Jul 2004
Posts: 6,734
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08-10-2006 10:09
From: Siobhan OFlynn Um, is this going to end up with me blowing my brains out?  Is your heart beating faster ???? 
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YOUR MOM says, 'Come visit us at SC MKII http://secondcitizen.net ' From: Khamon Fate Oh, Lecktor, you're terrible. Bikers have more fun than people !
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Siobhan OFlynn
Evildoer
Join date: 19 Aug 2003
Posts: 1,140
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08-10-2006 10:10
From: Lordfly Digeridoo SC is full of trolls and no-bit accounts that think "cum bubble" is the pinnacle of wit. SLU is a bit clunky, and no one seems to use it (even though snapzilla is used a hojillion times a day). I am not a troll and I frequent the SC forums. I personally find them rather amusing. And without that resmoddy aftertaste I get from reading the SL forums. 
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From: Starax Statosky Absolute freedom is heavenly. I'm sure they don't have a police force and resmods in heaven. From: pandastrong Fairplay omgeveryonegetoutofmythreadrightnowican'ttakeit From: Soleil Mirabeau I'll miss all of you assholes. 
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Siobhan OFlynn
Evildoer
Join date: 19 Aug 2003
Posts: 1,140
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08-10-2006 10:10
From: Lecktor Hannibal Is your heart beating faster ????  How did you know that?!! 
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From: Starax Statosky Absolute freedom is heavenly. I'm sure they don't have a police force and resmods in heaven. From: pandastrong Fairplay omgeveryonegetoutofmythreadrightnowican'ttakeit From: Soleil Mirabeau I'll miss all of you assholes. 
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Lordfly Digeridoo
Prim Orchestrator
Join date: 21 Jul 2003
Posts: 3,628
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08-10-2006 10:12
From: Phedre Aquitaine While I don't post there often, I do take offense. Thank you kindly. I used to post there, but come on, you know who I'm talking about. Prok, Fic.tional, mulch, and notta.linden pretty much run the show.
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Lecktor Hannibal
YOUR MOM
Join date: 1 Jul 2004
Posts: 6,734
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08-10-2006 10:12
From: Siobhan OFlynn How did you know that?!!  BANG
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YOUR MOM says, 'Come visit us at SC MKII http://secondcitizen.net ' From: Khamon Fate Oh, Lecktor, you're terrible. Bikers have more fun than people !
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Siobhan OFlynn
Evildoer
Join date: 19 Aug 2003
Posts: 1,140
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08-10-2006 10:12
From: Joy Honey You know, if it weren't for the forums, I wouldn't have met such wonderful people in world.
/me is sad and blames Taco.
I <3 Sio too. I'm blaming Taco, too. He's our Canada, today! Get the pitchforks and the torches! 
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From: Starax Statosky Absolute freedom is heavenly. I'm sure they don't have a police force and resmods in heaven. From: pandastrong Fairplay omgeveryonegetoutofmythreadrightnowican'ttakeit From: Soleil Mirabeau I'll miss all of you assholes. 
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Siobhan OFlynn
Evildoer
Join date: 19 Aug 2003
Posts: 1,140
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08-10-2006 10:13
From: Lecktor Hannibal BANG F*CK! 
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From: Starax Statosky Absolute freedom is heavenly. I'm sure they don't have a police force and resmods in heaven. From: pandastrong Fairplay omgeveryonegetoutofmythreadrightnowican'ttakeit From: Soleil Mirabeau I'll miss all of you assholes. 
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Finning Widget
No Ravens in my Mailbox
Join date: 27 Feb 2006
Posts: 591
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08-10-2006 10:13
There will be other ways and other forums. There always are. It just removes the headache from Linden Labs of having to police the forums, and hands it to the people who take them for granted.
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Jack Harker
Registered User
Join date: 4 May 2005
Posts: 552
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08-10-2006 10:14
From: Michi Lumin I think it may force some of the drama hounds to leave, get rid of some of the spread of tension and needless fighting, and force others in-world who spend most of their time on the forums; (in other words, it'd put the concentration of discussion and interaction where it belongs: on SL) , Actually, I do spend a lot of time in-world, just with alts rather than with my main account. Mostly I stay on my own land and build, or socilize with a few close friends, so I prefer the privacy that a more limited friends list on an alt gives me. From: Michi Lumin But i think also it could make LL a lot less accessible to residents. Showstoppers, exploits, 'unacceptable changes' and 'undocumented slip-in changes' won't really be able to be reacted to as quickly, and community support for certain changes or against certain changes will not be as easily demonstrated.
(example: the recent undocumented LOD changes, which were only reversed and remedied after demonstration of widespread support in the forums for their full repair.) I think that this is exactly *why* they want to eliminate the forums. So that they *don't* have to deal with resident feedback on things like changes to the user interface, increased griefing from unverified accounts, things like the 3rd party data collection thread that just took place, complaints about IP theft in game, etc. Out of sight, out of mind, and it eliminates the ability of people to get together and make their concerns known in an organized fashion, which means that they can ignore it, and moreover, means that they don't have to worry about their investors happening across any signs of user discontent in the forums. The Pointy Haired Bosses are in firm control at Linden Labs these days.
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Ceera Murakami
Texture Artist / Builder
Join date: 9 Sep 2005
Posts: 7,750
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My reply to that blog
08-10-2006 10:15
I think this is a *terrible* idea, myself. Tanamount to Linden Labs placing their collective fingers in their ears and shouting “La la la, I can’t hear you!” like a little brat, rather than LISTENING to the concerns of the people who make Second Life a living, thriving community.
What you’re doing is blinding and deafening yourself and the community.
I’ll admit, there’s a lot of worthless crud in the forums. But there is a lot of damned valuable community action, as well. Take the fiasco with SLStats.com, as a prime example. A new ’service’ threatened the privacy of users throughout Second Life, making a public record of who met with whom, and claiming that certain individuals ‘encountered’ others on no more basis of fact than linear proximity at the time of a surrepticious and unauthorized scan. Concerned individuals took it to the forums, voiced their concerns, pro and con, and got the unauthorized public posting of private information throttled down to a private, opt-in only service that only lists people who agreed to be monitored, and is only accessible by subscribers to the service.
In your deaf, blind and dumb vision of the new forums, where would the community have been able to turn for action? Most would have remained ignorant of the threat to their privacy. The complaints issued via the ‘official Linden channels’ STILL have not been answered! If it had been left up to only the few avenues you plan to allow to remain, that breech of privacy in SL would still be rampant.
[EDIT] The Lindens saw fit not to allow the above post to remain in their Blog. I wonder why? [/EDIT]
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Hok Wakawaka
Registered User
Join date: 9 Feb 2006
Posts: 371
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08-10-2006 10:18
From: Jack Harker Actually, I do spend a lot of time in-world, just with alts rather than with my main account. Mostly I stay on my own land and build, or socilize with a few close friends, so I prefer the privacy that a more limited friends list on an alt gives me.
I think that this is exactly *why* they want to eliminate the forums. So that they *don't* have to deal with resident feedback on things like changes to the user interface, increased griefing from unverified accounts, things like the 3rd party data collection thread that just took place, complaints about IP theft in game, etc.
Out of sight, out of mind, and it eliminates the ability of people to get together and make their concerns known in an organized fashion, which means that they can ignore it, and moreover, means that they don't have to worry about their investors happening across any signs of user discontent in the forums.
The Pointy Haired Bosses are in firm control at Linden Labs these days. L LINDEN LABS = BUNCH OF PUSSIES
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