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Phedre Aquitaine
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08-09-2006 12:42
From: Lewis Nerd
So save it for real life, because avatars aren't sexual, they're just pixels with no capability for feelings.

Why does 'adult' always have to equate 'sex'?

Lewis


Lewis, some people are capable of identifying with their avatar. I, for one, cringed all the time when I used to hang out in Rausch and got splattered.
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VolatileWhimsy Bu
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08-09-2006 12:42
From: VolatileWhimsy Bu
ok, i want someone to explain to me, how when i ask about my nipples sticking out of the clothes and if the designers could just check for me i am an attention whore..

but that person can say that?!??!?!

seriously i want to know..


I AM SERIOUS!!!

/stomps around
Kendra Bancroft
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08-09-2006 12:44
From: Lewis Nerd
So save it for real life, because avatars aren't sexual, they're just pixels with no capability for feelings.

Why does 'adult' always have to equate 'sex'?

Lewis



It doesn't. "Adult" equates with not imposing your invidual morals on others.
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VolatileWhimsy Bu
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08-09-2006 12:44
ack i see something and feel the need to point something out.. sigh

sex is not just in and out.. well unless your a boring guy :P
there is so much to a healthy sex life that it encompasses many things..

frack now im channeling dr ruth.. wth
Juro Kothari
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08-09-2006 12:47
From: Lewis Nerd
So save it for real life, because avatars aren't sexual, they're just pixels with no capability for feelings.

Why should they... because *you* said so?

Why do you feel the need to try and force your morals on everyone else. Try staying in the PG sims, Lewis.

From: Lewis Nerd
Why does 'adult' always have to equate 'sex'?

How else would you define a category that isn't suitable for minors?
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08-09-2006 12:48
From: VolatileWhimsy Bu
frack now im channeling dr ruth.. wth

You VILL haf an orgasm!! NOW!
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08-09-2006 12:49
From: Lewis Nerd
So save it for real life, because avatars aren't sexual, they're just pixels with no capability for feelings.

Why does 'adult' always have to equate 'sex'?

Lewis



*sighs* once again you are suggesting that everyone should feel exactly as you do. there is no point to conversing with you...

this is why i usually avoid serious forum posting.
VolatileWhimsy Bu
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08-09-2006 12:51
From: Cindy Claveau
You VILL haf an orgasm!! NOW!


rofl
Fade Languish
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08-09-2006 12:53
From: Lewis Nerd
So save it for real life, because avatars aren't sexual, they're just pixels with no capability for feelings.


Lewis, avatars aren't bots. They're operated by people, and people have feelings. If I'm talking on the telephone, is the conversation less real than in person? That's how I view SL, as another communication device.
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08-09-2006 12:54
From: Fade Languish
Lewis, avatars aren't bots. They're operated by people, and people have feelings. If I'm talking on the telephone, is the conversation less real than in person? That's how I view SL, as another communication device.



exactly!
Circe Timtam
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08-09-2006 12:56
From: Fade Languish
Lewis, avatars aren't bots. They're operated by people, and people have feelings. If I'm talking on the telephone, is the conversation less real than in person? That's how I view SL, as another communication device.



but Fadey, he feels NOTHING therefore so should all of us!!! come on! it's SL by his emotionless rules. :)
VolatileWhimsy Bu
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08-09-2006 12:57
From: Circe Timtam
but Fadey, he feels NOTHING therefore so should all of us!!! come on! it's SL by his emotionless rules. :)



no he Lewis does, and i bet he feels that no one is actually listening to what he is saying.. and the people that are arguing with him are feeling the exact same way... The problem is neither will just let it go :(
Maeve Morgan
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08-09-2006 13:01
Why do I always feel that trying to have a conversation about differences with certain posters is akin to beating your head on a brick wall?
VolatileWhimsy Bu
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08-09-2006 13:02
From: Maeve Morgan
Why do I always feel that trying to have a conversation about differences with certain posters is akin to beating your head on a brick wall?


because you are knowingly wasting your time...
Tatiana Sims
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08-09-2006 13:02
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis Nerd
So save it for real life, because avatars aren't sexual, they're just pixels with no capability for feelings

Lewis......as much as I like you, (you've been extremely nice to me since I have been here, and I thank you for that) YOU have totally hurt my feelings!!!! I for one think my Avie is pretty darn sexy!!! :D
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08-09-2006 13:03
From: Maeve Morgan
Why do I always feel that trying to have a conversation about differences with certain posters is akin to beating your head on a brick wall?


Because it is.
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Toni Bentham
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08-09-2006 13:03
From: Mari Cordeaux
However, there are some limits to being opening minded... I would never condone cybering with children for example... some things are just too bloody low life and destructive to close my eyes to.


Only tolerating things that don't cross a certain imaginary line of offensiveness is not being open-minded. Sorry. Being open-minded means tolerating even those things you find offensive.

You would think, if you find them offensive, you would want to close your eyes to them. After all, then you wouldn't be able to see them. Why is it that people seem to seek out those things they find offensive, to prove they actually exist so they can complain? It's beyond me.
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08-09-2006 13:05
From: Gabe Lippmann
Because it is.


I see... *wanders off to find advil and Dr Pepper*
VolatileWhimsy Bu
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08-09-2006 13:06
From: someone
Originally Posted by Mari Cordeaux
However, there are some limits to being opening minded... I would never condone cybering with children for example... some things are just too bloody low life and destructive to close my eyes to.

