Child girl AV, sex with Adult male AV? is this right???
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Marcuw Schnook
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08-09-2006 10:56
From: Joshua Nightshade Be that as it may, stupid people are stupid people and they spring up like mushrooms all over. They're not confined to one city or state.  don't approach everyone with preconceived decisions before you give them a shot; that's akin to racism.  I know... That's why I said "a lot" and "not all" I keep an open mind as stated before, but when some enter that stupidity mode they're gone in my book. I've no time nor do I feel the need to discuss with the stupid people if they choose to act like stupid people. |
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Mondo Kongo
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08-09-2006 10:57
From: Marcuw Schnook I'm not a USA citizin, thank god for that.
But I'm "liberal" as in open to other peoples needs and their preferences and allowing them to have those without feeling the need myself to get involved.
To each their own. If people like ageplay, it's their thing, then they should go for it. It's not my style. Yep, Thank god for that. I assume you are saying the US would be worse off if you were? |
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Lina Pussycat
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08-09-2006 10:58
From: Joshua Nightshade Be that as it may, stupid people are stupid people and they spring up like mushrooms all over. They're not confined to one city or state. don't approach everyone with preconceived decisions before you give them a shot; that's akin to racism. Thats true people are going to act a certain way no matter where they are from i think it has more to do with the moral's of u.s citizens being closed minded. Your taught these morals from the time your a little kid and they become part of who you are. Growing up in a different country i understand alot more where people are coming from and the different interests people have. I dont close them out because i morally object i respect their rights to do so. I for one am a lesbian in SL and in r/l and yet if i found someone i was deeply in love with that was a woman i could not marry her because people morally object. Its actually quite funny to compare the U.S and the U.K because the u.k seem to understand the constitution better then our own government and our government made it. |
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Marcuw Schnook
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08-09-2006 10:59
From: Damien Skolem Since when does being open minded mean accepting everything?
Age play is just a new word to cover up a pre-existing crime. Well as I just said to some other fellow in here who's quite reasonable, you are one of those stupids...... only reasoning/discussion for the sake of discussion. That's called trolling. Last word before I add you to my ignorance list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ageplayageplay has been there probably longer then you have been on this earth. |
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Joshua Nightshade
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08-09-2006 10:59
From: Damien Skolem Since when does being open minded mean accepting everything?
Age play is just a new word to cover up a pre-existing crime. It's not a crime. Digital imagery of cartoon sexual acts is not considered illegal: "Protection of Children Against Sexual Exploitation Act of 1977", 18 USC 2252, definition (a)(1): 1) ... knowingly transports or ships in interstate or foreign commerce by any means including by computer or mails, any visual depiction, if - (A) the producing of such visual depiction involves the use of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; and (B) such visual depiction is of such conduct. ... a fictitious, animated minor is NOT covered. the conduct of a real minor is tantamount to child pornography. two adults, one of whom is pretending to be a child, is not covered as this law. look something up, just because YOU feel it's illegal doesn't make it a crime.
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08-09-2006 10:59
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08-09-2006 11:00
From: Damien Skolem Out of curiousity....is everyone in this thread defending "ageplay" liberal? I expect you'll find that most opposing you and your ilk are not even defending age play per se, but the right of adults to exercise the power of their imagination without the thought police coming after them. You're clearly incapable of tolerating opinions that differ from your own and have demonstrated bigotry of the worst kind. How long til you set your sights on another sector of society you deem dangerous ? Homosexuals, artists, "liberals" ? |
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Ordinal Malaprop
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08-09-2006 11:01
/139/14/128265/1.html#post1215252so that's that question answered for the millionth timethough doubtless other illiterate saviours of the world will continue to post the same question
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Lina Pussycat
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08-09-2006 11:01
From: Damien Skolem Since when does being open minded mean accepting everything?
