How often do you see yourself using v-chat? A more detailed Poll
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Najmah Handayani
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06-21-2007 16:02
From: SqueezeOne Pow I don't remember saying it means 'nothing'. Polls on the forum just don't represent an accurate cross-section of SL residents in my opinion. And even if it does the numbers above point to the conclusion I came to. Go ahead and give it another read and see... Then why oh why start it? making a platform? wishing to add to the controversy? or simply a way to be noticed?
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Alex Fitzsimmons
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06-21-2007 16:09
From: SqueezeOne Pow The margin of error being this is by no means a random group of people visiting the forums. I think there is merit in Ceera's (and a few others') thought that the forum crowd is in general more biased towards typing vs. voice. In other words, you tried to show that you were right, only it turned out that you weren't, and now you're backpeddling madly, like a spindoctor in damage control mode. From: someone ...again with the childish insults. Let's try to keep this above teen grid levels a moment. Oh, no no no no. You don't get to be a jerk to people in other threads, repeatedly, and then suddenly spring back up to the moral high ground when and where it suits you. My behavior toward you is SOLELY a result of your earlier actions, for which you and you alone bear responsibility. And I haven't seen you apologize to anyone, even ONCE.
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Siouxsiesioux Banshee
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06-21-2007 16:13
From: Alex Fitzsimmons In other words, you tried to show that you were right, only it turned out that you weren't, and now you're backpeddling madly, like a spindoctor in damage control mode.
Oh, no no no no. You don't get to be a jerk to people in other threads, repeatedly, and then suddenly spring back up to the moral high ground when and where it suits you. My behavior toward you is SOLELY a result of your earlier actions, for which you and you alone bear responsibility. And I haven't seen you apologize to anyone, even ONCE. What did he say earlier? (Sorry, I'm just lurking)
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SqueezeOne Pow
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06-21-2007 16:15
From: Alex Fitzsimmons In other words, you tried to show that you were right, only it turned out that you weren't, and now you're backpeddling madly, like a spindoctor in damage control mode. Once again you missed the point, but I really don't think there's anything I can do to change your mind as it has already been made up and closed. That's really great for debate. From: Alex Fitzsimmons Oh, no no no no. You don't get to be a jerk to people in other threads, repeatedly, and then suddenly spring back up to the moral high ground when and where it suits you.
Why not? Everyone else seems to get to on these forums?  For real, though, why do you bother if I'm such a bad person? I don't let you get to me and you're being much more negative than I've ever been! From: Alex Fitzsimmons My behavior toward you is SOLELY a result of your earlier actions, for which you and you alone bear responsibility.
Actually, it's your grudge so it's your responsibility. It's okay. We'll get through this together! From: Alex Fitzsimmons And I haven't seen you apologize to anyone, even ONCE.
Ok. Alex, I'm sorry you don't like me. I'll try to measure up to your standards a little better. But seriously...anyone have anything to actually add to the conversation? It was going well for a second, there!
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06-21-2007 16:18
From: Najmah Handayani Then why oh why start it? making a platform? wishing to add to the controversy? or simply a way to be noticed? Well I was trying to prove some points I had using the status quo's own logic and statistics and if you were actually interested in seeing another point of view you would have seen that...regardless of if you agreed. Why did you post the above? Trying to add to the controversy or looking to get noticed yourself?
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Ciaran Laval
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06-21-2007 16:19
Well I won't say never but I can't see it being as high as 10% so I haven't voted at all on this one. I hardly use voice online now, I can't see myself becoimg all excited about it in SL.
I just don't see voice as being a big communication tool in this environment, how many people here are using skype or such like to communicate by voice whilst in SL?
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Alex Fitzsimmons
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06-21-2007 16:24
From: Siouxsiesioux Banshee What did he say earlier? (Sorry, I'm just lurking) Look at this thread if you care to know: /327/7c/191788/2.htmlHe first joined the conversation on Page 4 (to which that is a direct link) with a sarcastic remark aimed at basically everyone who's against voice. His behavior kind of continues downhill from there as the thread progresses. Now suddenly he's trying to prop himself up on the moral high ground and make me out to be awful and mean. 
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06-21-2007 16:25
I can hardly imagine myself in the future, much less in the future and with percentages. If I could do that.. maybe my life wasn't so chaotic  I don't even know how much % I use for past actions. I'm very bad with math.