From: Toni Bentham
Only tolerating things that don't cross a certain imaginary line of offensiveness is not being open-minded. Sorry. Being open-minded means tolerating even those things you find offensive.

You would think, if you find them offensive, you would want to close your eyes to them. After all, then you wouldn't be able to see them. Why is it that people seem to seek out those things they find offensive, to prove they actually exist so they can complain? It's beyond me.



Wait, I am completely confused here, please let me reiterate what you said back to you and you can correct me if I am wrong :)
You feel that when someone is forcing themself on someone incapable of making an informed decision should be tolerated and we should have an open mind on this?
You are mistaking what the message is here.. People are saying BETWEEN TWO CONSENTING ADULTS YOU DOLT!

Please, please, please, please correct me here Toni..
Savonah Madonna
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08-09-2006 13:09
From: Lewis Nerd
But you are telling me to lower my standards to yours by tolerating them.

Lewis


Who are you to sit there and judge whose standards or morals are lower than another persons? Who appointed you judge of such things?
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Toni Bentham
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08-09-2006 13:17
From: VolatileWhimsy Bu
Wait, I am completely confused here, please let me reiterate what you said back to you and you can correct me if I am wrong :)
You feel that when someone is forcing themself on someone incapable of making an informed decision should be tolerated and we should have an open mind on this?
You are mistaking what the message is here.. People are saying BETWEEN TWO CONSENTING ADULTS YOU DOLT!

Please, please, please, please correct me here Toni..


Where did I use the word forcing? How did forcing anyone to do anything enter into this discussion? I am saying that being intolerant is intolerant. Just because you have a wider boundary of what you're intolerant of, doesn't make you not intolerant.

From: Savonah Madonna
Who are you to sit there and judge whose standards or morals are lower than another persons? Who appointed you judge of such things?


He did, Savonah. Generally anyone who mentions morals this much thinks theirs are the best. :rolleyes:
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08-09-2006 13:23
From: Circe Timtam
but Fadey, he feels NOTHING therefore so should all of us!!! come on! it's SL by his emotionless rules. :)


Hi Circe!

Actually, having spent time with Lewis, he very much does feel. He's quite passionate, but about different kinds of things. His work says a lot about his feelings for and observations of the real world, and he's very much trying to communicate that to others.

His statement, something like "there is pleasure in the mundane", reflects the dialogue he is trying to engage. All his creations are about experiences, the kind of everyday things people tend to overlook. I find him really quite fascinating.

Funnily enough, our vastly different opinions don't seem to matter in-world. If he says something I disagree with, I just say, "well you know I think something else", and we both accept that we hold different opinions.
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08-09-2006 13:23
From: Toni Bentham
Where did I use the word forcing? How did forcing anyone to do anything enter into this discussion? I am saying that being intolerant is intolerant. Just because you have a wider boundary of what you're intolerant of, doesn't make you not intolerant.



He did, Savonah. Generally anyone who mentions morals this much thinks theirs are the best. :rolleyes:


Ok, so you find it acceptable for an adult to coerce a child into sexual actions even if it is via a computer?

Let me explain something to you I admit I AM ONLY TOLERANT FOR THOSE CAPABLE OF MAKING THE DECISION.

Your right I will NOT tolerate someone taking advantage of a person unable to make an informed decision, you are a preadator, and are unable to be rehablitate.. I am all for them putting you in the ground so you can push up daisies.. now what do you think about those apples?

you do realize that you probably just put yourself on a watch list on sl at the very least..
heheh silly silly ppl.. tsk tsk tsk
Finning Widget
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08-09-2006 13:26
Lewis - you make my head hurt - because I don't know if you're posting /straight/ in response to what is obviously a /parody/ thread, or if you think Kendra's /sincere/ in the wish to "ban all prudes" and can't recognise /reductio ad absurdum/. You make my head hurt because you're taking the funny out of my "If we ban all prudes, who then will trail by example?" quip by /unambiguously fulfilling the stereotype./ ZOMG.

"Wrong"? ////Wrong////? I don't like being around prudish people because they have a tendency to try and leverage their notions of right and wrong on me! You get to tell me that what I do in SL is "wrong" when you A: Work for Linden Labs B: are an officer of the law or C: are my partner.

Humans are sexual creatures. SL is for humans. Sexual behaviour belongs in SL - excluding it excludes humans. In PG sims? no. Wantonly in Mature Sims? Sure, but exercising taste and judgement is a good thing so as to minimise accidentally offending people.

You have a right to create a refuge from things you find distasteful. You have a right to invite others to your refuge. You do /not/ have a right to demand that others stop doing whatever it is that you find distasteful in their /own/ refuges.
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08-09-2006 13:27
From: Fade Languish
Hi Circe!

Actually, having spent time with Lewis, he very much does feel. He's quite passionate, but about different kinds of things. His work says a lot about his feelings for and observations of the real world, and he's very much trying to communicate that to others.

His statement, something like "there is pleasure in the mundane", reflects the dialogue he is trying to engage. All his creations are about experiences, the kind of everyday things people tend to overlook. I find him really quite fascinating.

Funnily enough, our vastly different opinions don't seem to matter in-world. If he says something I disagree with, I just say, "well you know I think something else", and we both accept that we hold different opinions.



well that's very good to hear and gives me hope. however, his posts i have come across on here certainly don't reflect that so much...pity.
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