Age play is just a new word to cover up a pre-existing crime. Age play has nothing to do with pedophelia you cant get that thru your head. And being open minded doesnt mean accepting everything but you should at least respect people's rights to that. Age play has nothing at all to do with child pornography nor child abuse or pedophelia. It is based off a real life culture that you happen to know jack about and prove time and time again. You can keep posting that its to cover up a pre-existing crime but it just proves how little on the subject you actually know. |
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Marcuw Schnook
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08-09-2006 11:01
From: Mondo Kongo Yep, Thank god for that. I assume you are saying the US would be worse off if you were? No, I'd be...  My experience with some USA is not something to write home about (scrupulous companies, ignorant/stupid/closed minded; the ocasional exceptions ofcourse)... |
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08-09-2006 11:04
You sick little AIDS causing monkeys!!! Not everything is about sex. Sure in RL babies come from sex..aka..the stork for all you who should be on the teen grid. But in SL babies come for ppl who have really small shapes. So that means in SL babies come from vendors. So in SL sex really has no real value as a tool for procreation which means that I just said a bunch of words...woot vote 5!!!
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Marcuw Schnook
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08-09-2006 11:04
From: Lina Pussycat Josh being from the us myself and one of the people that doesnt fit the mold i get what marcuw is saying. We say we are such an open people yet there are people trying to ban gay marriage simply because they view it as wrong. Where as in the U.K for instance gay marriage is legal. Also we are allowed to own guns in the u.s that is true in the u.k they dont allow guns even the police dont carry them unless a unit such as S.W.A.T is needed. I find it appaling how close minded alot of americans are and alot parade their moral's as being the only way to live. Thats just not how things work. We close our borders to people, start checking arabs and people of middle eastern descent more heavily in air ports, have a massive onslaught of people in the KKK and racists in general and yet we try to state ourselves as being this open accepting country. I just dont buy it anymore. I was born in japan, I live in the U.K for over a year, and i've live in the u.s for about 5-6 years now and it is pretty close minded compared to alot of the other places in the world i have been.
Age-play is not wrong, child pornography is, but what is happening in SL is Age play and not child pornography and some people need to open their minds up a little bit to actually get that point. They need to stop with their moral crusade and actually look at the full picture and realize what is actually going on and take into an account what age play actually is before they start ranting on about something they dont know a thing about. TY Lina... For supporting/describing my view even better then I could. Even tho you're an american, you have just earned a place on my friends list |
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Damien Skolem
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08-09-2006 11:05
From: Marcuw Schnook TY Lina... For supporting/describing my view even better then I could. Even tho you're an american, you have just earned a place on my friends list and people think Americans come across as arrogant. |
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Burnman Bedlam
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08-09-2006 11:07
No, actually, it does not. The fact that LL doesn't want to acknowledge the law is only evident that this topic needs to be addressed differently.
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Lorelei Patel
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08-09-2006 11:08
From: Marcuw Schnook TY Lina... For supporting/describing my view even better then I could. Even tho you're an american, you have just earned a place on my friends list I guess it's hard for us Americans to be as open-minded as you.  
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Damien Skolem
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08-09-2006 11:09
From: Joshua Nightshade It's not a crime. Digital imagery of cartoon sexual acts is not considered illegal:
"Protection of Children Against Sexual Exploitation Act of 1977", 18 USC
2252, definition (a)(1):
1) ... knowingly transports or ships in interstate or foreign commerce by
any means including by computer or mails, any visual depiction, if -
(A) the producing of such visual depiction involves the use of a minor
engaging in sexually explicit conduct; and
(B) such visual depiction is of such conduct. ...
a fictitious, animated minor is NOT covered. the conduct of a real minor is tantamount to child pornography. two adults, one of whom is pretending to be a child, is not covered as this law.