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SqueezeOne Pow
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06-21-2007 16:29
From: Alex Fitzsimmons Look at this thread if you care to know: /327/7c/191788/2.htmlHe first joined the conversation on Page 4 (to which that is a direct link) with a sarcastic remark aimed at basically everyone who's against voice. His behavior kind of continues downhill from there as the thread progresses. Now suddenly he's trying to prop himself up on the moral high ground and make me out to be awful and mean.  That's the funny thing about a sense of humor...everyone thinks they have one but not everyone really has one! You take yourself waaay too seriously which is probably why you don't like me. Most people with that problem end up not liking me. Despite Alex's and a few others' outbursts I'm pretty happy with the results of this poll and the thread overall. It's good to see reasons for not using voice that don't include stereotyping others and/or making yourself out to be superior for making your choice!
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Siouxsiesioux Banshee
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06-21-2007 16:35
But seriously...anyone have anything to actually add to the conversation? It was going well for a second, there![/QUOTE]
I love you. You're not a bad person. (Positive energy)
I think people see what they want and come to their own conclusions based on that. I understand what you're saying and where you're going with this topic. But, do you find people's responses all that surprising? Of course they're going to be resisting anything regarding v-chat. All the posts I've ever seen on the forums about it have been from the same folks who are against it.
Seriously, the forums are a waste of time. It's fun to read every now and then, but the generally consensus is that people on the forums are nuts. Look on the bright side: You don't have to talk to any of these folks on v-chat.
BTW: Remember last night when I was sitting on the pose ball next to Chaz? I'm pregnant.
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SqueezeOne Pow
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I think this one was to me, guys...
06-21-2007 16:38
From: Siouxsiesioux Banshee But seriously...anyone have anything to actually add to the conversation? It was going well for a second, there!"
I love you. You're not a bad person. (Positive energy)
I think people see what they want and come to their own conclusions based on that. I understand what you're saying and where you're going with this topic. But, do you find people's responses all that surprising? Of course they're going to be resisting anything regarding v-chat. All the posts I've ever seen on the forums about it have been from the same folks who are against it.
Seriously, the forums are a waste of time. It's fun to read every now and then, but the generally consensus is that people on the forums are nuts. Look on the bright side: You don't have to talk to any of these folks on v-chat.
BTW: Remember last night when I was sitting on the pose ball next to Chaz? I'm pregnant. hehehe that explains how his suit wasn't in matching blacks!
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Alex Fitzsimmons
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06-21-2007 16:40
From: SqueezeOne Pow Most people end up not liking me. Fixed. 
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Siouxsiesioux Banshee
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06-21-2007 16:41
From: SqueezeOne Pow hehehe that explains how his suit wasn't in matching blacks! Gross!
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SqueezeOne Pow
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06-21-2007 16:42
From: Alex Fitzsimmons Fixed.  I sure hope you are! 
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Cascadius Fizgig
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06-21-2007 16:44
Went with %10-%25, just because there will be some time when I will have to use it for something or other. But really there should have been a %1-%9 percent option.
Yay for voice. Glad that some people will like it; but I hate long conversations on the phone (view voice in the same light as a phone conversation), don't fancy talking to the computer and am usually on SL late at night. And because I'm most active late into the night the sounds mostly turned right down, plus I don’t like wearing headphones for extended periods. Not a strong combination of factors working in voices favour.
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Maggie McArdle
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06-21-2007 16:52
i picked never, as those whom know my voice, can talk to me on skype.
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Najmah Handayani
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06-21-2007 16:55
From: SqueezeOne Pow Well I was trying to prove some points I had using the status quo's own logic and statistics and if you were actually interested in seeing another point of view you would have seen that...regardless of if you agreed. Why did you post the above? Trying to add to the controversy or looking to get noticed yourself? Im trying hard to understand your motives.... and I assume, yes assume, you have none other than being noticed
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Brenda Connolly
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06-21-2007 16:56
From: SqueezeOne Pow That's the funny thing about a sense of humor...everyone thinks they have one but not everyone really has one!
You take yourself waaay too seriously which is probably why you don't like me. Most people with that problem end up not liking me.
