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Stroker Serpentine
Unadultercated
Join date: 8 Nov 2003
Posts: 202
07-24-2006 22:15
We have decided that we are all sick and tired of creating content to enhance a game that does not give us the protection of our intellectual property. Bugs, exploits and lack of enforcement is making it less and less attractive to create in Second Life.

I am sure you all know of someone...a friend..maybe even yourself who has been the victim of texture theft or prim mirroring or exploiting a bug, for the sole purpose of profiting from someone elses labor.

This has GOT TO END. Everything is held "server-side" by Linden Labs on their "Asset Server". Identifying original creators is simple. We DEMAND better tools and BETTER PERMISSIONS! We want enforcement of WARNINGS, BANS and ACCOUNT DELETIONS.
If there are no consequences for the actions of these scammers they will continue to thrive and flourish.

We intend to stage peaceful protests through shop/sim closings, sit downs and picketing.

We encourage all content providers to join our group "SELLERS GUILD". Look it up in Search/Groups..its free to join. We have started a grass roots collaboration of members already. ONE VOICE..ONE GOAL...protection of our textures/content/intellectual property.
And ENFORCEMENT by Linden Labs to ensure that it stays protected!

We intend to lobby Linden Labs with constructive suggestions and ideas of how to accomplish this goal. It will take the support of many to enforce consequences for violators. We dont want to flood the AR system...but we are tired of the seemingly "blind eye" turned toward these THIEVES.

JOIN the SL "SELLERS GUILD" now!!

We are constantly having to RESCRIPT everything we sell everytime LL breaks previous code. The IM's are torturous at best. We want to see some reciprocity when updates are done between working features and new ones.
Stroker Serpentine
Unadultercated
Join date: 8 Nov 2003
Posts: 202
07-24-2006 22:17
Lets hear from some of our members...
Veritas Kennedy
Super Senior Member
Join date: 31 Dec 2004
Posts: 400
07-24-2006 22:21
Im afraid the residents of SL have finaly gotten smarter, and decided to just stop responding to these "Linden Labs isnt doing... " threads because your efforts always end up futile in the end... Ahh such is life.
Stroker Serpentine
Unadultercated
Join date: 8 Nov 2003
Posts: 202
07-24-2006 22:26
From: Veritas Kennedy
Im afraid the residents of SL have finaly gotten smarter, and decided to just stop responding to these "Linden Labs isnt doing... " threads because your efforts always end up futile in the end... Ahh such is life.


Check out our membership list Veritas :-)
Banking Laws
Realty Serious
Join date: 14 Jun 2006
Posts: 602
07-24-2006 22:30
From: Stroker Serpentine
Check out our membership list Veritas :-)


The only one we see here so far is you.
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Baccara Rhodes
Social Doyenne
Join date: 10 Jul 2003
Posts: 627
Present and accounted for !
07-24-2006 22:33
Attendance monitor, you may include me on that list you seem to have started...
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DEPOZ
Depoz E, W, Celebrations & Specialties !
Define YOUR Space
We have it ALL for you...
RH Engel
Prim Tormentor
Join date: 19 Sep 2004
Posts: 38
07-24-2006 22:38
Present and accounted for!
Banking Laws
Realty Serious
Join date: 14 Jun 2006
Posts: 602
07-24-2006 22:39
Never heard of either of you and the op tried to censor someone providing a service.. noone to concern myself with here.
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"I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principle of spending money to be paid in posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."

- Thomas Jefferson, 3rd U.S. President
Sue Stonebender
Piano Craftsman
Join date: 7 Jan 2005
Posts: 219
07-24-2006 22:44
Checking in, and onside.
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Tami McCoy
Get Tamified ;)
Join date: 25 May 2004
Posts: 167
Present
07-24-2006 22:45
Hear hear! :)
Rebel Hope
Rebel Rebel
Join date: 29 Dec 2004
Posts: 502
07-24-2006 22:45
present......accounted for.
Psyke Phaeton
Psyke's Defense Systems
Join date: 12 Oct 2003
Posts: 197
07-24-2006 22:49
I am in :)

I want to add also that SL updates should not break all previous versions of a script.
If we sell something that works we dont want 1000s of copies that suddenly don't work and need replacements. Its too much time and effort!
Case Curry
Registered User
Join date: 10 Jun 2006
Posts: 2
I'm in
07-24-2006 22:50
I don't sell anything, I'm more of a GNU guy. Capitalism just keeps secrets and is unconcerned with what is good for society as a whole. But, I feel that an artist that toils over something, especially if it is exceptional, is due compensation of some form and theft of their work is criminal. Just because you can do it doesn't mean you should. There are holes in SL that allow this to happen and can be plugged.