look something up, just because YOU feel it's illegal doesn't make it a crime. You need an update?? Prohibits: (1) making a visual depiction that is a digital image, computer image, or computer-generated image of, or that is indistinguishable from an image of, a minor engaging in specified sexually explicit conduct; (2) knowingly advertising, promoting, presenting, distributing, or soliciting through the mails or in commerce, including by computer, any material that is or contains an obscene visual depiction of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct or a visual depiction of an actual minor engaging in such conduct; (3) knowingly distributing, offering, sending, or providing to a minor any such visual depiction using the mails or commerce, including by computer, for purposes of inducing or persuading a minor to participate in an illegal act; and (4) knowingly producing, distributing, receiving, or possessing with intent to distribute a visual depiction of any kind, including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture, or painting, that, under specified circumstances, depicts a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct and is obscene, or depicts an image that is or appears to be of a minor engaging in such conduct and such depiction lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value. |
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Kasi Tandino
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08-09-2006 11:11
From: Lina Pussycat Age play has nothing to do with pedophelia you cant get that thru your head. And being open minded doesnt mean accepting everything but you should at least respect people's rights to that. Age play has nothing at all to do with child pornography nor child abuse or pedophelia. It is based off a real life culture that you happen to know jack about and prove time and time again. You can keep posting that its to cover up a pre-existing crime but it just proves how little on the subject you actually know. I am open minded to many many things, when it is based on adults...being a child, in a childs body while having sex with adult figures is a desire that is best left in your head or better yet, I'd probably kill myself if I started daydreaming about doing that sweet little 9 year old in the frilly skirt. Basically, you will no more make me see your point of view in justifying this "desire" (for lack of a better word) than I will make you see my views on it. Aren't you getting as tired of trying to convince us that sex with children look alikes is healthy as we are of trying to tell you that we find it morally disgusting? Oh and before you tell me about how this is not SEX, just roleplay...how many of these people just roleplaying being a 10 year old stick to PG zones? I don't want a 10 year old sitting in the bar with me while I'm drinking booze and smoking cigs anymore than I want a 10 year old avi in the strip club with half her clothes off shouting "spank me daddy". So, if these are really your children who you love as a parent would..then stop dressing them in thongs and taking them to strip clubs and making a public spectacle of how you like children. If you flaunt it, expect people to be disgusted. Again..its all in the opinion and as far as I'm concerned this back and forth "you're wrong..no YOU'RE close minded" is doing is making us hear our OWN arguements over and over. I know I stopped reading the reasoning why its right long ago and started skipping posts from most of the "defenders". I must say tho, I'm sorry that guy who wants to rape little girls is posting on the defense of the accused "sickos"..it kinda makes the defense look bad. |
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Marcuw Schnook
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08-09-2006 11:12
From: Lorelei Patel I guess it's hard for us Americans to be as open-minded as you. Even more so, when they do not see the humor in a remark like that (have missed some of the previous posts...)  Kidding aside, as said, there are plenty in this thread who are open minded too... just the few ignorant again...  |
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Damien Skolem
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08-09-2006 11:14
From: Marcuw Schnook Even more so, when they do not see the humor in a remark like that (have missed some of the previous posts...) Kidding aside, as said, there are plenty in this thread who are open minded too... just the few ignorant again... Let's test how open minded you are. Up for the challenge? |
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Marcuw Schnook
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08-09-2006 11:14
From: Kasi Tandino I am open minded to many many things, when it is based on adults...being a child, in a childs body while having sex with adult figures is a desire that is best left in your head or better yet, I'd probably kill myself if I started daydreaming about doing that sweet little 9 year old in the frilly skirt.
Basically, you will no more make me see your point of view in justifying this "desire" (for lack of a better word) than I will make you see my views on it.
Aren't you getting as tired of trying to convince us that sex with children look alikes is healthy as we are of trying to tell you that we find it morally disgusting? Oh and before you tell me about how this is not SEX, just roleplay...how many of these people just roleplaying being a 10 year old stick to PG zones? I don't want a 10 year old sitting in the bar with me while I'm drinking booze and smoking cigs anymore than I want a 10 year old avi in the strip club with half her clothes off shouting "spank me daddy". So, if these are really your children who you love as a parent would..then stop dressing them in thongs and taking them to strip clubs and making a public spectacle of how you like children. If you flaunt it, expect people to be disgusted.