Despite Alex's and a few others' outbursts I'm pretty happy with the results of this poll and the thread overall. It's good to see reasons for not using voice that don't include stereotyping others and/or making yourself out to be superior for making your choice! I have to add, based on past performance, Squeezer has conducted himself fairly well. You're still an ass though..... 
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SqueezeOne Pow
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06-21-2007 17:11
From: Najmah Handayani Im trying hard to understand your motives.... and I assume, yes assume, you have none other than being noticed You know what they say happens when you assume...only there will be no "me" for me! You may just want to sit this one out. I'll break it down one last time, though... a) I wasn't satisfied with the lack of options in the other poll...as were a fair amount of people...so I made another one to get a more accurate idea of what people on the forum think of the question b) I don't think polls on the forum show a diverse cross-section of the general SL community. I think they show a diverse cross-section of the part of the SL community that frequents the forums. c) the results so far prove the following... 1) there will be no epic wave of discrimination against those who choose not to use v-chat as the majority (if you don't agree with #b) of people will not be using it. If anything this coupled with the general attitude shown on the forums could possible end up with discrimination AGAINST voicers...but I find that unlikely as well. 2) v-chat will NOT crowd out typing as the primary form of communication in SL but will be treated as an extra option IN ADDITION TO regular typing. This would also preclude any possibility of massive discrimination against typers as just about everyone will still be a typer even if they use v-chat! Me included!! Why are these ideas so radical that I would be constantly attacked over it? It's not like I'm upset since no arguement posed to me has been rational...in fact most of them have essentially been personal attacks...plus my feelings don't get hurt very easily. 
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06-21-2007 17:12
From: Brenda Connolly You're still an ass though.....  hehe guilty as charged!!
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Najmah Handayani
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06-21-2007 17:14
From: SqueezeOne Pow You know what they say happens when you assume...only there will be no "me" for me! You may just want to sit this one out. I'll break it down one last time, though... a) I wasn't satisfied with the lack of options in the other poll...as were a fair amount of people...so I made another one to get a more accurate idea of what people on the forum think of the question b) I don't think polls on the forum show a diverse cross-section of the general SL community. I think they show a diverse cross-section of the part of the SL community that frequents the forums. c) the results so far prove the following... 1) there will be no epic wave of discrimination against those who choose not to use v-chat as the majority (if you don't agree with #b) of people will not be using it. If anything this coupled with the general attitude shown on the forums could possible end up with discrimination AGAINST voicers...but I find that unlikely as well. 2) v-chat will NOT crowd out typing as the primary form of communication in SL but will be treated as an extra option IN ADDITION TO regular typing. This would also preclude any possibility of massive discrimination against typers as just about everyone will still be a typer even if they use v-chat! Me included!! Why are these ideas so radical that I would be constantly attacked over it? It's not like I'm upset since no arguement posed to me has been rational...in fact most of them have essentially been personal attacks...plus my feelings don't get hurt very easily.  welps you have been my amusement for the day... and as far arguments being posed and you simply ignore them calling them not rational is kinda obnoxious  have a good one bubba 
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06-21-2007 17:18
From: Najmah Handayani welps you have been my amusement for the day... and as far arguments being posed and you simply ignore them calling them not rational is kinda obnoxious  have a good one bubba  hehe I bet that sentence would have made sense if you had said it in voice!  Anyway, time to go home for me!! /me bows and blows kisses as he walks backwards into the darkness behind the curtain.
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Suzi Sohmers
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06-21-2007 17:26
/me reluctantly raises her head, having been awakened once again by the children shouting...
"Will you guys either grow up or shut up!"
Wish I hadn't bothered to vote now, can I take it back?
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Raudf Fox
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06-21-2007 19:04
I voted rarely. I just can't see using it that extensively. Might if I can learn another language, but not much else. Plus, I have this horrible Southern accent, which makes insulting someone sound so sweeeeet.
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06-21-2007 19:29
From: Alex Fitzsimmons Based on the latest poll results, you won't ever have to hear the overwhelming majority talk... From: someone Never. It will be permenantly disabled on my browser – 56 – 50.45% ummm…I must of missed that day in statistics class but when was 50% an overwhelming majority…oh unless you’re a Republican  I see it as 50% will be using voice in SL. BTW I voted 30%-50% but it will probably be less. It’s just that I don’t believe 25% constitutes “Rarely” DK
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