The Worst Thing I Have Ever Seen Ll Do.

The fact that self-awareness is such an important characteristic of human beings is not really at all obvious until we come across someone who lacks it.

I agree. At least here you get a sense that somehow your post matters (even a little bit). Putting a comment on the blog requires moderation, so it's always going to be limited.

The way things are going, I refuse to put any more real money, time or investment into SL. I really wanted to get an Island of my own. The whole support issue and "Linden Labs can do whateve they want" thing makes me say no way.

I hope for the day when a truely open source application with the emphasis on user creation comes to the internet. No politics, money worries or all the rubbish that goes on. Just download the program and play. Want your own server? Rent one from a 3rd party company.

I am in the same position. At the moment, my gameplay does not rely on other people too much, in the way that many do basing an income and tier fees on customers.

I would love more land, I would love an island, but until things settle down and Linden Lab learn to be more communicative and transparent - and honest - I'm not going to upgrade. Hopefully I'll be able to live off my stipend without having to buy anything on Lindex either.

Lewis

Linden Labs is a PRIVATE company.

Unless any of you own shares in it, you dont really have a leg to stand on kids.

We are all shareholders in SL's future, there are more important things in its success than financial input.

Everyone who creates content and provides something for the enjoyment of other players has a vested interest in this game's success. It's just a pity that Linden Lab don't seem to realise that.

Lewis

roffle.

No, really thats so wrong. Are you socialist?

Money keeps the game running, money makes it so you can all play in it. Ok, you try running a large server thingy with lots of people on it. See how long it lasts without money, oh wait you wouldnt even be able to buy the kit?

Money makes the world go round, the virtual and the real.

Let me guess... another RBD trolling alt?

I didn't say money is not important - what you evidently missed is that without anything here to do, who's going to stay?

Imagine a new player logging in, finding nothing but afk campers and a deserted landscape with the odd forgotten plywood cube and crashed vehicle dotted around the ground. What good reason is there for them to continue playing, what is there to encourage them and inspire them?

That's where we, those who pay to play, come in. We build this world, and do Linden Lab's work for them.

Hence we have as much a value - if not more - as some anonymous shareholder who's only throwing money in with the hope of making a profit.

After all, isnt VC money supposed to go towards development costs, rather than daily running - after all, that's what we pay our tier and premium fees for.

Lewis

Hence a company with sense of self-preservation generally tries to avoid creating impression they don't give a damn about opinion of existing customers, as it can make potential customers and consequently the shareholders wary. Being private owned doesn't have anything to do with that, or if anything makes them more prone to care about how their actions make them look...

so the whole "they're PRIVATE owned they can do whatever they like" thing is naive, at best.

Oh no sweetheart im not an alt, I just dont care what people behind screens think of me or my opinions.

Anyway, isnt most of the land around the welcome area like that anyway? Protected boring flat land?

Perhaps. But there's a lot of good stuff further out if people take the time to look for it, hidden amongst the camping chair venues, *.ingo lagfests and characterless boxy malls.

Lewis

Well exactly, you get this somehow underhanded feeling with LL right now. I know, when dealing with Lindens they mostly come across as honest, good, decent people. It's the people making policy and calling the shots that are at the root of all this.





Yeah Lewis got one word wrong, we aren't shareholderes in SL's future, we are stakeholders. Ok, you try running a large server thingy with unhappy customers. See how long the financial input lasts then.

It works both ways, LL needs to have a balance. Right now I don't personaly feel making an investment in this platform/game, is a good choice for me, because of how I see the company that runs and owns it all. Others obviously disagree and that's fine too.

The more people that feel this way, the less content SL can provide because people wont make it. The less long term interest it will generate. Thus the less money they will make (are they even making a profit yet?). I don't think right now that LL is any danger of really messing things up yet - it's just they could be a whole lot better.

With reference to the OP and the thread, what this means is, LL are saying to some people, "We don't want you comming here saying we are doing something wrong". By shutting down the forums, they are saying, "We don't want you communicating with us in any non-constrained way". Instead we can use their blog, which is a joke for mass communication. And we have the promise of future forms of communcation, which based on LL's previous promises, count's for nothing.

So Samia Perun, this obviously makes some people feel somewhat unsure about LL's future commitment towards its stakeholders and customer care. For some, this will mean less or no investment. This is bad for LL, and for us.

But they'd certainly want to hear from a lick... errr, a friendly person like yourself? If LL is interested in promoting a diverse, viable, and creative online community, they don't get to make that choice.

Perhaps you could explain what you mean by this? Are you suggesting that, unless I own stock in a company, that as a customer, I have no right to complain about how they conduct their business and support their customers? What does being a private company have to do with the topic we are discussing?

Most people have good and bad aspects to their personality. Best light a few candles and hope like hell that you are outlived by those who are more familiar with the good side instead of the asshole.

Isn't that right, Enabran?

You're just the person to sound the warning call against that danger, Selador.

Do tell us, if you had the opportunity to go back and do it all over, how you would have prevented that ugly fate from befalling your life.

Nothin'. LL owns the stuff; the bits and pieces and hardware and all. The essence of SL is a composite of all who partake in it and that cannot be owned at all.

/me winks conspiratorially at Margaret

There are lots of things that I would change. My life is far from perfect.

However, the comment wasn't about me. If you wish to ignore it, that is your prerogative.

Well, who am I to argue if the voice of embittered experience won't share his story.

In any case, you can't expect me to ponder your remark with any seriousness after you've repeated it for the 18th time. Originality and creativity go a long way, dear Selador!

Funny you say that. I've often wondered what in your brief past made you so embittered, Enabran? Or maybe cynical, or just . . . not too fond of people. But something. What caused that, to make you the way you are?

coco

If you're going to name call, Crissaegrim - do it, don't do some half-baked attempt. I'm a big boy, so I can take a little jab and am not of the AR-trigger-finger sort.

For the record, it was a question of the tongue-in-cheek sort. Coco, I'm sure got it, but clearly it escaped some folks.

LL can do whatever they want, such as seletively communicating with residents. Should they? No. Do they? I have no idea.

Suicidegirls.com

They show everything but "the good stuff". It's enough to drive a boy mad.

Update: This is odd. I looked earlier and saw that my post about not believing my post had been removed and saying that I would report it to LL has been put back.

I waited a while to see if any of the others would reappear, but they haven't.

Not sure what to make of that. Especially since my report to LL was removed anyway. Some kind of a challenge maybe? It will continue to look like that, unless some of the other poofed posts are put back as well.

coco

I generally love people.

I just despise stupidity, hypocrisy and willful ignorance. Given the abundance of all three here on the forums, I cannot blame you for your inaccurate perception of my outlook and personality.