Again..its all in the opinion and as far as I'm concerned this back and forth "you're wrong..no YOU'RE close minded" is doing is making us hear our OWN arguements over and over. I know I stopped reading the reasoning why its right long ago and started skipping posts from most of the "defenders". I must say tho, I'm sorry that guy who wants to rape little girls is posting on the defense of the accused "sickos"..it kinda makes the defense look bad. I see your point, but you miss one big important issue here You will never see an AGE RP as a child avy sitting in a bar drinking booze.... It would not fit the AGE RP... You might see a kid coming in, held by his/her parent; the parent needing a drink.... See the difference? If you see a child av alone in a bar drinking booze... well that woulnt' be an AGE RP-er |
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Mondo Kongo
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08-09-2006 11:15
From: Marcuw Schnook No, I'd be... My experience with some USA is not something to write home about (scrupulous companies, ignorant/stupid/closed minded; the ocasional exceptions ofcourse)... I hope your considering who you are associating with that are "Americans". Are you making the assupmtion that the kid from Kansas, who just 'owned' you in a shoot'em up game is a typical American? Or people like myself who have lived abroad for years defending the US, and the allies who rely on that presense(typo)? I lived in Germany for years, all the while the Majority of Germans thinking I was from Holland because of my accent. I am maybe an acception to the definition of "American"? A unique individual in a country full of over paranoid asses. Please be careful when slandering something you might know very little about. (see my previous apology in a previous post in this thread.) (Everybody hates Americans until they find themselves looking down the barrel of an aggressor or when their failed government collapses or everyone is starving.) God I wish the grid would come up! |
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08-09-2006 11:16
From: Damien Skolem You need an update??
Prohibits: (1) making a visual depiction that is a digital image, computer image, or computer-generated image of, or that is indistinguishable from an image of, a minor engaging in specified sexually explicit conduct; (2) knowingly advertising, promoting, presenting, distributing, or soliciting through the mails or in commerce, including by computer, any material that is or contains an obscene visual depiction of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct or a visual depiction of an actual minor engaging in such conduct; (3) knowingly distributing, offering, sending, or providing to a minor any such visual depiction using the mails or commerce, including by computer, for purposes of inducing or persuading a minor to participate in an illegal act; and (4) knowingly producing, distributing, receiving, or possessing with intent to distribute a visual depiction of any kind, including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture, or painting, that, under specified circumstances, depicts a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct and is obscene, or depicts an image that is or appears to be of a minor engaging in such conduct and such depiction lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value. Again, you think that SL Av Sex is *indistinguishable* from the real thing? You *really* need help then.
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Phedre Aquitaine
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08-09-2006 11:18
From: Katlin Aridian Then who were you addressing? Seemed to me as well that you were speaking of Kendra. Could you quote the person you were speaking of? I believe he was speaking of me, Katlin. Obviously, I am not allowed to differ from what his view of what a victim should be; I am to be shocked and horrified by something that I don't feel falls under the category of molestation at all. I love it when someone is accused of not being enough of a victim because they're not sufficiently traumatised for the accuser; it happens a lot, mostly because the accuser is someone who cannot conceive of allowing people their different reactions. A friend had it happen to her when she was raped - she handled it more calmly than the police would like, gave them full accounts of what had happened, who did it, and passed a rape kit test. When it was over the police refused to press charges because she "was not acting like a victim". It's not even sexism, it's happened to men too. It's just a disgusting idiocy. I've had twenty years to heal from the molestation; I find paedophiles abhorrent beyond what you can probably imagine. I can also tell the difference between age play and paedophilia, which is probably why you are so pissed off at the fact that I am not a shrinking, moaning victim. Damien, your problems with people who are competent are yours, not mine. If you want to accuse me of lying about being molested, that's fine. But have the fucking balls to do so, by name. I've gone through worse shit than some petty forum troll trying to silence me for not cringing beneath the lash of his definition of what a victim "should be". For all your prating about being "FOR THE CHILDREN", you're pretty fucking abusive.
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08-09-2006 11:19
From: Burnman Bedlam No, actually, it does not.
The fact that LL doesn't want to acknowledge the law is only evident that this topic needs to be addressed differently. cue question number 1,000,001 It is not illegal. |
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08-09-2006 11:19
All this and my stewie av still needs to be seen with Phedres schoolgirl.
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