Want to feel good about SL again?

Actually, I come down on the side of individual rights to, and would do so to the point of anarchy if I thought anarchy could work. The answer to ad farms near your property is - huge prims, screening out the ads at low prim cost and nicely textured for yourself and your real neighbors and passers-through (matching the local sky is a good thought). They can be found as freebies on SLX and I'm sure elsewhere, and are available now in many shapes and sizes.

There are a lot of risks assosciated with huge prims. Also they make things laggy in the neighborhood.

Of course there are some who could care less, as it's your land, so screw everyone else.

"so it's all been swept away now, leaving only the film behind."

That's the sad thing about SL sometimes. I see the video, and I want to explore. But it's all gone now, lost like tears int he rain.

Mari

Has anybody personally experienced these problems with big prims used as screens against ad farms or other ugliness? And can you distinguish any lag they might casue from the lag the ad farms cause?

I had some mainland and used a couple of giant prims for screens. Lot's of trouble rezzing objects, feet sinking into ground and various other oddities ensued until I removed them.

Then a neighbor built a large structure out of numerous giant prims and much craziness ensued, including massive lag and occassionaly flying into the sky for no reason

I moved.

They burnt the age play and casino books, now lets hope they burn something non of us like like ad farms.

The video Raymond Posted to us is just gorgeous, and so incredibly well done. Thank You for showing us.

yvw...It's almost as gorgeous as you...

Amazing video.... but I was waiting for it to get to the end and then an ad farm suddenly appear in the middle and ruin it all!

Changing to a 512-sq.m minimum parcel size would alter businesses which have nothing to do with ad farms. The solution would affect people with small parcels who's only "crime" is that they have a small parcel.

Here's an example:
http://secondlife.com/whatis/explore.php

While knocking down the ad farms is it okay to knock down other businesses or small homes, too? How much collateral damage is okay? If we all don't like one house in a village should we burn the village? Should we burn the village next to that village?

From my perspective, person's such as the OP want to contort SL to their own personal vision. It should only contain the things they like and the things they approve of. There's no wiggle room. They wish to apply an absolute formed from their own tastes when one does not exist. Not all small businesses on small parcels are bad, but we must do away with all small parcels anyway. It does not matter if they broke no guidelines or terms of service. It does not matter how such places exist within the framework of the community. It does not matter if they simply wish to exercise their right to do what they wish with their own land.

Let's put a human face on it, shall we? Here's my home: Mare (95, 7, 56)
It's on a 320-sq.meter parcel. It encroaches on no one else. If someone doesn't like me should they be able to set it on fire? If someone doesn't like someone else should they be able to set it on fire while trying to get to that other person? What if someone doesn't like the appearance of my house? Is that enough of an excuse to take my parcel away?

The OP does not feel the Terms of Service apply to him. If he doesn't like what's on someone else's parcel he feels he has the right to grief it:



He even feels the person, and persons like them, own too much land. Maybe they have too much money in their pockets. He doesn't like the way they earned it. He doesn't like a particular class of person as they don't fit within his personal vision of how we should live our own lives.

I prefer to live my own Second Life within the Terms of Service and Community Standards. We all agreed to live within these guidelines.

(drifting off topic, but maybe answer a puzzle) Mega-prims are tricky to work with, but only cause lag if they're not phantom because then collision calculations become very slow near them--which probably means the calculations themselves are a bit brain-damaged. A related phenomenon is that rezzing from inventory on top of them is nearly impossible--exactly like rezzing inside a hollow cube.

Some content creators don't like freebie stores as they compete against their own content for sales and depress their earnings.

Let's burn the freebie stores, shall we? There's more sales-based stores than freebie stores. It's what a group of people who don't own the freebie stores want and that makes it okay. It's gotten in their way though it has violated no rules. Let's burn it.

Cool. Thanks. So, build them phantom and texture them?

And I wish the build the OP showed us could be resurrected. Real art.

be forewarned that textures can look a little strange on the big prims. Also stick to 20x20's. they are safer to work with. Use the thin ones rather than cubes because you can't resize them.

In a word, E.D: balderdash.

You can raise straw men and knock 'em down real good. We're not talking about burning down your miserable little cottage, we're talking about ad farms that pollute everyone's view.

There are rules about this in the real world, you know. It's not unreasonable to hope that someday there might be similar restrictions on visual blight in Second Life.

For those who say, "If you don't like the ad farms, move"...a lot of people are doing just that. Notice how popular private islands are lately? Hey, maybe LL will notice, if nobody comes to the mainland anymore!

And, frankly, if setting the minimum land parcel size to 512 m2 would be a deterrent to the ad proliferation, then yes, I think that requiring you (and other small parcel owners) to buy a few more square meters would be an acceptable cost. But have no fear, I suspect such cases would be grandfathered.

We're talking about parcel owners who have not violated the Terms of Service. If their ad object encroaches upon your space or emits landmarks everywhere or shrieks constantly it's violated the Community Standards and/or the Terms of Service.

Thank you for deciding what you'd like to do with the land you don't own. It's very big of you.

We want to stop ads from proliferating so let's set a minimum parcel-size. Now take a look at the Map. Drill down. See the ads? Parcels and sims owned by people who have arranged prims to advertise to those looking at the Map. Shall we seize an entire sims, too?

There's no grandfathering in Second Life. The rules are the rules are the rules and it's up to the Lindens to change them.

how did this thread go from a beautiful 3d creation of a beautiful piece of art (which sadly from what I now understand is no longer in world)

to

a debate on TOS ad farms and all that other crap?

please show us more of the beauty and awesome creations in SL and keep the other crap in im's or even better, out of here completely.

by the way what does "IBTL" mean (I know I am gonna feel stupid when someone tells me LOL)

In Before The Lock

we could chage it to

PBSS

I think

Ever been to a concert and some guy behind you won't shut up?

Today I'm all starry starry smiles. Ignore list is my friend.

Yes. And there's a guy in front of me with a big head. However, from what I understand it's okay for me to saw their head off. They even said so.

It's blocking my view of the stage.

ahh in before the lock

ok I do not feel stupid, I would not have gotten that one LOL

anyone have a list of acronyms

Psst *nudges raymond* see this? see me? *jumps up and down*

hehe just making sure I am not being ignored

ok what would PBSS be?

Posted Before Strife Sees.

ROFL PBSS cute

I like IBTL though
both work

hehe

Shame that a troll would cause this thread to be locked but I'm all for it at this point. Please share Robbie's link with all your friends.