Linden Labs, I ask you to look more seriously at issues of theft for profit. Please find a cure.
Mash Mandala
http://depoz.wordpress.co
Join date: 19 Jan 2004
Posts: 211
07-24-2006 22:55
Present and totally unaccountable!
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Tyra Takakura
Registered User
Join date: 25 May 2006
Posts: 1
I'm in Totally
07-24-2006 22:56
I do agree that Linden Labs needs to give sellers a better security. People are here to have fun yes, but there are others who are making some good money with their creations. They should be compensated for all their hard work and protected.
I totally agree with the idea that the stealers should be punished. They should not be rewarded in SL.
I bump this thread as it is correct. SL has ways to take care of this, they should then.
Jade Jensen
Giftedly Outspoken
Join date: 6 May 2004
Posts: 1,049
07-24-2006 22:57
I'm here...ready to rock! :D
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Melandra Brown
Registered User
Join date: 22 May 2006
Posts: 9
Agreed
07-24-2006 23:00
As a new person in Second Life I worry that someone can just come along and take my time and effort. This is not right and if there is a way to stop it... and from our discussion I believe there is; it should be the highest priority for Linden.

We create their content. Without us... there would be no Second Life.
Shiryu Musashi
Veteran Designer
Join date: 19 Nov 2004
Posts: 1,045
07-24-2006 23:04
*sharpens the edge of his katana, ready to silently terminate the texture thieves....*
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Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
Join date: 17 May 2003
Posts: 8,616
07-24-2006 23:05
* makes katana poses for Shiryu *
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Banking Laws
Realty Serious
Join date: 14 Jun 2006
Posts: 602
07-24-2006 23:06
referring to theft..you target any IP theft in sl right?
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"I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principle of spending money to be paid in posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."

- Thomas Jefferson, 3rd U.S. President
Obscuro Valkyrie
SL's Resident Vampyre
Join date: 22 Oct 2003
Posts: 72
07-24-2006 23:08
Bro I'm with you
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Missbehavin neva
Registered User
Join date: 11 Oct 2004
Posts: 21
~~checking In~~
07-24-2006 23:10
From: Stroker Serpentine
We have decided that we are all sick and tired of creating content to enhance a game that does not give us the protection of our intellectual property. Bugs, exploits and lack of enforcement is making it less and less attractive to create in Second Life.

I am sure you all know of someone...a friend..maybe even yourself who has been the victim of texture theft or prim mirroring or exploiting a bug, for the sole purpose of profiting from someone elses labor.

This has GOT TO END. Everything is held "server-side" by Linden Labs on their "Asset Server". Identifying original creators is simple. We DEMAND better tools and BETTER PERMISSIONS! We want enforcement of WARNINGS, BANS and ACCOUNT DELETIONS.
If there are no consequences for the actions of these scammers they will continue to thrive and flourish.

We intend to stage peaceful protests through shop/sim closings, sit downs and picketing.

We encourage all content providers to join our group "SELLERS GUILD". Look it up in Search/Groups..its free to join. We have started a grass roots collaboration of members already. ONE VOICE..ONE GOAL...protection of our textures/content/intellectual property.
And ENFORCEMENT by Linden Labs to ensure that it stays protected!

We intend to lobby Linden Labs with constructive suggestions and ideas of how to accomplish this goal. It will take the support of many to enforce consequences for violators. We dont want to flood the AR system...but we are tired of the seemingly "blind eye" turned toward these THIEVES.

JOIN the SL "SELLERS GUILD" now!!


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MISSB HERE CHECKING IN BEFORE BED!

HIGH 5..WELL SAID STROKER..WE PAY ALOTOF MONEY TO PLAY HERE.......NEED BETTER PROTECTION! WE NEED THE LINDENS TO HEAR US OUT AND DO SOMETHING.

~~GOOD NIGHT~~ :)
PetGirl Bergman
Fellow Creature:-)
Join date: 16 Feb 2005
Posts: 2,414
07-24-2006 23:12
OK... EXAKT count me in too!

/Tina
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Banking Laws
Realty Serious
Join date: 14 Jun 2006
Posts: 602
07-24-2006 23:12
From: Missbehavin neva
MISS B HERE CHECKING IN BEFORE BED! HIGH 5..WELL SAID..WE PAY ALOTOF MONEY TO PLAY HERE.......NEED BETTER PROTECTION! WE NEED THE LINDENS TO HEAR US OUT AND DO SOMETHING. ~~GOOD NIGHT~~


What about 'playbunny' and the dark dharma avs of copyrighted characters.. or does IP theft not bother you if its not yours?
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"I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principle of spending money to be paid in posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."

- Thomas Jefferson, 3rd U.S. President
Jade Opel
Wildfire
Join date: 27 Aug 2004
Posts: 83
07-24-2006 23:15
Count me in too!
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